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Post#661 » by TheMartian » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:11 pm

flintsky21 wrote:
mzepol wrote:I like Wiliams' toughness and defensive awareness despite his size.

I like Carsen Edwards' range and his bulldoggish style of play. Looks to be tough as well.

Need to see more of Langford and Waters though.

Why does Danny like undersized players?

Most undersized players play with a chip on their shoulder and are highly motivated. I can see that in both Williams and Edwards already.

I'm not so sure about Langford but people are saying he loves attacking the rim and getting to the line, which definitely fills a huge need in this team. Williams gives the team some semblance of post-scoring. Edwards is our new Larkin, a player I really liked.

It may not be a bad draft after all.


Yeah, I see where the Larkin comparisons come from. Aggressive, and can score in spurts. Larkin was one player the Celtics really missed last season.

Not too sure on the Langford pick though. He seemed unhappy being drafted by the Celtics. Does he have a laid back personality?
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Post#662 » by Darth Celtic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:26 pm

mzepol wrote:
flintsky21 wrote:
mzepol wrote:I like Wiliams' toughness and defensive awareness despite his size.

I like Carsen Edwards' range and his bulldoggish style of play. Looks to be tough as well.

Need to see more of Langford and Waters though.

Why does Danny like undersized players?

Most undersized players play with a chip on their shoulder and are highly motivated. I can see that in both Williams and Edwards already.

I'm not so sure about Langford but people are saying he loves attacking the rim and getting to the line, which definitely fills a huge need in this team. Williams gives the team some semblance of post-scoring. Edwards is our new Larkin, a player I really liked.

It may not be a bad draft after all.


Yeah, I see where the Larkin comparisons come from. Aggressive, and can score in spurts. Larkin was one player the Celtics really missed last season.

Not too sure on the Langford pick though. He seemed unhappy being drafted by the Celtics. Does he have a laid back personality?

Way laid back from what I heard, but not playing.
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Post#663 » by SLCceltic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:27 pm

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I predict not. Williams is the opposite of fragile. He is very strong, and has a very well rounded game. He was a two-time first team All-SEC selection (unanimous selection both times), and was the SEC player of the year last year. He has a very high basketball IQ, and plays bigger than his size due to his strength and wingspan (6'10"). Watch some video of him. I think you will be impressed. Also, here is a detailed scouting report:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/20/grant-williams-scouting-report/

https://www.apnews.com/c8361c1300d4425d905b4df826478c08

He sounds like a shorter grittier Al Horford ....I'm just fine with this pick !
He's older and seems mature for age even ....has a ton of skill &bbIQ to facilitate team basketball.

I'm envisioning an in shape & head on straight Jared Sullinger with elite bbIQ ... he's more polished than the other rookies and will contribute right away as a bench scorer/facilitator ...he could even play a HUGE roll for us this season if major trade goes down and we are limited in signing other FAs
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Post#664 » by Festurs » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:30 pm

So assume that we keep Jaylen Brown. When we extend him don’t we lose this new found cap flexibility? With Tatum needing taken care of the year after Doesn’t this put the emphasis on adding talent now? Vucevic isn’t my first choice either but he is a good player and I like our supporting cast more then Orlando’s. 20-10 on a playoff team is pretty solid too.

I’m not an Ainge apologist, but it seems like people are tired of accumulating assets for the future but also don’t want to cash in on opportunities now if they’re not highly recognizable
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Post#665 » by SLCceltic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:31 pm

I like Romeo too ! Incredible upside and can shoot !! Adding another wing that needs to develop is the last thing I wanted to do ha
...but his talent and upside is undeniable and underrated :)
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Post#666 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:30 pm

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Shak_Celts wrote:waters... cbs loved IT4. I mean REALLY loved IT4. shorties. literally no team wins with guys that small but we seem obsessed.

Raptors won a championship with Fred Vanfleet this year. Edwards has better length and Waters length is comparable.



You knew what I meant before you typed that, right? You knew that I'm not talking about role players off the bench? I also wasn't saying there were no good short players, I'd be blind. What I meant, if it's true we are losing everybody, especially starting and back up PGs, why take two guys that have historically not done well in the NBA to fill those positions with? I get they are 2nd rounders and it doesn't matter too much (I like Edwards), just saying it's already a crap shoot, why take 2 of them when we already need length every season? I was okay with Edwards but we doubled down.

I'm gonna hope for them just like any other rookie no matter what and I know if they stick I'll enjoy it even more because it's always fun watching guys who have to bust through extraordinary shortcomings to succeed! Underdogs are who we all love!

I'm not as upset as that seemed, if I'm truly being honest, I'm a Cs player bandwagon fan! As soon as we picked them I was pretty much on board but it doesn't change how I feel about the history of the game. 2nd rounders already have tough sledding this makes it tougher on top of it.

Now sit back as I say they need more minutes and how great they will be if only they got a chance! I'm always hoping for a steal! I start stalking Cs players on social media which never helps my insisting that they are underused soon to be solid/great players! I follow any and EVERYONE that has something to do with our guys! Do you know how long I was on the Mickey train? How much I "knew" Wanamaker couldn't be worse?

That may seem fake but it isn't, I want the Cs to win so much I just see the good in every player while they are here (see their flaws magnified when they leave). Delusional may be closer to the truth because I can't help wearing green glasses! It's okay if I take them off for a minute here and there, isn't it?! ;)
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Post#667 » by TheMartian » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:35 pm

Could the Langford pick mean insurance at the SG position in case the Celtics brass decide to trade Jaylen Brown?
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Post#668 » by GreenFor3 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:48 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:
GreenFor3 wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:waters... cbs loved IT4. I mean REALLY loved IT4. shorties. literally no team wins with guys that small but we seem obsessed.

Raptors won a championship with Fred Vanfleet this year. Edwards has better length and Waters length is comparable.



You knew what I meant before you typed that, right? You knew that I'm not talking about role players off the bench? I also wasn't saying there were no good short players, I'd be blind. What I meant, if it's true we are losing everybody, especially starting and back up PGs, why take two guys that have historically not done well in the NBA to fill those positions with? I get they are 2nd rounders and it doesn't matter too much (I like Edwards), just saying it's already a crap shoot, why take 2 of them when we already need length every season? I was okay with Edwards but we doubled down.

I'm gonna hope for them just like any other rookie no matter what and I know if they stick I'll enjoy it even more because it's always fun watching guys who have to bust through extraordinary shortcomings to succeed! Underdogs are who we all love!

I'm not as upset as that seemed, if I'm truly being honest, I'm a Cs player bandwagon fan! As soon as we picked them I was pretty much on board but it doesn't change how I feel about the history of the game. 2nd rounders already have tough sledding this makes it tougher on top of it.

Now sit back as I say they need more minutes and how great they will be if only they got a chance! I'm always hoping for a steal! I start stalking Cs players on social media which never helps my insisting that they are underused soon to be solid/great players! I follow any and EVERYONE that has something to do with our guys! Do you know how long I was on the Mickey train? How much I "knew" Wanamaker couldn't be worse?

That may seem fake but it isn't, I want the Cs to win so much I just see the good in every player while they are here (see their flaws magnified when they leave). Delusional may be closer to the truth because I can't help wearing green glasses! It's okay if I take them off for a minute here and there, isn't it?! ;)


I thought since it was the 33rd pick you were talking about role players, that's the only reason I said anything. They're probably thinking that these guys are undervalued for their size and can get decent contributions out of second round picks. But just to be a little more annoying another example would be Chris Paul. Edwards has a 2 inch higher standing reach than Paul so it's not impossible for someone at that size to be an excellent NBA player. Kemba Walker is about the same size as well, and if Carson is anywhere close to Kemba then that's a phenomenal pick.

I will admit to being all on the Mickey train as well and I always love athletic bigs so I get your frustration for sure, but if they can get what they got out of Larkin from Waters they'd probably be happy and Larkin was even smaller. Wouldn't be a bad use of the 51st pick.
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Post#669 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:52 pm

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Half-Full wrote:
I predict not. Williams is the opposite of fragile. He is very strong, and has a very well rounded game. He was a two-time first team All-SEC selection (unanimous selection both times), and was the SEC player of the year last year. He has a very high basketball IQ, and plays bigger than his size due to his strength and wingspan (6'10"). Watch some video of him. I think you will be impressed. Also, here is a detailed scouting report:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/20/grant-williams-scouting-report/

https://www.apnews.com/c8361c1300d4425d905b4df826478c08

He sounds like a shorter grittier Al Horford ....I'm just fine with this pick !
He's older and seems mature for age even ....has a ton of skill &bbIQ to facilitate team basketball.

I'm envisioning an in shape & head on straight Jared Sullinger with elite bbIQ ... he's more polished than the other rookies and will contribute right away as a bench scorer/facilitator ...he could even play a HUGE roll for us this season if major trade goes down and we are limited in signing other FAs


Don’t think he’ll rebound like Sullinger, but otherwise that’s the hope, yeah.
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Post#670 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:55 pm

I'm doubling down on Romeo not being a CBS pick, he couldn't even workout until recently. We never even talked to him outside of the combine (I think it was)! This has nothing to do with how good the guy will be, it's about how shocked I am that we swung for the fences this time! Shocking the more I look into it and reflect. Everything about him (age included) seems contrary to what I have seen CBS go for! Not even Rob Williams strayed off from CBS' mold, even with the punctuality concerns, he could pass and defend (maybe hit 3s) things that are common place for bigs CBS likes.

It looks like we went and switched it up and I'm enjoying it a lot! Hop out the box if this is truly is a rebuild/retooling (I don't trust Wyc lol)! This seems like we are going for the fences on this pick instead of the usual safe and familiar! I know Bol Bol would probably be a bigger swing but if this guy works out it could be amazing too!

S/N-ish I think he'll be our starting PG in a few years, I think he is ripe for that role in the future, if he hits his potential he's a good match for the Jay's IMO! I know he's a SG but I see PG as endgame! Yeah my predictions are always wrong but I feel really good about this one after some sleep! :)
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Post#671 » by SLCceltic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:25 pm

Are we getting a MIL or CLE 1st rd pick from Phoenix in Baynes trade ??
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Post#672 » by Darth Celtic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:29 pm

SLCceltic wrote:Are we getting a MIL or CLE 1st rd pick from Phoenix in Baynes trade ??

Bucks I heard.

FYI, did you notice that all 3 of our first 3 picks got to the free throw line a bunch?

Another change in philosophy
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Post#673 » by SLCceltic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:42 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:
SLCceltic wrote:Are we getting a MIL or CLE 1st rd pick from Phoenix in Baynes trade ??

Bucks I heard.

FYI, did you notice that all 3 of our first 3 picks got to the free throw line a bunch?

Another change in philosophy


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Post#674 » by Half-Full » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:55 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:
GreenFor3 wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:waters... cbs loved IT4. I mean REALLY loved IT4. shorties. literally no team wins with guys that small but we seem obsessed.

Raptors won a championship with Fred Vanfleet this year. Edwards has better length and Waters length is comparable.



You knew what I meant before you typed that, right? You knew that I'm not talking about role players off the bench? I also wasn't saying there were no good short players, I'd be blind. What I meant, if it's true we are losing everybody, especially starting and back up PGs, why take two guys that have historically not done well in the NBA to fill those positions with? I get they are 2nd rounders and it doesn't matter too much (I like Edwards), just saying it's already a crap shoot, why take 2 of them when we already need length every season? I was okay with Edwards but we doubled down.

I'm gonna hope for them just like any other rookie no matter what and I know if they stick I'll enjoy it even more because it's always fun watching guys who have to bust through extraordinary shortcomings to succeed! Underdogs are who we all love!

I'm not as upset as that seemed, if I'm truly being honest, I'm a Cs player bandwagon fan! As soon as we picked them I was pretty much on board but it doesn't change how I feel about the history of the game. 2nd rounders already have tough sledding this makes it tougher on top of it.

Now sit back as I say they need more minutes and how great they will be if only they got a chance! I'm always hoping for a steal! I start stalking Cs players on social media which never helps my insisting that they are underused soon to be solid/great players! I follow any and EVERYONE that has something to do with our guys! Do you know how long I was on the Mickey train? How much I "knew" Wanamaker couldn't be worse?

That may seem fake but it isn't, I want the Cs to win so much I just see the good in every player while they are here (see their flaws magnified when they leave). Delusional may be closer to the truth because I can't help wearing green glasses! It's okay if I take them off for a minute here and there, isn't it?! ;)


I just watched the NCAA tournament highlights for Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters. What fun! Now, despite their fine performances, there is no guarantee that they will make the team, or turn out to be bonafide NBA players. They both seem very skilled, though, and I like what I saw. Looking forward to seeing what they can do. My advice? Go ahead and put your green glasses back on. That's a fan's prerogative, and they certainly make things look better. You know, makes the glass look half-full, not half-empty. :)
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Post#675 » by sam_I_am » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:52 pm

mzepol wrote:
flintsky21 wrote:
mzepol wrote:I like Wiliams' toughness and defensive awareness despite his size.

I like Carsen Edwards' range and his bulldoggish style of play. Looks to be tough as well.

Need to see more of Langford and Waters though.

Why does Danny like undersized players?

Most undersized players play with a chip on their shoulder and are highly motivated. I can see that in both Williams and Edwards already.

I'm not so sure about Langford but people are saying he loves attacking the rim and getting to the line, which definitely fills a huge need in this team. Williams gives the team some semblance of post-scoring. Edwards is our new Larkin, a player I really liked.

It may not be a bad draft after all.


Yeah, I see where the Larkin comparisons come from. Aggressive, and can score in spurts. Larkin was one player the Celtics really missed last season.

Not too sure on the Langford pick though. He seemed unhappy being drafted by the Celtics. Does he have a laid back personality?


As long as he is not the next Phil Pressey.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#676 » by radcot » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:25 pm

Didn’t know anything about any of our picks pre-draft, but after reading all the comments on the forum about them, I’m excited. Also figure we’ll be adding a couple of very good, roster-balancing vets via free agency and trade before the summer is over. We may not be a championship contender next year, but we will be competitive for sure - and a LOT more likable. Can’t wait. (But then my green goggles are as thick as they come.)
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Post#677 » by SparringPartner » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:27 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:
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flintsky21 wrote:Most undersized players play with a chip on their shoulder and are highly motivated. I can see that in both Williams and Edwards already.

I'm not so sure about Langford but people are saying he loves attacking the rim and getting to the line, which definitely fills a huge need in this team. Williams gives the team some semblance of post-scoring. Edwards is our new Larkin, a player I really liked.

It may not be a bad draft after all.


Yeah, I see where the Larkin comparisons come from. Aggressive, and can score in spurts. Larkin was one player the Celtics really missed last season.

Not too sure on the Langford pick though. He seemed unhappy being drafted by the Celtics. Does he have a laid back personality?

Way laid back from what I heard, but not playing.


Watch Langford's highlights against Duke and RJ Barrett. It'll probably make you feel better about Langford's potential.
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Post#678 » by SparringPartner » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:31 pm

sam_I_am wrote:As long as he is not the next Phil Pressey.


Tremont is the next Phil Pressey for sure. Carsen Edwards looks like a much better shooting, slightly smaller, and smarter Eric Bledsoe to me. Maybe that's a bad comparison then... :lol: Chauncey Billups worthy...
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Post#679 » by Darth Celtic » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:33 pm

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Yeah, I see where the Larkin comparisons come from. Aggressive, and can score in spurts. Larkin was one player the Celtics really missed last season.

Not too sure on the Langford pick though. He seemed unhappy being drafted by the Celtics. Does he have a laid back personality?

Way laid back from what I heard, but not playing.


Watch Langford's highlights against Duke and RJ Barrett. It'll probably make you feel better about Langford's potential.

Oh, i feel great about his potential. I was saying his personality type in life is laid bad, but he isn't laid back on the court. On offense he's an instigator, same as on man to man defense. He is only laid back in off the ball defense. That will have to change in our system if he ever wants to play. That's a lot of positive with few negatives.
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