Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh!

[phincsfan]

Walsh has had a terrible summer league. He’s at least a year away if not more. His shooting is abysmal

He's a decent ft shooter so there is still hope. I think the coaching staff needs to keep it simple with him. Find a spot behind the arc and plant him there. Having him freelance and shoot from wherever isn't working for him. Get him in the corner like they did with AB. Build his confidence up slowly.

[shackles10]

Who would you rather have in the development pipeline… Walsh or Bronny?

Walsh because of his physical traits. Kids an octopus.

I’ve never seen an octopus make a 3. I haven’t seen Walsh make a 3 in a long time either. Maybe he really is an octopus.

[shackles10]

Walsh has had a terrible summer league. He’s at least a year away if not more. His shooting is abysmal

He's a decent ft shooter so there is still hope. I think the coaching staff needs to keep it simple with him. Find a spot behind the arc and plant him there. Having him freelance and shoot from wherever isn't working for him. Get him in the corner like they did with AB. Build his confidence up slowly.

AB was drafted as a good shooter coming into the league, especially in the midrange. He just had to extend past the college 3 line to the NBA line and adjust to the NBA in general. Walsh has never been a good shooter. He showed signs of progress last year but at least so far he’s been really bad.

[darrendaye]

Walsh has had a terrible summer league. He’s at least a year away if not more. His shooting is abysmal

He's a decent ft shooter so there is still hope. I think the coaching staff needs to keep it simple with him. Find a spot behind the arc and plant him there. Having him freelance and shoot from wherever isn't working for him. Get him in the corner like they did with AB. Build his confidence up slowly.

Seems like you watched a fair amount of the G League games so I'll defer to your feedback here. He shot 35% from 3 last year in G-League.

https://theswishtheory.com/scouting-reports/jordan-walsh/

I used this site as part of my crash course in draft prospects this year. I would say the profile for Walsh is well done. I advocated here previously to tilt a bit more half-court playmaking on him this year. Drive, kick, relocate to the corner should get a fair amount of repetition. Improving his discipline as a ball handler may provide him the level of involvement in the offense he craves. His assist/TO data is poor to date, and that's clearly where my concept gets pushback.

[Obrissy]

Walsh has had a terrible summer league. He’s at least a year away if not more. His shooting is abysmal

He's a decent ft shooter so there is still hope. I think the coaching staff needs to keep it simple with him. Find a spot behind the arc and plant him there. Having him freelance and shoot from wherever isn't working for him. Get him in the corner like they did with AB. Build his confidence up slowly.

AB was drafted as a good shooter coming into the league, especially in the midrange. He just had to extend past the college 3 line to the NBA line and adjust to the NBA in general. Walsh has never been a good shooter. He showed signs of progress last year but at least so far he’s been really bad.

You can also turn Walsh into the next Brissy and have him be an energy guy who contributes in help defense. The problem with that is that the Celtics rely on having a 5-man shooting squad that will punish you for sagging off anyone. If Walsh is out there never shooting, they can't use their 5 out offense.

[return2glory]

Who would you rather have in the development pipeline… Walsh or Bronny?

Why is that the only option?

And why do people keep bringing up that person's name? Some many people listen to dumb sports talk radio/podcasts. Even people that cover the Celtics. That player would not have been drafted had it not been for his steroids taking dad.

I knew it was meant as a joke but let's not bring up that person's name. There are so many players in the draft that deserve mention.

[cloverleaf]

My guess is the C's drafting 2 players several years older than him who play the positions he can play psyched him out. He is behind them in mental and physical maturity, experience and skill--and as he feared, it shows.

[cloverleaf]

Who would you rather have in the development pipeline… Walsh or Bronny?

Why is that the only option?

And why do people keep bringing up that person's name? Some many people listen to dumb sports talk radio/podcasts. Even people that cover the Celtics. That player would not have been drafted had it not been for his steroids taking dad.

I knew it was meant as a joke but let's not bring up that person's name. There are so many players in the draft that deserve mention.

Agreed. I'm sick of it, especially with the "I love the dad and son playing together" take.

[return2glory]

Walsh played decent in the SL other than for his shooting. And the thing about his shooting the 3, not only was it probably the worst ever in SL history but he keep on taking them like he was Ray Allen or Reggie Miller.

Walsh was a decent shooter from 3 in the G league, but in the SL he was trying to do too much.

[cloverleaf]

Walsh played decent in the SL other than for his shooting. And the thing about his shooting the 3, not only was it probably the worst ever in SL history but he keep on taking them like he was Ray Allen or Reggie Miller.

Walsh was a decent shooter from 3 in the G league, but in the SL he was trying to do too much.

He made some bone-headed and good plays outside of his shooting.

[Hal14]

My guess is the C's drafting 2 players several years older than him who play the positions he can play psyched him out. He is behind them in mental and physical maturity, experience and skill--and as he feared, it shows.

Yup, especially since one of the Celtics drafted 1 of those players (Baylor) 8 spots higher in the draft than they picked Walsh..and Baylor also overlaps more with Walsh from a positional standpoint.

I bet in practice leading up to SL, Baylor was outplaying Walsh..perhaps Peterson was also outplaying Walsh too..maybe Springer, Queta were too..and Watson, JD, ..and it freaked him out. Maybe even Tillie, Ramsey and Harper Jr were looking better than him in practice..at least offensively..

Last year at SL it was basically Walsh's team..

[return2glory]

Walsh played decent in the SL other than for his shooting. And the thing about his shooting the 3, not only was it probably the worst ever in SL history but he keep on taking them like he was Ray Allen or Reggie Miller.

Walsh was a decent shooter from 3 in the G league, but in the SL he was trying to do too much.

He made some bone-headed and good plays outside of his shooting.

Yup. His decision making and shooting need improvement. Hopefully for him, it will come in the next 2-3 years.

His shooting and decision making needs to catch up to his defense and rebounding. So he is half way there.

[shackles10]

Who would you rather have in the development pipeline… Walsh or Bronny?

Why is that the only option?

And why do people keep bringing up that person's name? Some many people listen to dumb sports talk radio/podcasts. Even people that cover the Celtics. That player would not have been drafted had it not been for his steroids taking dad.

I knew it was meant as a joke but let's not bring up that person's name. There are so many players in the draft that deserve mention.

He was a mocked and ridiculed draft pick who many including myself have questioned his place in the league. It’s not the only option, but it’s just a bar to compare where Walsh might be in his development. Before Summer League we would have laughed. Funny what a difference 4 games makes.

[playa-hater]

Walsh since the day he was drafted should have been molded to be a 3 and D player. Simplify his game. Allow him to Fit in with how he would/should be used with Boston going forward. He never should be influenced to "Do everything" on offense. He doesn't have that kind of game. Then throughout the seasons he could slow and steadily add things to his Bag. Maybe having a similar build to Tatum and seeing Tatum (and Brown) getting Paid so damn much makes me think he definitely is trying to be a Star.

After a year of Pro-ball, one would hope a player shows signs of progress. Even small ones. He has done nothing but gotten so much worse.. and most of it isn't just his horrendous shooting but his decision making. If he doesn't change and real soon, then just cut your losses and move on..

[165bows]

My guess is the C's drafting 2 players several years older than him who play the positions he can play psyched him out. He is behind them in mental and physical maturity, experience and skill--and as he feared, it shows.

Yup, especially since one of the Celtics drafted 1 of those players (Baylor) 8 spots higher in the draft than they picked Walsh..and Baylor also overlaps more with Walsh from a positional standpoint.

I bet in practice leading up to SL, Baylor was outplaying Walsh..perhaps Peterson was also outplaying Walsh too..maybe Springer, Queta were too..and Watson, JD, ..and it freaked him out. Maybe even Tillie, Ramsey and Harper Jr were looking better than him in practice..at least offensively..

Last year at SL it was basically Walsh's team..

Idk if he’s a quality NBA player in the future or not, he’s got a lot of tools and a lot of holes in his game. But he’s the type of athlete you take a swing on where the Celtics drafted him and are now.

But I’m not going to put too much stock in four summer league games. Sam Hauser wouldn’t have gotten a role based on his last summer league stint and I’ll be damned if he wasn’t the only guy that showed up for the champs in game 4 of the nba finals.

[sam_I_am]

Walsh shows potential on defensive end but he has hardly looked like a stopper yet. He rebounds okay but he is no second coming of Dennis Rodman. He doesn’t look like he is fluid or even quick on his feet. Unless he gets better offensively, neither his defensive potential nor his athleticism seem good enough to carry him the way it did for Rodman. I like having him on a 4 year deal to develop but he is riding the pine here or spending a lot of time in Maine this year IMO.

[cloverleaf]

having a similar build to Tatum

?!?

[playa-hater]

having a similar build to Tatum

?!?

Wiry long arms and athletic ability etc.. age related to a younger young Tatum, not current. But a few years of similar training could/should yield the same results.

[cloverleaf]

having a similar build to Tatum

?!?

Wiry long arms and athletic ability etc.. age related to a younger young Tatum, not current. But a few years of similar training could/should yield the same results.

Shorter with a more narrow build and less demonstrated ability to add muscle.

Other than that, sure, I guess.

[threrf23]

Walsh shows potential on defensive end but he has hardly looked like a stopper yet. He rebounds okay but he is no second coming of Dennis Rodman. He doesn’t look like he is fluid or even quick on his feet.

Last season he was the anti-Ojeleye. Semi didn't make things happen on defense, but he was unmatched at staying in front of his man. Whereas, going back to his college highlights, Walsh is known to make thing happen on defense, but anybody with a little bit of offensive skill could get by him with ease.

In his college highlights, he is able to make up for that and recover with blocked shots or altered shots by using length + some good instincts and crafty footwork, but that wasn't going to cut it in the NBA.

I think he has shown some improvement to this effect these past few games, if not last season in general, but I haven't watched carefully enough to be sure of it.