The (Quintessential) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 5.0)

Post #661 » by **Froob** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:45 am

CrowderKeg wrote:Not sure how reliable this dude is, but.. thread:

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Interesting, wonder what teams would be in the mix for him. Maybe we offer the 2017 pick + Crowder and/or Bradley, get him under a new deal under the new CBA, use the 2018 pick to get a big. PG13 doesn't really make us a contender though so I dunno if we want to pay a big price for him. Maybe Jaylen really grows in a year or two and him and PG13 torch the league.

ConstableGeneva · Post #662 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:46 am

Green89 wrote:
bceltic55 wrote:Tucker would be a perfect fit as the back up SF with Brown as the back up SG.

And we all know what happened the last time we acquired a PJ late in the season, after an all star game in New Orleans.

Are we trading for Sam Dekker next? CHAMPIONSHIP!!

Post #663 » by **165bows** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:55 am

Froob wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Not sure how reliable this dude is, but.. thread:

Read on Twitter

Interesting, wonder what teams would be in the mix for him. Maybe we offer the 2017 pick + Crowder and/or Bradley, get him under a new deal under the new CBA, use the 2018 pick to get a big. PG13 doesn't really make us a contender though so I dunno if we want to pay a big price for him. Maybe Jaylen really grows in a year or two and him and PG13 torch the league.

The more I think about it, the more it
makes sense that the goal is to trade a BRK pick and only one of Bradley/Crowder for a top player like George or Butler.

Giving up more than that is the obvious move and also the total fool's move.

The goal IMO is to trade a pick and Bradley for a wing, and then sign Hayward via s/t.

Anything else added to that is a lateral move that makes the team older while not substantially better.

Post #664 » by **Froob** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:57 am

165bows wrote:
Froob wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Not sure how reliable this dude is, but.. thread:

Read on Twitter

Interesting, wonder what teams would be in the mix for him. Maybe we offer the 2017 pick + Crowder and/or Bradley, get him under a new deal under the new CBA, use the 2018 pick to get a big. PG13 doesn't really make us a contender though so I dunno if we want to pay a big price for him. Maybe Jaylen really grows in a year or two and him and PG13 torch the league.

The more I think about it, the more it
makes sense that the goal is to trade a BRK pick and only one of Bradley/Crowder for a top player like George or Butler.

Giving up more than that is the obvious move and also the total fool's move.

The goal IMO is to trade a pick and Bradley for a wing, and then sign Hayward via s/t.

Anything else added to that is a lateral move that makes the team older while not substantially better.

I dunno how we'd develop Jaylen if we add Hayward and a wing. This kid should be really really good.

klemen4 · Post #665 » by **klemen4** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:58 am

It's a perfect situation...3 All-stars may be available. We put the best offer on table and use teams as leverage.

Going for Butler and Cousins with same package and use bulls to make Sacramento blink.

We need to get Cousins, this may be the last chance.

We need a big star, Butler does not make us a contender, cousins does.

Time to overpay is now!!!

chrisab123 · Post #666 » by **chrisab123** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:12 am

klemen4 wrote:It's a perfect situation...3 All-stars may be available. We put the best offer on table and use teams as leverage.

Going for Butler and Cousins with same package and use bulls to make Sacramento blink.

We need to get Cousins, this may be the last chance.

We need a big star, Butler does not make us a contender, cousins does.

Time to overpay is now!!!

Ainge will never overpay for anyone. It doesn't matter if it's Bird in his prime or DMC or Butler. Danny Ainge will not make a trade that he has any chance of losing. But at the same time it's almost midnight in regards to the Celtics assets + cap room. Unless of course they want to trade Bradley and IT next year. Then it buys another year at maximum.

Post #667 » by **165bows** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:16 am

Froob wrote:
165bows wrote:
Froob wrote:Interesting, wonder what teams would be in the mix for him. Maybe we offer the 2017 pick + Crowder and/or Bradley, get him under a new deal under the new CBA, use the 2018 pick to get a big. PG13 doesn't really make us a contender though so I dunno if we want to pay a big price for him. Maybe Jaylen really grows in a year or two and him and PG13 torch the league.

The more I think about it, the more it
makes sense that the goal is to trade a BRK pick and only one of Bradley/Crowder for a top player like George or Butler.

Giving up more than that is the obvious move and also the total fool's move.

The goal IMO is to trade a pick and Bradley for a wing, and then sign Hayward via s/t.

Anything else added to that is a lateral move that makes the team older while not substantially better.

I dunno how we'd develop Jaylen if we add Hayward and a wing. This kid should be really really good.

Pretty sure that is the future of the game right now - a PG, a big man, and a bunch of guys that are 6'6"-6'9" and can do everything.

bs_and_cs · Post #668 » by **bs_and_cs** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:18 am

If Cousins' is actually available, and he isn't priority #1, Ainge is making a huge mistake.

klemen4 · Post #669 » by **klemen4** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:18 am

Cousins is the best C in the league...we should overpay regardless of his character.

We have enough trade assets to do that.

Celts17Pride · Post #670 » by **Celts17Pride** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:19 am

Bohemian wrote:

Read on Twitter

Seriously there is nothing going on here. This was leaked so New Orleans management can go to Anthony Davis and say to him we are really trying hard to get you another star. Have faith we are really working hard for you.

Nothing more.

BleedGreen1989 · Post #671 » by **BleedGreen1989** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:20 am

Star wing>Star center

klemen4 · Post #672 » by **klemen4** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:27 am

Haha...What a joke offer

We can beat that 3 times and still have a better package left

Smog · Post #673 » by **Smog** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:32 am

klemen4 wrote:Cousins is the best C in the league...we should overpay regardless of his character.

We have enough trade assets to do that.

We shouldn't consider his character even though he's never sniffed a winning season or the playoffs, and has gotten, what, four coaches fired? And we shouldn't consider it even though the Celtics' #1 strength is their chemistry?

BakersDozen · Post #674 » by **BakersDozen** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:33 am

Brooklyn 17 / memphis pick/smart/ Amir for Boogie

Brooklyn 18/lac pick/ Bos 2018 first/Bradley/Zeller for Butler

Thomas/rozier
Butler/jaylen
Crowder/Green
Horford/Jonas
Cousins/KO

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Brad is God · Post #675 » by **Brad is God** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:35 am

Cousins wants to win. That's why he gets mad. He is competitive. If he comes here and starts to win his whole attitude will probably change. Also him and IT are quite close. Seems like a match made in heaven and he is my #1 choice if available for the C's to target at all costs.

chrisab123 · Post #676 » by **chrisab123** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:35 am

Smog wrote:
klemen4 wrote:Cousins is the best C in the league...we should overpay regardless of his character.

We have enough trade assets to do that.

We shouldn't consider his character even though he's never sniffed a winning season or the playoffs, and has gotten, what, four coaches fired? And we shouldn't consider it even though the Celtics' #1 strength is their chemistry?

To be fair Mike Malone wasn't on Cousins. That was Vivek and his asinine 4 on 5 ball he wanted to play. Karl got himself canned. So then which two coaches are left? No one really memorable. Kings are a cluster of an organization.

klemen4 · Post #677 » by **klemen4** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:43 am

Ab + brk 17 should be base for any deal for Butler, Cousins or George.

Than we can add 2 more non brk first.

Than it depends:

For Cousins I would be willing to add more.

leper-con · Post #678 » by **leper-con** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:47 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
Bohemian wrote:

Read on Twitter

Seriously there is nothing going on here. This was leaked so New Orleans management can go to Anthony Davis and say to him we are really trying hard to get you another star. Have faith we are really working hard for you.

Nothing more.

More likely leaked by Divac to get teams to up the anti.

Celts17Pride · Post #679 » by **Celts17Pride** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:58 am

klemen4 wrote:Ab + brk 17 should be base for any deal for Butler, Cousins or George.

Than we can add 2 more non brk first.

Than it depends:

For Cousins I would be willing to add more.

More likely Smart, Brown or Crowder. Teams are not giving up their star for a guy that can leave in a year as an UFA (Bradley)

Andrew McCeltic · Post #680 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:04 am

Bohemian wrote:

Read on Twitter

Very strange, but - Kings have been rumored to really want a point guard from this draft - probably Fultz or Ntilikina. That trade would give them 1-2 lotto picks and increase the value of their own.