Buyout Thread: If Celtics get a player in buyout market, who would be cut?

[Bleeding Green]

Kieff Morris with the 10 pts on 8 shots, 4 fouls in 14 minutes, -9. Perfect Morris twin boxscore line. He fooled y'all man. Just running around not doing anything.

Followed up his 2-9, 5 pts, -13 really nicely. I look forward to his next net-negative line and the 25 that will follow. I would **** puke if Markieff Morris were taking 8-9 shots a game, putting up -9, -13 lines on the Celtics.

[djFan71]

Kieff Morris with the 10 pts on 8 shots, 4 fouls in 14 minutes, -9. Perfect Morris twin boxscore line. He fooled y'all man. Just running around not doing anything.

Followed up his 2-9, 5 pts, -13 really nicely. I look forward to his next net-negative line and the 25 that will follow. I would **** puke if Markieff Morris were taking 8-9 shots a game, putting up -9, -13 lines on the Celtics.

lol, he ain't perfect, but he'd be a nice option over Javonte or Semi. Some games Brad goes Grant, some Markieff, others more Romeo or Wanamaker.

[Darth Celtic]

Kieff Morris with the 10 pts on 8 shots, 4 fouls in 14 minutes, -9. Perfect Morris twin boxscore line. He fooled y'all man. Just running around not doing anything.

Followed up his 2-9, 5 pts, -13 really nicely. I look forward to his next net-negative line and the 25 that will follow. I would **** puke if Markieff Morris were taking 8-9 shots a game, putting up -9, -13 lines on the Celtics.

lol, he ain't perfect, but he'd be a nice option over Javonte or Semi. Some games Brad goes Grant, some Markieff, others more Romeo or Wanamaker.

at this point, semi is better for us. We can't afford 9 shots for semi/Morris. 5 of those should go to the 2 starters still in game or Kanter if miss matched.

Signing Bogut in case we play sixers in the playoffs is the only move I'd consider at this time.

[Bleeding Green]

Kieff Morris with the 10 pts on 8 shots, 4 fouls in 14 minutes, -9. Perfect Morris twin boxscore line. He fooled y'all man. Just running around not doing anything.

Followed up his 2-9, 5 pts, -13 really nicely. I look forward to his next net-negative line and the 25 that will follow. I would **** puke if Markieff Morris were taking 8-9 shots a game, putting up -9, -13 lines on the Celtics.

lol, he ain't perfect, but he'd be a nice option over Javonte or Semi. Some games Brad goes Grant, some Markieff, others more Romeo or Wanamaker.

Javonte Green doesn't even play, and by doing so is producing at a higher rate than Markieff Morris. Semi is terrible but at least he doesn't get in the way. And in games where the Celtics play a tight lineup, he doesn't even see the floor. The Morris twins are sooooooooo **** bad. They are the worst. Actively making teams worse and having this tough guy bravado that people think translates into defense. It doesn't.

[5InOfLouisville]

Speaking for myself only, I don't care about a bucket getter. We have 6-7 guys that can score double figures. And, I'm definitely not clamoring for buyouts. I was more about a trade for a bench vet at the deadline. I think Danny was always planning for NEXT year being the one and fixing things this summer - like you allude to. But, with Tatum exploding we're caught a little shorthanded for the playoffs when we have a better shot than people would have though even a few months ago - Danny included, unfortunately.

A 7th vet that you could trust to not f up even more than the current guys, and have even a modicum of offensive production, would have given us a more legit shot this year. Alas, that ship has sailed. Ultimately, even with that guy, we probably are still a year away, so getting Grant/Romeo/TL some playoff experience will be valuable. And it's fun to root for them. But, a vet would have been helpful.

I totally agree with all of that.

In my mind, id love to add a vet 3 and D guy, although no realistic options immediately come to mind.

And i imagine pretty much every playoff team would be happy to bring in a vet 3 and d presence too, so im not exactly dropping ground breaking gm strategy here.

But i think that’s exactly what we need

What Markieff gave the Lakers last night would have been perfect. As a buyout we had no shot, but you'd think DET would prefer a 2nd rounder and Javonte right about now...

On this young talented, hardworking team still riding the high of a chemistry 180 from last year, no morris brothers please.

Teams with morris brothers arent happy. Maybe not every team needs to be happy to win, but we are young, and i think maybe we do.

To be fair, i cant recall anybody specifically saying that they were bad teammates, but im pretty sure thats just because they dont want to get their asses beat.

[31to6]

I gave a shout out in our first 10 or so Victory Cigar threads this year to Marcus Morris and Terry Rozier for NOT being on this team. We have four premier scorers who can soak up all the shots we need. As fun as it was when Nate Robinson rode around on Big Baby that one time, that's not what this team needs from its bench.

[djFan71]

OK, so the Markieff hill ain't popular (didn't want to do the work to quote you all, so I didn't bother to do any...).

But we're talking low cost pickup, that didn't happen. He wasn't the only guy you could've gotten. That's the main point, but it'll be lost in Morris ptsd. That's fine.

That said, I'd still take him as an option for Brad to throw out there. He wouldn't have nearly the role of Marcus last year (and he's actually a different person). We're talking 10-15 minutes max depending on matchups.

I know he's gotta say nice things and all, but substitute Semi or Javonte as their acquisition and I don't think LeBron says the same stuff. And you know he signed off on it before it happened:

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[Captain_Caveman]

I understand rotation is shortened in playoffs but as of right now only have 6 reliable players in the rotation. Kanter is unplayable in some matchups and Wanamaker is a below average PG off the bench.

Can't go into the playoffs with only 6 guys you can count on. No scoring options off the bench and not a great omen for the playoffs the way bench was useless vs LAL and HOU recently.

Spoiler:

Wannamaker has a Raptor of -1.5 total overall, so saying he's below average might be true for average Raptor, but that's got a lot of superstars and starters in there. He has a WAR (wins over replacement) of positive .7.

I would bet you can't find any 3 string, or even 2nd string PG's with better Raptor or War.

GB was just talking about Sexton being good, and he's at like -3.8 and Garland -6 something. Which fits the eye test when they were ate alive by our 2 way player in the preseason.

Bulls White is -2.6.

Clippers Lou Williams is -.5 (let that sink in guys looking for a 6th man chucker to sign)

Jeff Teague is -3.3 for the hawks.

Rozier -2

Frank N -1.9 (lol, curm)

Rondo -3.4

Fultz -2.4

Brunson +2.1 (go mavs)

Ish smith -3.3

IT -7 (i think that's league worse)

I mean, it's not easy to find a 3rd string, even 2nd string better than Wannamaker. (marcus is a +3.3 in case you didn't look yourself)

Wanamaker's a great 3rd string, decent 2nd. But I think the point stands about really having 6 guys you can truly rely upon. I don't think any of the buyout flotsam would help - Marvin Williams would have, Harkless if he'd got bought out, but nobody that was actually available to us. But, the bench is a definite concern for the playoffs.

We're really just hoping that one/two of the Kanter/Williams^2/Wanamaker/Langford/Semi group can give us 15-20 min each game that's productive. If Brad picks the right ones each game, we're in great shape. Getting rid of the one starter lineups will help a lot. But, we still need someone to eat those minutes and be productive.

6 is low.... IMO, can also rely on Kanter, and no issue with Grant, Wanamaker, or Semi getting some playoff run. Wouldn't even hate RWill or Langford getting spot minutes.

[Dogen]

The team has Romeo and Grant playing minutes, but they are young and not tested their n the playoffs.

Then there are Tacko and Waters, maybe Edwards,
waiting in the wings. And there are picks coming this summer.

I don’t really get how Green and Porier fit in. If the team
is serious about going for it this year, I’d swap em both out and bring in Bogut and Stephenson.

An experienced, tested big like Bogut would help off the bench, if only for a few key matchups and minutes in the playoffs.

Hear me out on Lance: yep he might not be the locker room guy you want, but he’s the type of disrupting force on the court that the team needs. The team is too young and too nice. I know it’s part of the team culture now but I get the impression that good teams like the Lakers, Bucks, Clippers and Rockets aren’t worried about us because of the lack of experience and a certain type of attitude.

I miss the bench mob attitude.

[djFan71]

Spoiler:

Wannamaker has a Raptor of -1.5 total overall, so saying he's below average might be true for average Raptor, but that's got a lot of superstars and starters in there. He has a WAR (wins over replacement) of positive .7.

I would bet you can't find any 3 string, or even 2nd string PG's with better Raptor or War.

GB was just talking about Sexton being good, and he's at like -3.8 and Garland -6 something. Which fits the eye test when they were ate alive by our 2 way player in the preseason.

Bulls White is -2.6.

Clippers Lou Williams is -.5 (let that sink in guys looking for a 6th man chucker to sign)

Jeff Teague is -3.3 for the hawks.

Rozier -2

Frank N -1.9 (lol, curm)

Rondo -3.4

Fultz -2.4

Brunson +2.1 (go mavs)

Ish smith -3.3

IT -7 (i think that's league worse)

I mean, it's not easy to find a 3rd string, even 2nd string better than Wannamaker. (marcus is a +3.3 in case you didn't look yourself)

Wanamaker's a great 3rd string, decent 2nd. But I think the point stands about really having 6 guys you can truly rely upon. I don't think any of the buyout flotsam would help - Marvin Williams would have, Harkless if he'd got bought out, but nobody that was actually available to us. But, the bench is a definite concern for the playoffs.

We're really just hoping that one/two of the Kanter/Williams^2/Wanamaker/Langford/Semi group can give us 15-20 min each game that's productive. If Brad picks the right ones each game, we're in great shape. Getting rid of the one starter lineups will help a lot. But, we still need someone to eat those minutes and be productive.

6 is low.... IMO, can also rely on Kanter, and no issue with Grant, Wanamaker, or Semi getting some playoff run. Wouldn't even hate RWill or Langford getting spot minutes.

Kanter seems matchup dependent to me. When he works, he works. I almost said 6.5, but that's kinda the point. Same with all the other guys. I'd like to see 'em all get minutes, but I don't see any that can contribute as consistently as the top 6. That's where I was going. Brad has 6 guys that he knows he can/will play every night and they'll produce. Then a grab bag of other options depending on matchups, how the game's going, etc.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Everyone wanted Jordan Bell. Nobody wanted Semi. Back at their draft.

Career numbers:
Bell: 56% from the field, 1.2 ValueOverReplacement, 0.5 Box +/-
Semi: 39% from the field, -1 ValueOverReplacement, -3.6 Box +/-

One won a championship and went to the finals every year, the other would be great if you needed someone to move a tree stump for you.

Why was Bell waived? When was he waived? A day late?



Jason Smith, Alan Williams, some rebounding help. Does Corey Brewer still play? Swedish Larry Bird available? The bottom of the barrel is Dion, not going there, but close.

[floyd]

Jordan Bell released by Memphis. He had a nice rookie year with GSW and has stunk since then. But he's a strong athletic 6'8" F/C and might still have some upside.

Anyone have feelings about him?

Isn't it too late now? Was thinking 3/1 was the deadline to be playoff eligible.
I remember wanting him over Semi in the draft, but that's about it... haven't followed him since.

Oh hell. Yeah I think you're right. Never mind haha.

Why’d they cut him after the deadline. Seems like a dick move.

[themoneyteam2]

OK, so the Markieff hill ain't popular (didn't want to do the work to quote you all, so I didn't bother to do any...).

But we're talking low cost pickup, that didn't happen. He wasn't the only guy you could've gotten. That's the main point, but it'll be lost in Morris ptsd. That's fine.

That said, I'd still take him as an option for Brad to throw out there. He wouldn't have nearly the role of Marcus last year (and he's actually a different person). We're talking 10-15 minutes max depending on matchups.

I know he's gotta say nice things and all, but substitute Semi or Javonte as their acquisition and I don't think LeBron says the same stuff. And you know he signed off on it before it happened:

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LeBron isn’t exactly a great GM...

I’m shocked he signed off on adding a Klutch guy

[zoyathedestroya]

The Celtics are 9-4 without Kemba. None of the losses were by more than 5 points. I'm guessing a healthy Kemba would be the best late season addition out there at this point. Getting a healthy and up-to-speed Timelord wouldn't hurt either.

[Bleeding Green]

Isn't it too late now? Was thinking 3/1 was the deadline to be playoff eligible.
I remember wanting him over Semi in the draft, but that's about it... haven't followed him since.

Oh hell. Yeah I think you're right. Never mind haha.

Why’d they cut him after the deadline. Seems like a dick move.

Probably points to him being a real piece of ****. Which is probably true since he apparently used Mike Brown's credit card to charge hotel expenses to during his rookie year, didn't show up to optional practices during his rookie year. Probably just a general dumbass not worth dealing with. But he can jump high so he'll get more chances.

[flintsky21]

Can we pick up Troy Daniels? 40% career three-point shooter. I know the FO believe that the group of Kanter-Williams-Wanamaker-Semi is good enough in the playoffs (which I strongly disagree), but it wouldn't hurt to add a pure shooter.

[BillessuR6]

Can we pick up Troy Daniels? 40% career three-point shooter. I know the FO believe that the group of Kanter-Williams-Wanamaker-Semi is good enough in the playoffs (which I strongly disagree), but it wouldn't hurt to add a pure shooter.

I would cut Green for him or even Broekhoff. Would`t hurt to have a 40% three point shooter on the bench...

[5InOfLouisville]

Can we pick up Troy Daniels? 40% career three-point shooter. I know the FO believe that the group of Kanter-Williams-Wanamaker-Semi is good enough in the playoffs (which I strongly disagree), but it wouldn't hurt to add a pure shooter.

I do think he is available for the playoffs, and he is definitely a solid catch-and-shoot specialist, but he truly defines "specialist". he isn't good at much else. awful defense, doesnt rebound or pass....does seem to have decent handles....

EDIT: BUT on the positive side, i just googled him and the first thing that came up was a tweet from last night that read "Wine makes me happy", and included a wine glass emoji and pictures of troy pre- and post-wine.

Me too, troy. me too.

[Curmudgeon]

No Laker castoffs please.

[themoneyteam2]

Thought this was a pretty good summary of the potential concerns of the bench

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