Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[Celts17Pride]

I believe team will continue as is, but I am of the camp that without an upgrade at center this team will not go far in the playoffs.

Celtics are not operating on a 1 year plan. Celtics have one of the youngest teams in the NBA with one player (Wanamaker) over 30 years old. The Celtics are on pace now for 63 wins and have potentially three first round picks coming next year. Celtics young players are still developing. Celtics will also have the full MLE available next year. No need to do a band aid move for this year. Ainge is trying to make the Celtics contenders for the next 4-6 years.

[leper-con]

Here's a trade for a bench scorer. DereK Rose .\

Langford and Poreir ,maybe a pick and somethign esle if that isn't your fancy.

But this guy can bolster the bench and give us a real punch.

Try guarding Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Kemba and Rose on the perimeter. Death lineup.

[100proof]

I believe team will continue as is, but I am of the camp that without an upgrade at center this team will not go far in the playoffs.

Celtics are not operating on a 1 year plan. Celtics have one of the youngest teams in the NBA with one player (Wanamaker) over 30 years old. The Celtics are on pace now for 63 wins and have potentially three first round picks coming next year. Celtics young players are still developing. Celtics will also have the full MLE available next year. No need to do a band aid move for this year. Ainge is trying to make the Celtics contenders for the next 4-6 years.

I dont see any center on this team being a long or short term solution at center if this team hopes to make a consistent effort to win it all

[Celts17Pride]

Here's a trade for a bench scorer. DereK Rose .\

Langford and Poreir ,maybe a pick and somethign esle if that isn't your fancy.

But this guy can bolster the bench and give us a real punch.

Try guarding Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Kemba and Rose on the perimeter. Death lineup.

Langford is a scoring combo guard who could be deadly with Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Walker etc. Celtics shouldn't be looking to move Romeo. I don't believe they are willing to move him unless it's a package for a star.

[sully00]

I believe team will continue as is, but I am of the camp that without an upgrade at center this team will not go far in the playoffs.

Celtics are not operating on a 1 year plan. Celtics have one of the youngest teams in the NBA with one player (Wanamaker) over 30 years old. The Celtics are on pace now for 63 wins and have potentially three first round picks coming next year. Celtics young players are still developing. Celtics will also have the full MLE available next year. No need to do a band aid move for this year. Ainge is trying to make the Celtics contenders for the next 4-6 years.

I dont see any center on this team being a long or short term solution at center if this team hopes to make a consistent effort to win it all

While it makes sense as a concept right now you can't really hope to get more out of the 5 spot than this team is getting out of Theis and Kanter and while Williams' role has been more limited his production is through the roof when he does get in there. Even Poirier is effective in his minutes. You got 3 guys giving you a double double per 36, converting at a high percentage.

If I told I could get you a a guy who is 7th in Defensive Rating, 4th in Block %, and 3rd in Defensive Box +/- you would figure that is the guy your looking for right? That is Daniel Theis.

[Ernest]

And yet everyone was against the idea of signing Howard.

[yeahM8]

Weirdly I dreamt that kanter was traded last night.

I hope it’s not a premonition as I quite like my avatar

[zoyathedestroya]

I would just like to burn this trade ideas thread to the ground, if at all possible. They can ban me for arson for all I care lol.

The above comment really isn't helpful, Zoya. Just stay out of the thread if you don't have anything valuable to contribute. -- CG

[Celts17Pride]

The Celtics have 5 rookies (Langford, Edwards, G. Williams, Green and Poirier), 2 G Leaguers that are capable of playing in the NBA (Fall, Waters) and possibly 3-5 rookies next year with first and second round picks in 2020.

There will be a Celtics trade this year, it's a given. It just doesn't have to include any of the Celtics Top 5 players of (Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward or Smart).

[sully00]

And yet everyone was against the idea of signing Howard.

First off Howard isn't playing any better than Kanter. 2nd he played 9 games last year and is 34 years old. 3rd he is a notorious locker room cancer for a team that's locker room was in shambles.

Hard pass. Granted I was a hard pass on the guy when he was a DPY and MVP candidate.

[24istheLAW]

The Celtics have 5 rookies (Langford, Edwards, G. Williams, Green and Poirier), 2 G Leaguers that are capable of playing in the NBA (Fall, Waters) and possibly 3-5 rookies next year with first and second round picks in 2020.

There will be a Celtics trade this year, it's a given. It just doesn't have to include any of the Celtics Top 5 players of (Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward or Smart).

No one is trading for Green, Fall, or Poirier. Top 59-protected pick maybe. Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters are having pleasant starts to their careers, but realistically what does anyone want to trade for them?

The Celtics have ~9 players with trade value to bring back contributors. The top 5 guys you listed, plus Theis, Robert Williams, Langford and maybe Grant Williams. The rest are salary filler right now.

[Celts17Pride]

The Celtics have 5 rookies (Langford, Edwards, G. Williams, Green and Poirier), 2 G Leaguers that are capable of playing in the NBA (Fall, Waters) and possibly 3-5 rookies next year with first and second round picks in 2020.

There will be a Celtics trade this year, it's a given. It just doesn't have to include any of the Celtics Top 5 players of (Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward or Smart).

No one is trading for Green, Fall, or Poirier. Top 59-protected pick maybe. Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters are having pleasant starts to their careers, but realistically what does anyone want to trade for them?

The Celtics have ~9 players with trade value to bring back contributors. The top 5 guys you listed, plus Theis, Robert Williams, Langford and maybe Grant Williams. The rest are salary filler right now.

If you attach a first round pick to anybody they instantly become a trade piece. Poirier, Edwards, Green and Milwaukee or Boston 1st can easily bring back a contributing vet.

My guess is Poirier, Edwards, 1st round pick for Player X and the Celtics sign Waters from his 2 way contract has a decent chance of happening before the trade deadline.

[24istheLAW]

The Celtics have 5 rookies (Langford, Edwards, G. Williams, Green and Poirier), 2 G Leaguers that are capable of playing in the NBA (Fall, Waters) and possibly 3-5 rookies next year with first and second round picks in 2020.

There will be a Celtics trade this year, it's a given. It just doesn't have to include any of the Celtics Top 5 players of (Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward or Smart).

No one is trading for Green, Fall, or Poirier. Top 59-protected pick maybe. Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters are having pleasant starts to their careers, but realistically what does anyone want to trade for them?

The Celtics have ~9 players with trade value to bring back contributors. The top 5 guys you listed, plus Theis, Robert Williams, Langford and maybe Grant Williams. The rest are salary filler right now.

If you attach a first round pick to anybody they instantly become a trade piece. Poirier, Edwards, Green and Milwaukee or Boston 1st can easily bring back a contributing vet.

My guess is Poirier, Edwards, 1st round pick for Player X and the Celtics sign Waters from his 2 way contract has a decent chance of happening before the trade deadline.

Then the first round pick is the trade piece!

Who do you have in mind for that deal? Looks sensible to me.

[Celts17Pride]

No one is trading for Green, Fall, or Poirier. Top 59-protected pick maybe. Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters are having pleasant starts to their careers, but realistically what does anyone want to trade for them?

The Celtics have ~9 players with trade value to bring back contributors. The top 5 guys you listed, plus Theis, Robert Williams, Langford and maybe Grant Williams. The rest are salary filler right now.

If you attach a first round pick to anybody they instantly become a trade piece. Poirier, Edwards, Green and Milwaukee or Boston 1st can easily bring back a contributing vet.

My guess is Poirier, Edwards, 1st round pick for Player X and the Celtics sign Waters from his 2 way contract has a decent chance of happening before the trade deadline.

Then the first round pick is the trade piece!

Who do you have in mind for that deal? Looks sensible to me.

Honestly don't know, that's Ainge's job!

[Fencer reregistered]

Where would Bjelika rank in our center rotation if we had him?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Any interest in Thaddeus Young? He doesn't seem to be working out in Chicago, and he's had some luck against Giannis in the past. He'd basically be an upgrade over Ojeleye and Grant Williams. Also, he's owed $13.5 million next year, so they could use his bigger contract in a future trade...

Kanter, Poirier and Edwards for Young works in the trade checker. Although I'm not sure if Young > Kanter. It seems Boston can use Theis and R. Williams at center though..

[24istheLAW]

Any interest in Thaddeus Young? He doesn't seem to be working out in Chicago, and he's had some luck against Giannis in the past. He'd basically be an upgrade over Ojeleye and Grant Williams. Also, he's owed $13.5 million next year, so they could use his bigger contract in a future trade...

Kanter, Poirier and Edwards for Young works in the trade checker. Although I'm not sure if Young > Kanter. It seems Boston can use Theis and R. Williams at center though..

If he's shown aptitude at guarding Giannis, he's obviously useful. The $13.5M salary is appealing for trade purposes. Theis is a superior defender but inferior rebounder, and he can't punish teams for leaving him unaccounted for like Young. I'd consider it.

I think that offensive upside in an good enough defender/rebounder is what you're chasing. A lineup where all 5 guys can attack a closeout and score, with a big man on the court still.

The only problem with this idea is that Kanter is your token big guy. And Poirier is your other big dude even if he's just a body with fouls to give. SO you're committing to not having a guy who can bang with Embiid at all.

[Gomes3PC]

Some guys that fit at or below Kanter's contract and are playing for teams out of contention:

- Reggie Bullock
- Kevon Looney
- Cedi Osman
- Dillon Brooks
- Malik Monk
- Willy Hernangomez

I would call GSW and kick the tires on Looney. He clearly can contribute as a big in the brightest moments. Health is definitely a concern but set that aside, he fits a lot of what we would need at C to pair with Theis and Timelord.

[sully00]

The Celtics have 5 rookies (Langford, Edwards, G. Williams, Green and Poirier), 2 G Leaguers that are capable of playing in the NBA (Fall, Waters) and possibly 3-5 rookies next year with first and second round picks in 2020.

There will be a Celtics trade this year, it's a given. It just doesn't have to include any of the Celtics Top 5 players of (Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward or Smart).

I actually think it is less likely they make significant deal because of what you are pointing out. From a cap management standpoint lets say this season stays to current form and Boston wins 55 games and reaches the Conference Finals. Easy decision to bring back Hayward and then maxing Tatum. That means you can go back into next year with your top 8 under contract
Walker/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Theis
Smart/Kanter/R. Williams
Wannamaker is FA
Then Edwards/G.Williams/Ojeleye under contract that is 11 or your top 12.
Your going to want to keep all of these cheap NBA contracts around to fill out the those 13-15 roster spots especially if these are guys that are really 9-12 guys, guys that can play rotation mins.

While yes you have draft picks coming that is a position of strength not weakness and creates many more options at the draft and the offseason than it may at the deadline. I am looking through green tinted glasses at the moment but there is no reason not to.

I have little to no interest in trading Hayward or Walker at the moment. Ditto for Smart.

If you wouldn't trade Tatum or Brown for guys like Davis or Leonard safe to say they are not available for whatever else is on the market.

While I don't project the 3 headed monster of Theis/Kanter/R.Wililams to produce an All Star I think I am going to damn strapped to find an upgrade on the trade market for the combined salary of 11 mil dollars especially when that is essentially intact next year unless Kanter opts out.

[Celts17Pride]

The Celtics have 5 rookies (Langford, Edwards, G. Williams, Green and Poirier), 2 G Leaguers that are capable of playing in the NBA (Fall, Waters) and possibly 3-5 rookies next year with first and second round picks in 2020.

There will be a Celtics trade this year, it's a given. It just doesn't have to include any of the Celtics Top 5 players of (Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward or Smart).

I actually think it is less likely they make significant deal because of what you are pointing out. From a cap management standpoint lets say this season stays to current form and Boston wins 55 games and reaches the Conference Finals. Easy decision to bring back Hayward and then maxing Tatum. That means you can go back into next year with your top 8 under contract
Walker/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Theis
Smart/Kanter/R. Williams
Wannamaker is FA
Then Edwards/G.Williams/Ojeleye under contract that is 11 or your top 12.
Your going to want to keep all of these cheap NBA contracts around to fill out the those 13-15 roster spots especially if these are guys that are really 9-12 guys, guys that can play rotation mins.

While yes you have draft picks coming that is a position of strength not weakness and creates many more options at the draft and the offseason than it may at the deadline. I am looking through green tinted glasses at the moment but there is no reason not to.

I have little to no interest in trading Hayward or Walker at the moment. Ditto for Smart.

If you wouldn't trade Tatum or Brown for guys like Davis or Leonard safe to say they are not available for whatever else is on the market.

While I don't project the 3 headed monster of Theis/Kanter/R.Wililams to produce an All Star I think I am going to damn strapped to find an upgrade on the trade market for the combined salary of 11 mil dollars especially when that is essentially intact next year unless Kanter opts out.

The only trade I see the Celtics interested in doing is combining lesser pieces with the Milwaukee pick and getting a vet bench scorer or vet big man. Anything else would surprise me.