Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

[ConstableGeneva]

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From the trades and transactions board, some idiot suggested Hayward, Theis, Edwards for RoCo, Tucker, Eric Gordon, 2022 unprotected pick.

I think Roco and Tucker are good players. I'm not a big fan of Gordon.

Eric Gordon is washed and has an awful contract. If not for the unprotected pick (and the hope that Houston falls apart quick), I wouldn't do this either. Maybe you could flip him later on before Kemba's deal expires. He's okay to be an 8th or 9th guy if top end of roster is pretty good.

[flintsky21]

who's this guy with last name center? If he's any good i guess i'll listen to offers.

Heck, plug in a Jahlil Okafor in there and that would still be a nasty defensive lineup.

I would have to assume team would aggressively shop Hayward for a bigman defender (adams?) or the like

It wouldn't even have to be a premier defensive big. The Durant era Warriors had guys like Pachulia, Looney, Damion Jones and the ghost of Cousins starting for them and they still would've went 3-peat if not for a Durant and Thompson injury in the finals. A Biyombo or a Mcgee would be good enough.

[tfribs45]

Adams or Griffin would be upgrades on the boards! I'm surprised were not seeing more C's fans mentioning the options... Not sure if Hayward would work but we have what's necessary to take a flyer on either one without touching our core???

[BK_2020]

Anyone else think Kevon Looney looks like Parish? Maybe trade VP for him just for that.

[SmartWentCrazy]

New three team trade idea:

Boston Trades: Hayward, 26
Boston Receives: Aaron Gordon, Delon Wright, 31

Dallas Trades: THJ, Delon Wright, 18, 31
Dalas Receives: Hayward

Orlando Trades: Aaron Gordon
Orlando Receives: THJ, 18, 26

Orlando moves on from Gordon’s long term cash and packages 15, 18 and 26 to move up to the top 10 of the draft. Dallas upgrades to Hayward. Boston adds a long term piece in AG, bench depth in Wright and cuts salary.

[Darth Celtic]

1. Houston has 2 positive assets. Harden and Roco. Maybe PJ, but at 35 years old and 9m a year.... Not sure on that one.
2. 0 chances we trade for Griffin. He has worse injury history than Hayward which seems impossible.
3. We aren't trading Kemba for PG13 straight up, even less so adding in multiple picks. After the season is over Kemba has a 15% kicker so not sure if it's even legal in the new league year.
4. We can't trade Hayward until after the draft, stop trying.
5. If we do trade Hayward after the draft, he too has 15% trade kicker, making it harder to trade him.
6. Don't expect blockbuster trades. Think a series of small moves to improve depth and create roster space for more money controlled rookies at the end of bench.

[ConstableGeneva]

Grain of salt and all that...

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So, for now, it appears that Cleveland and Drummond are at a stalemate heading into the 2020-21 season. According to league sources, Drummond is still expected to pick up his $28.7 million player option soon and will be a Cavalier going forward. That buys all parties involved some very expensive extra time. But, living on borrowed time still doesn’t change the fact that both Drummond and Cleveland need to figure out the next steps in their relationship.

Thankfully, that borrowed time does allow the Cavaliers to further continue their evaluation period of Drummond. If things smooth out and the playmaking and three-point shooting diminish, it becomes a lot more reasonable for Cleveland to talk themselves into extending Drummond. But, if things don’t get better it becomes even easier to flip Drummond and his mammoth expiring contract to another team to recoup assets to assist in their rebuild. Teams like the Boston Celtics, the San Antonio Spurs and the Los Angeles Clippers all make sense as trade destinations for Drummond and according to sources, the Celtics are monitoring the situation.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Grain of salt and all that...

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So, for now, it appears that Cleveland and Drummond are at a stalemate heading into the 2020-21 season. According to league sources, Drummond is still expected to pick up his $28.7 million player option soon and will be a Cavalier going forward. That buys all parties involved some very expensive extra time. But, living on borrowed time still doesn’t change the fact that both Drummond and Cleveland need to figure out the next steps in their relationship.

Thankfully, that borrowed time does allow the Cavaliers to further continue their evaluation period of Drummond. If things smooth out and the playmaking and three-point shooting diminish, it becomes a lot more reasonable for Cleveland to talk themselves into extending Drummond. But, if things don’t get better it becomes even easier to flip Drummond and his mammoth expiring contract to another team to recoup assets to assist in their rebuild. Teams like the Boston Celtics, the San Antonio Spurs and the Los Angeles Clippers all make sense as trade destinations for Drummond and according to sources, the Celtics are monitoring the situation.

Dislike how we continue to be linked to him; makes me think its more real than I wish it was.

[BK_2020]

Aaron Gordon is just a more athletic looking G Will with worse defense and shooting.

[100proof]

New three team trade idea:

Boston Trades: Hayward, 26
Boston Receives: Aaron Gordon, Delon Wright, 31

Dallas Trades: THJ, Delon Wright, 18, 31
Dalas Receives: Hayward

Orlando Trades: Aaron Gordon
Orlando Receives: THJ, 18, 26

Orlando moves on from Gordon’s long term cash and packages 15, 18 and 26 to move up to the top 10 of the draft. Dallas upgrades to Hayward. Boston adds a long term piece in AG, bench depth in Wright and cuts salary.

I find it hard to believe that I would not have posted this trade at one point in time or another. lol.

I like it though. Not sure on Gordons fit here.

[Darth Celtic]

Grain of salt and all that...

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So, for now, it appears that Cleveland and Drummond are at a stalemate heading into the 2020-21 season. According to league sources, Drummond is still expected to pick up his $28.7 million player option soon and will be a Cavalier going forward. That buys all parties involved some very expensive extra time. But, living on borrowed time still doesn’t change the fact that both Drummond and Cleveland need to figure out the next steps in their relationship.

Thankfully, that borrowed time does allow the Cavaliers to further continue their evaluation period of Drummond. If things smooth out and the playmaking and three-point shooting diminish, it becomes a lot more reasonable for Cleveland to talk themselves into extending Drummond. But, if things don’t get better it becomes even easier to flip Drummond and his mammoth expiring contract to another team to recoup assets to assist in their rebuild. Teams like the Boston Celtics, the San Antonio Spurs and the Los Angeles Clippers all make sense as trade destinations for Drummond and according to sources, the Celtics are monitoring the situation.

Dislike how we continue to be linked to him; makes me think its more real than I wish it was.

yes, trading 28m in salaries and a better player to have a worse version of Kanter who we had for 5m sounds legit.

[Darth Celtic]

New three team trade idea:

Boston Trades: Hayward, 26
Boston Receives: Aaron Gordon, Delon Wright, 31

Dallas Trades: THJ, Delon Wright, 18, 31
Dalas Receives: Hayward

Orlando Trades: Aaron Gordon
Orlando Receives: THJ, 18, 26

Orlando moves on from Gordon’s long term cash and packages 15, 18 and 26 to move up to the top 10 of the draft. Dallas upgrades to Hayward. Boston adds a long term piece in AG, bench depth in Wright and cuts salary.

I find it hard to believe that I would not have posted this trade at one point in time or another. lol.

I like it though. Not sure on Gordons fit here.

except it's impossible to do because as we said multiple times, we can't trade Hayward until he picks up his option a month after the draft.

[Celts17Pride]

Grain of salt and all that...

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So, for now, it appears that Cleveland and Drummond are at a stalemate heading into the 2020-21 season. According to league sources, Drummond is still expected to pick up his $28.7 million player option soon and will be a Cavalier going forward. That buys all parties involved some very expensive extra time. But, living on borrowed time still doesn’t change the fact that both Drummond and Cleveland need to figure out the next steps in their relationship.

Thankfully, that borrowed time does allow the Cavaliers to further continue their evaluation period of Drummond. If things smooth out and the playmaking and three-point shooting diminish, it becomes a lot more reasonable for Cleveland to talk themselves into extending Drummond. But, if things don’t get better it becomes even easier to flip Drummond and his mammoth expiring contract to another team to recoup assets to assist in their rebuild. Teams like the Boston Celtics, the San Antonio Spurs and the Los Angeles Clippers all make sense as trade destinations for Drummond and according to sources, the Celtics are monitoring the situation.

Dislike how we continue to be linked to him; makes me think its more real than I wish it was.

Not a fan but probably could be talked into Hayward/14th for Drummond/5th but as Darth C brought up Hayward won’t decide his option until after the draft

[djFan71]

New three team trade idea:

Boston Trades: Hayward, 26
Boston Receives: Aaron Gordon, Delon Wright, 31

Dallas Trades: THJ, Delon Wright, 18, 31
Dalas Receives: Hayward

Orlando Trades: Aaron Gordon
Orlando Receives: THJ, 18, 26

Orlando moves on from Gordon’s long term cash and packages 15, 18 and 26 to move up to the top 10 of the draft. Dallas upgrades to Hayward. Boston adds a long term piece in AG, bench depth in Wright and cuts salary.

Iterations on this were a fav of hugepatsfan/100proof a few months ago. Throw in a secondary Bjelica move and you're there all the way. There's also the full SAC Bjelica/Barnes approach.

All are various levels of close to good, imo. It all comes back to no trade making us better than a healthy hayward, but teams aren't going to pay what he's worth healthy, and he's expiring. It's just kinda depressing... But, if you do want to move on something along thos lines is nice.

I actually kinda like a Fournier version as well. We keep 18, send them 30,31. Replace Gordon's wing shooting/scoring somewat. Big TPE, can S&T for Favors or something (with 21 FRP).

[Darth Celtic]

Grain of salt and all that...

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Dislike how we continue to be linked to him; makes me think its more real than I wish it was.

Not a fan but probably could be talked into Hayward/14th for Drummond/5th

which can't be done because both players won't opt in until after the draft.

[Bleeding Green]

lmao Andre Drummond. You couldn't pay Ainge to trade for him. Since when does Danny Ainge love slow, ****, expensive centers who can't shoot? Forbes isn't really known for their sports analysis.

[Celts17Pride]

Dislike how we continue to be linked to him; makes me think its more real than I wish it was.

Not a fan but probably could be talked into Hayward/14th for Drummond/5th

which can't be done because both players won't opt in until after the draft.

I agree. I quickly edited my post to include your point but obviously not fast enough. LOL!!!

[djFan71]

except it's impossible to do because as we said multiple times, we can't trade Hayward until he picks up his option a month after the draft.

He can pick it up early, right? So, if he likes the destination, it's still fine. IND, GSW I can see no problem. DAL is the iffy one, but playing with Luka could make it interesting.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Dislike how we continue to be linked to him; makes me think its more real than I wish it was.

Not a fan but probably could be talked into Hayward/14th for Drummond/5th

which can't be done because both players won't opt in until after the draft.

I mean, I can guarantee Drummond would pick up option to facilitate that. Hayward though... cant see it.

[Disinformation]

Nah, just find a place where Hayward would be willing to go and he can opt in early to make the trade happen.