Official Celtics 2022 Off-Season Thread

[Shak_Celts]

It's been mentioned before but I'd like to reiterate that the Eastern Conference standings aren't quite what they feel like atm.

Bulls 27-15 (5-5)
Heat 28-16 (4-6)
Nets 27-16 (7-3)
Cavs 27-18 (7-3)
Bucks 27-19 (4-6)
Sixers 25-18 (8-2)
Hornets 24-20 (7-3)
Wizards 23-21 (6-4)
Raptors 21-20 (7-3)
Celtics 23-22 (7-3)

We're 5.5 games back. If Tatum gets going we'll move into the 6 seed.

Tatum has gotten going and we're winning. I know we've played bad teams, but why do people pretend like we weren't playing like trash against bad teams this season.

Someone (zoya prob) posted a while back that we usually get up for good teams and stumble against the teams we should beat. Maybe the entire team is getting going. Another test is coming tonight, hopefully we prove right by winning and not look like we did vs 6ers.

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I wish somebody would actually look at film and compare his release this year and last. Like I have been saying since preseason, he changed his shooting mechanics.

Maybe it is because he bulked up, I do not know. But it cant be just me that noticed this...

He had pretty much all open threes last night, he simply can not make them...

Why are we having all those coaches on the team? Watch some film and correct his mechanics...

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Slightly better playmaker, worse shooter/scorer. Sounds about right.

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Currently, after the Hernangomez trade for Bol Bol and PJ Dozier, Spottac has Boston sitting at 2,777,853 over the Lux tax. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I believe it to be close, considering Jaylen Brown's likely incentives. So here is my prediction of what POBO Stevens will do next.

1) trade Schroder to Phoenix straight up for Jalen Smith. Pheonix does this to get another ball handler / scorer along with Chris Paul and Cameron Payne insurance.
Boston does this to get something for Schroder, and also get an extended look at Jalen Smith. This also saves Boston another 1,432.000 off the lux tax and drops Boston to only 1,345,853 over the lux tax.

2) trade PJ Dozier, along with 2 mil in cash to cover his 1,910,860 salary, to OKC for a fake 2nd round pick. OKC does this to lessen the amount they are under the salary floor by almost 2 mil and uses Boston's money to do it.
Boston does this to move another 1,910,860 off the lux tax, putting them 565,007 under the lux tax, pushing the repeater tax starting off for until next year, where they will certainly be in the lux tax. (Boston sent SA 2,150,000 in cash in the Hernangomez trade, so with the max amount of cash they can send out a year being 5,617,000, Boston would still have 1,467,000 in cash they could send out in another deal should it come up, after this deal for Dozier.

Boston then has 14 players under contract, are under the lux tax, and have more flexibility with the lux tax and repeater tax reset, and still has all their 1st round picks and TPE's.

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Currently, after the Hernangomez trade for Bol Bol and PJ Dozier, Spottac has Boston sitting at 2,777,853 over the Lux tax. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I believe it to be close, considering Jaylen Brown's likely incentives. So here is my prediction of what POBO Stevens will do next.

1) trade Schroder to Phoenix straight up for Jalen Smith. Pheonix does this to get another ball handler / scorer along with Chris Paul and Cameron Payne insurance.
Boston does this to get something for Schroder, and also get an extended look at Jalen Smith. This also saves Boston another 1,432.000 off the lux tax and drops Boston to only 1,345,853 over the lux tax.

2) trade PJ Dozier, along with 2 mil in cash to cover his 1,910,860 salary, to OKC for a fake 2nd round pick. OKC does this to lessen the amount they are under the salary floor by almost 2 mil and uses Boston's money to do it.
Boston does this to move another 1,910,860 off the lux tax, putting them 565,007 under the lux tax, pushing the repeater tax starting off for until next year, where they will certainly be in the lux tax. (Boston sent SA 2,150,000 in cash in the Hernangomez trade, so with the max amount of cash they can send out a year being 5,617,000, Boston would still have 1,467,000 in cash they could send out in another deal should it come up, after this deal for Dozier.

Boston then has 14 players under contract, are under the lux tax, and have more flexibility with the lux tax and repeater tax reset, and still has all their 1st round picks and TPE's.

If we do go for the Smith/Schröder Trade, I'd look for Stevens to use another TPE for Smith's Salary.
While also gaining a New TPE for Schröder's Salary.

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Currently, after the Hernangomez trade for Bol Bol and PJ Dozier, Spottac has Boston sitting at 2,777,853 over the Lux tax. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I believe it to be close, considering Jaylen Brown's likely incentives. So here is my prediction of what POBO Stevens will do next.

1) trade Schroder to Phoenix straight up for Jalen Smith. Pheonix does this to get another ball handler / scorer along with Chris Paul and Cameron Payne insurance.
Boston does this to get something for Schroder, and also get an extended look at Jalen Smith. This also saves Boston another 1,432.000 off the lux tax and drops Boston to only 1,345,853 over the lux tax.

2) trade PJ Dozier, along with 2 mil in cash to cover his 1,910,860 salary, to OKC for a fake 2nd round pick. OKC does this to lessen the amount they are under the salary floor by almost 2 mil and uses Boston's money to do it.
Boston does this to move another 1,910,860 off the lux tax, putting them 565,007 under the lux tax, pushing the repeater tax starting off for until next year, where they will certainly be in the lux tax. (Boston sent SA 2,150,000 in cash in the Hernangomez trade, so with the max amount of cash they can send out a year being 5,617,000, Boston would still have 1,467,000 in cash they could send out in another deal should it come up, after this deal for Dozier.

Boston then has 14 players under contract, are under the lux tax, and have more flexibility with the lux tax and repeater tax reset, and still has all their 1st round picks and TPE's.

Reminder: OKC gains no benefit from getting closer to the salary floor. So there needs to be what they regard as sufficient benefit to them.

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I stopped listening to the Parish clip when he said Rob Williams wasn't a "deterrent" to attacking the rim.

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Currently, after the Hernangomez trade for Bol Bol and PJ Dozier, Spottac has Boston sitting at 2,777,853 over the Lux tax. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I believe it to be close, considering Jaylen Brown's likely incentives. So here is my prediction of what POBO Stevens will do next.

1) trade Schroder to Phoenix straight up for Jalen Smith. Pheonix does this to get another ball handler / scorer along with Chris Paul and Cameron Payne insurance.
Boston does this to get something for Schroder, and also get an extended look at Jalen Smith. This also saves Boston another 1,432.000 off the lux tax and drops Boston to only 1,345,853 over the lux tax.

2) trade PJ Dozier, along with 2 mil in cash to cover his 1,910,860 salary, to OKC for a fake 2nd round pick. OKC does this to lessen the amount they are under the salary floor by almost 2 mil and uses Boston's money to do it.
Boston does this to move another 1,910,860 off the lux tax, putting them 565,007 under the lux tax, pushing the repeater tax starting off for until next year, where they will certainly be in the lux tax. (Boston sent SA 2,150,000 in cash in the Hernangomez trade, so with the max amount of cash they can send out a year being 5,617,000, Boston would still have 1,467,000 in cash they could send out in another deal should it come up, after this deal for Dozier.

Boston then has 14 players under contract, are under the lux tax, and have more flexibility with the lux tax and repeater tax reset, and still has all their 1st round picks and TPE's.

Reminder: OKC gains no benefit from getting closer to the salary floor. So there needs to be what they regard as sufficient benefit to them.

They gain a marginal benefit by only paying the remainder of the salary they acquire. If they don't hit the floor they distribute the full amount under the floor to the rest of their players. So, that's something. Plus, they get the $ from Boston to cover it.

$2M, say it's half a season remaining for easy math, they pay $1M for Dozier. But raises their floor $2M. So they save that $1M difference. And if Boston sends them $2M more to cover, they make $3M on the trade.

But, your overall point is correct. They can rent that space to other teams and get assets, so giving it away for just the dollar amounts we're talking for Dozier is probably low on the priority list.

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Currently, after the Hernangomez trade for Bol Bol and PJ Dozier, Spottac has Boston sitting at 2,777,853 over the Lux tax. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I believe it to be close, considering Jaylen Brown's likely incentives. So here is my prediction of what POBO Stevens will do next.

1) trade Schroder to Phoenix straight up for Jalen Smith. Pheonix does this to get another ball handler / scorer along with Chris Paul and Cameron Payne insurance.
Boston does this to get something for Schroder, and also get an extended look at Jalen Smith. This also saves Boston another 1,432.000 off the lux tax and drops Boston to only 1,345,853 over the lux tax.

2) trade PJ Dozier, along with 2 mil in cash to cover his 1,910,860 salary, to OKC for a fake 2nd round pick. OKC does this to lessen the amount they are under the salary floor by almost 2 mil and uses Boston's money to do it.
Boston does this to move another 1,910,860 off the lux tax, putting them 565,007 under the lux tax, pushing the repeater tax starting off for until next year, where they will certainly be in the lux tax. (Boston sent SA 2,150,000 in cash in the Hernangomez trade, so with the max amount of cash they can send out a year being 5,617,000, Boston would still have 1,467,000 in cash they could send out in another deal should it come up, after this deal for Dozier.

Boston then has 14 players under contract, are under the lux tax, and have more flexibility with the lux tax and repeater tax reset, and still has all their 1st round picks and TPE's.

Reminder: OKC gains no benefit from getting closer to the salary floor. So there needs to be what they regard as sufficient benefit to them.

They get dollar for dollar in their pocket.

Whatever they are below the floor they have to give to their players.

Dozier and bolbol gives them 4 million dollars in their pocket for free with joston covering the 2 players salaries.


Its free money and has no impact if they want to continue the "take crap contracts for picks" path they have been travelling

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Currently, after the Hernangomez trade for Bol Bol and PJ Dozier, Spottac has Boston sitting at 2,777,853 over the Lux tax. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I believe it to be close, considering Jaylen Brown's likely incentives. So here is my prediction of what POBO Stevens will do next.

1) trade Schroder to Phoenix straight up for Jalen Smith. Pheonix does this to get another ball handler / scorer along with Chris Paul and Cameron Payne insurance.
Boston does this to get something for Schroder, and also get an extended look at Jalen Smith. This also saves Boston another 1,432.000 off the lux tax and drops Boston to only 1,345,853 over the lux tax.

2) trade PJ Dozier, along with 2 mil in cash to cover his 1,910,860 salary, to OKC for a fake 2nd round pick. OKC does this to lessen the amount they are under the salary floor by almost 2 mil and uses Boston's money to do it.
Boston does this to move another 1,910,860 off the lux tax, putting them 565,007 under the lux tax, pushing the repeater tax starting off for until next year, where they will certainly be in the lux tax. (Boston sent SA 2,150,000 in cash in the Hernangomez trade, so with the max amount of cash they can send out a year being 5,617,000, Boston would still have 1,467,000 in cash they could send out in another deal should it come up, after this deal for Dozier.

Boston then has 14 players under contract, are under the lux tax, and have more flexibility with the lux tax and repeater tax reset, and still has all their 1st round picks and TPE's.

Reminder: OKC gains no benefit from getting closer to the salary floor. So there needs to be what they regard as sufficient benefit to them.

They get dollar for dollar in their pocket.

Whatever they are below the floor they have to give to their players.

Dozier and bolbol gives them 4 million dollars in their pocket for free with joston covering the 2 players salaries.


Its free money and has no impact if they want to continue the "take crap contracts for picks" path they have been travelling

Fair enough. Even if we don't cover the whole cost, whatever we give them is money in their pocket.

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Reminder: OKC gains no benefit from getting closer to the salary floor. So there needs to be what they regard as sufficient benefit to them.

They get dollar for dollar in their pocket.

Whatever they are below the floor they have to give to their players.

Dozier and bolbol gives them 4 million dollars in their pocket for free with joston covering the 2 players salaries.


Its free money and has no impact if they want to continue the "take crap contracts for picks" path they have been travelling

Fair enough. Even if we don't cover the whole cost, whatever we give them is money in their pocket.

exactly

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Reminder: OKC gains no benefit from getting closer to the salary floor. So there needs to be what they regard as sufficient benefit to them.

They get dollar for dollar in their pocket.

Whatever they are below the floor they have to give to their players.

Dozier and bolbol gives them 4 million dollars in their pocket for free with joston covering the 2 players salaries.


Its free money and has no impact if they want to continue the "take crap contracts for picks" path they have been travelling

Fair enough. Even if we don't cover the whole cost, whatever we give them is money in their pocket.

Exactly.

Assuming BolBol 2 million per year saves them 2 million in their pocket (salary floor distribution to players-wise) but the season is half over so the only pay BolBol 1 million.

So its a free million.

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This is our moment.

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Brad has gathered the precious data of Ime Udokas bad coachiness but realized, he can't properly analyze it as he is but a lowly POBO.

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This is our moment.

So if the "Data" shows the Double Big is bad (even worse when Kanter/Freedom plays in it) does that mean Brad will slide a paper under Ime's door??