Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader

[Parliament10]

With that now being the case I can see the next move being potentially to expand the NBA Draft maybe one more round for draft and stash purposes.

Is a 3rd round really necessary though? Like nearly half the guys who get taken in the 2nd round get stashed already

Fair point but they are expanding the roster from15 to 17 spots. And if every team has their own minor league team to fill I can see the rationale. Not saying that we should expect it per se. Just that I wouldn't be surprised if they chose to.

They Definitely should do it, at some point.
Smitty said that they will eventually go to 5 x Two-Ways slots; once we get 1-to-1 with D-League teams.

[Froob]

Bucks board has quite the hard on for Zizic, there are several trades over there where they try to poach Zizic from us. Kid should be borderline untouchable right now IMO unless it's in a package for a star

Saw that someone thought we should trade 2018 Brooklyn pick and Jaylen for LaMarcus Aldridge lol. We have a great core going forward if Zizic is this good.

[Gant]

There's an encouraging Abdel Nader article by Adam Himmelsbach in the Globe:

“I think Abdel really made an impression on a lot of people with what he did in summer league,” (Celtics director of player evaluation) Dave Lewin said. “We were really happy with how he played and how he made the most of his opportunity, and I think our fans that care enough to watch summer league carefully saw some exciting stuff from him, so I’m not surprised a lot of people have followed him now.”

Nader’s shooting and athleticism were never in doubt, but Lewin said the Celtics have been focused on improving his defense. He said that over the past month, there has been noticeable progress in that area.

“He’s shown consistency and focus and effort, having awareness on and off the ball, where your man is, where the ball is, what sort of screen or action is coming,” Lewin said. “He’s staying in his stance, staying focused and not taking any plays off defensively.

“From a physical standpoint, he can do it all. He can guard the perimeter, guard the interior, change shots with his length.”

More here, including an explanation of exactly how a domestic stash works:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/02/14/abdel-nader-will-get-his-star-turn-this-weekend-too/qXCX8p2RX5ccf8w779YAsI/story.html

[Patsfan1081]

Bucks board has quite the hard on for Zizic, there are several trades over there where they try to poach Zizic from us. Kid should be borderline untouchable right now IMO unless it's in a package for a star

Saw that someone thought we should trade 2018 Brooklyn pick and Jaylen for LaMarcus Aldridge lol. We have a great core going forward if Zizic is this good.

That's what happens with most young players. Opposing fans also attempt to use terrible logic as to way Boston would trade their young players for cheap. "They want to compete know, he isn't seeing big minutes or he can't even beat out, they already have_____ at that position" are some of the reasons I see horrible lopsided deals around Brown or the Brooklyn picks. I hope Danny doesn't even think about moving Zizic though, he's cut from the same cloth as Smart and Crowder.

[Homerclease]

Bucks board has quite the hard on for Zizic, there are several trades over there where they try to poach Zizic from us. Kid should be borderline untouchable right now IMO unless it's in a package for a star

Saw that someone thought we should trade 2018 Brooklyn pick and Jaylen for LaMarcus Aldridge lol. We have a great core going forward if Zizic is this good.

That's what happens with most young players. Opposing fans also attempt to use terrible logic as to way Boston would trade their young players for cheap. "They want to compete know, he isn't seeing big minutes or he can't even beat out, they already have_____ at that position" are some of the reasons I see horrible lopsided deals around Brown or the Brooklyn picks. I hope Danny doesn't even think about moving Zizic though, he's cut from the same cloth as Smart and Crowder.

The win now one is the one I see the most. People seem to think this team is screwed once they have to pay Thomas and Bradley. Cap room doesn't matter if you nail 3x top 5 picks in a row, just go over the cap to resign your own men

[Froob]

Saw that someone thought we should trade 2018 Brooklyn pick and Jaylen for LaMarcus Aldridge lol. We have a great core going forward if Zizic is this good.

That's what happens with most young players. Opposing fans also attempt to use terrible logic as to way Boston would trade their young players for cheap. "They want to compete know, he isn't seeing big minutes or he can't even beat out, they already have_____ at that position" are some of the reasons I see horrible lopsided deals around Brown or the Brooklyn picks. I hope Danny doesn't even think about moving Zizic though, he's cut from the same cloth as Smart and Crowder.

The win now one is the one I see the most. People seem to think this team is screwed once they have to pay Thomas and Bradley. Cap room doesn't matter if you nail 3x top 5 picks in a row, just go over the cap to resign your own men

Exactly, you trade for Butler and don't get anywhere and it's extremely depressing to know we had the young capital...

[Elrod is Back]

There's an encouraging Abdel Nader article by Adam Himmelsbach in the Globe:

“I think Abdel really made an impression on a lot of people with what he did in summer league,” (Celtics director of player evaluation) Dave Lewin said. “We were really happy with how he played and how he made the most of his opportunity, and I think our fans that care enough to watch summer league carefully saw some exciting stuff from him, so I’m not surprised a lot of people have followed him now.”

Nader’s shooting and athleticism were never in doubt, but Lewin said the Celtics have been focused on improving his defense. He said that over the past month, there has been noticeable progress in that area.

“He’s shown consistency and focus and effort, having awareness on and off the ball, where your man is, where the ball is, what sort of screen or action is coming,” Lewin said. “He’s staying in his stance, staying focused and not taking any plays off defensively.

“From a physical standpoint, he can do it all. He can guard the perimeter, guard the interior, change shots with his length.”

More here, including an explanation of exactly how a domestic stash works:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/02/14/abdel-nader-will-get-his-star-turn-this-weekend-too/qXCX8p2RX5ccf8w779YAsI/story.html

I have watched several Red Claw games online and Nader is pretty impressive, though I suspect the odds are he will never have much of an NBA career. It is going to be critical to see how he plays with better teammates. He could really thrive and advance in an offense where there is ball movement and a defense where effort is demanded and rewarded. So I guess I would say the jury is out until we see him in a few Cs games alongside real NBA caliber players. He certainly has the athleticism and tools to play in the NBA.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

need to catch up on my zizic film any new links

[sam_I_am]

There's an encouraging Abdel Nader article by Adam Himmelsbach in the Globe:

“I think Abdel really made an impression on a lot of people with what he did in summer league,” (Celtics director of player evaluation) Dave Lewin said. “We were really happy with how he played and how he made the most of his opportunity, and I think our fans that care enough to watch summer league carefully saw some exciting stuff from him, so I’m not surprised a lot of people have followed him now.”

Nader’s shooting and athleticism were never in doubt, but Lewin said the Celtics have been focused on improving his defense. He said that over the past month, there has been noticeable progress in that area.

“He’s shown consistency and focus and effort, having awareness on and off the ball, where your man is, where the ball is, what sort of screen or action is coming,” Lewin said. “He’s staying in his stance, staying focused and not taking any plays off defensively.

“From a physical standpoint, he can do it all. He can guard the perimeter, guard the interior, change shots with his length.”

More here, including an explanation of exactly how a domestic stash works:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/02/14/abdel-nader-will-get-his-star-turn-this-weekend-too/qXCX8p2RX5ccf8w779YAsI/story.html

I have watched several Red Claw games online and Nader is pretty impressive, though I suspect the odds are he will never have much of an NBA career. It is going to be critical to see how he plays with better teammates. He could really thrive and advance in an offense where there is ball movement and a defense where effort is demanded and rewarded. So I guess I would say the jury is out until we see him in a few Cs games alongside real NBA caliber players. He certainly has the athleticism and tools to play in the NBA.

It's so hard to judge but I think he is a lot better and has a lot more tools than Babb who was a similar D-leaguer that kicked around and had a few 10 day gigs in NBA. If Nader can knock down 3 and finish at the rim in the big boy league - a big if - I think he could be a surprise. He has elite size and length for an NBA SG.

[Parliament10]

There's an encouraging Abdel Nader article by Adam Himmelsbach in the Globe:





More here, including an explanation of exactly how a domestic stash works:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2017/02/14/abdel-nader-will-get-his-star-turn-this-weekend-too/qXCX8p2RX5ccf8w779YAsI/story.html

I have watched several Red Claw games online and Nader is pretty impressive, though I suspect the odds are he will never have much of an NBA career. It is going to be critical to see how he plays with better teammates. He could really thrive and advance in an offense where there is ball movement and a defense where effort is demanded and rewarded. So I guess I would say the jury is out until we see him in a few Cs games alongside real NBA caliber players. He certainly has the athleticism and tools to play in the NBA.

It's so hard to judge but I think he is a lot better and has a lot more tools than Babb who was a similar D-leaguer that kicked around and had a few 10 day gigs in NBA. If Nader can knock down 3 and finish at the rim in the big boy league - a big if - I think he could be a surprise. He has elite size and length for an NBA SG.

Take it for what you want. But, Nader made the D-League All-Stars.
Gotta be something to him.

He did pretty well in this past Summer League. And, we'll see him again, in the next Summer League.
If we end up dropping down to 14 players (by Trade or Waive), then we may get a better look at him, on some 10-Days.

[sam_I_am]

^^^I agree. I was high on Nader from first summer league game. Honestly think he showed more than Jaylen Brown in SL - of course he is older and more experienced but even athletically he didn't seem that far off from the #3 pick either.

[bobbeaver]

Bucks board has quite the hard on for Zizic, there are several trades over there where they try to poach Zizic from us. Kid should be borderline untouchable right now IMO unless it's in a package for a star

Saw that someone thought we should trade 2018 Brooklyn pick and Jaylen for LaMarcus Aldridge lol. We have a great core going forward if Zizic is this good.

That's what happens with most young players. Opposing fans also attempt to use terrible logic as to way Boston would trade their young players for cheap. "They want to compete know, he isn't seeing big minutes or he can't even beat out, they already have_____ at that position" are some of the reasons I see horrible lopsided deals around Brown or the Brooklyn picks. I hope Danny doesn't even think about moving Zizic though, he's cut from the same cloth as Smart and Crowder.

Im just gonna chime in for a bit for extra info about Zizics' plays in Darussafaka in the few months he has played. And these are Euroleague games:
1st in offensive rebound (3.3 ppg)
3rd in rebounds ppg (7.6)
4th in in shot %
11th in Player Index Rating although he doesnt qualifie since he has played to few games yet

And If you watched the games you will see he is getting these numbers and double doubles as a low usage player. He doesnt get too many touches, probably 4th option on offense. Especially since they play hero ball most of the time.
But what is more striking to me is that he has translated his game seamlessly from the ABA league to Turkish and Euroleague. Even though its a major jump in quality of opponents. If he had more touches i believe he would be getting similar numbers as in ABA league.
Not to say he hasnt got holes in his game (guy is a 20year old Center ffs). He needs to work even more on his body and running technique, more importantly his jumper {even though when he had opportunity he did well making them and his free throw pct is high) and even more importantly back to the basket techniques (he has made strides but not good enough for NBA imo). He needs to be very versatile way i think he can be. But i think his style of play in general will translate well into the NBA. Hope coaches will use him the right way.

[Gant]

Tomek Kordylewski :
(Yabusele) with great game (30 points and 16 rebounds) but Sharks lost 104-107 to Ducks and slipped to 2nd place in CBA standings.

[FlatearthZorro]

Tomek Kordylewski :
(Yabusele) with great game (30 points and 16 rebounds) but Sharks lost 104-107 to Ducks and slipped to 2nd place in CBA standings.

Damn man, Yabu has been doing work in China . Can't wait to see him in green and white.

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Wow. 16 Rebounds.
Damn. We could use that.

[shackles10]

In the words of LL Cool J... Yabusele got a big ole butt!

[celticgreenie]

I know Juan Hernangomez went one pick before Yabu, but too bad he didn't slip to us. His energy and the flashes he shown this year with then Nuggets suggest that when all is said and done, there will be a big difference between the #15 vs. #16 pick in last year draft. Plus, he was willing to be stashed overseas: http://bsndenver.com/denver-nuggets-draft-pick-juan-hernangomez-open-to-being-stashed-in-europe-next-season/

[Elrod is Back]

Before we get too bummed out about missing Juancho by one pick in the 2016 draft, let's keep an open mind about the Dancing Bear. In yesterday's China league game Guerschon had another monster game: 33 minutes, 19 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks, only 1 turnover. http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/China/2017/0217_1950_15106.asp

I know, its China, but all he can do is dominate wherever he plays. And he is taking names and kicking ass.

Let's temper our expectations and be patient with Yabusele. Look at how many great players need two or three or four NBA seasons before they really emerge: IT, Butler, Draymond. That will certainly be the case with Jaylen Brown, if he becomes a star. Yabs has physical tools that are exceedingly rare and plays with passion. I really want to see what a couple of years under Brad's tutelage will produce.

Both he and Zizic are likely going to be fan favorites at the very least, with their passionate and physical play.

[Homerclease]

I know Juan Hernangomez went one pick before Yabu, but too bad he didn't slip to us. His energy and the flashes he shown this year with then Nuggets suggest that when all is said and done, there will be a big difference between the #15 vs. #16 pick in last year draft. Plus, he was willing to be stashed overseas: http://bsndenver.com/denver-nuggets-draft-pick-juan-hernangomez-open-to-being-stashed-in-europe-next-season/

He was our guy at 16 and the nuggets snatched him from us, needing a stash guy Ainge was forced to take yabusele there. Hope he works out but even our own GM wanted Hernangomez first