Around the NBA Thread 2016-17

The_Ghost_of_JB · Post #681 » by **The_Ghost_of_JB** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:44 am

It should have been pretty clear to people that when Love and Irving were actually playing in the finals the cavs were going to win. Even though was wrong about the numbers of games there is a reason why I said cavs in 6.

Marvel · Post #682 » by **Marvel** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:45 am

London2Boston wrote:Side note. Paul Pierce was the only one in the studio that called Cavs to win at first and even today. What a guy

I knew it when he called it.

Tyakack · Post #683 » by **Tyakack** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:46 am

Props to the cavs for taking down one of the best teams in NBA history. No hate, no excuses.

Writebloc · Post #684 » by **Writebloc** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:46 am

Marvel wrote:
Writebloc wrote:
Godmoney wrote:Big Boy sports.... hitting people in the nuts from behind. How about this, if LeBron walked over him, how about get up, and handle it like a man? Only you would describe hitting a man in the scrotum from behind as a manly act. No surprise, you have anime in your avatar. Manliness probably isn't your forte.

Ooooooooooo look a dude with steriods behind a keyboard, are you a Lebron worshipper 'Money? You think I need my man card punched by you? Boy, step to the rear, you must be soft as your brain if you going to let anyone step over you and put their d*ick all up in your face. Lebron started that whole "conflict" on purpose, to Green's credit he beasted and aside from a swipe he made the King look like a f★ck boy. I actually give credit to Lebron for trying to instigate, but then to lobby the league for 2 games. Whiny a$$ punk. I'm sure you must commiserate. Gift wrapped with a bow. Draymond ate Lebron for lunch in the series. If Curry could have shown up for one game, Lebron would be crying for different reasons. You bandwagon fans are all the same, jump to the flavor of the moment, Hey, Lebron congrats, you brought one to Cleveland, Kyrie was the MVP, and they should give J.R. Smith a bump for diving into Bogut's knee. Punk b*tches man winning titles. Enjoy Punk b*tches.

Happens in rugby and league all the time. I don't understand why people are so sensitive over that in a competitive sports game.

Primal instinct, it's an act of dominance. Not on that stage, not in the NBA.

DarkAzcura · Post #685 » by **DarkAzcura** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:49 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:It should have been pretty clear to people that when Love and Irving were actually playing in the finals the cavs were going to win. Even though was wrong about the numbers of games there is a reason why I said cavs in 6.

I mean it wasn't THAT obvious. GSW probably wins in 5 if Green isn't an idiot. Cleveland took advantage, and they clawed their way back in. Until that point, it was just GSW domination, and no team has ever come back from that in the Finals. Love was pretty much useless in this series. Irving definitely gave them that edge they missed last season.

DK-All Day · Post #686 » by **DK-All Day** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:50 am

Ainge better not even call Barnes' agent. Scrub of the highest magnitude.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #687 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:51 am

Froob wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Froob wrote:Paul needs to stay on TV, I want to see a segment for him called "The Truth" where he drops some cold hard criticism. Maybe he could replace Shaq?

Maybe he can replace Scal? That would be nice. I hate Scal.

Really? I love Scal. I see Paul as more of a studio guy than in the booth. Hope we throw him in there as a guest to give him a shot, if he doesn't immediately get a new job.

Idk I just don't like how he is always judging people for little things when he couldn't even get an inbounds play correctly. Just seems odd for some reason..plus he's not worthy of Tommy's chair. Pierce is. But I do agree he would be better as a studio guy..

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1qPTATzegQ[/youtube]

Captain_Caveman · Post #688 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:51 am

Tyakack wrote:Props to the cavs for taking down one of the best teams in NBA history. No hate, no excuses.

I don't think they are.

Hard to watch them in these last two series and think they could have hung with the best of the Celts, Lakers, Bulls, Spurs or even Pistons teams -- never mind 2 or 3 of them in the same playoffs.

Not top 10 for me, maybe not even top 20.

Celtsfan1980 · Post #689 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:52 am

Who choked more:Warriors or Spurs?

Captain_Caveman · Post #690 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:52 am

DK-All Day wrote:Ainge better not even call Barnes' agent. Scrub of the highest magnitude.

Stop me if you've heard this before... but I told you so.

He's not a top 20 SF, and I don't even like him over Jeff Green.

Captain_Caveman · Post #691 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:57 am

Celtsfan1980 wrote:Who choked more:Warriors or Spurs?

Easily Warriors.

Their players and fans have been talking crazy smack about being the GTOAT all year, and after having sealed a 3-1 late in Game 4, they took it upon themselves to spend the next three days calling the best player of his generation a "f--kboy", "p-ssy" and "b-tch".

Relentlessly went in on his manhood. On the floor, in the press, online, at their hotel...

No need for that, and you definitely have to back it up if you go that route. Wasn't just the fans, either. But definitely the fans. Even Lakers fans not as bad as these dudes were.

Blowing a 3-1 lead after that, including two on your own court, is as embarrassing a loss as I have ever seen.

They absolutely humiliated themselves, and deserve every bit of this.

The_Ghost_of_JB · Post #692 » by **The_Ghost_of_JB** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:57 am

DarkAzcura wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:It should have been pretty clear to people that when Love and Irving were actually playing in the finals the cavs were going to win. Even though was wrong about the numbers of games there is a reason why I said cavs in 6.

I mean it wasn't THAT obvious. GSW probably wins in 5 if Green isn't an idiot. Cleveland took advantage, and they clawed their way back in. Until that point, it was just GSW domination.

Well we can agree that Green is an idiot. He dodged a bullet after kicking Adams. Most people wouldn't out put themselves in a position to get in trouble but not Green.

Maybe the Warriors would have won in game 5 but it isn't like they didn't have two more chances. Cavs would have won last year if Irving and Love were healthy. Cavs are clearly the superior team.

Writebloc · Post #693 » by **Writebloc** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:00 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:It should have been pretty clear to people that when Love and Irving were actually playing in the finals the cavs were going to win. Even though was wrong about the numbers of games there is a reason why I said cavs in 6.

I mean it wasn't THAT obvious. GSW probably wins in 5 if Green isn't an idiot. Cleveland took advantage, and they clawed their way back in. Until that point, it was just GSW domination.

Well we can agree that Green is an idiot. He dodged a bullet after kicking Adams. Most people wouldn't out put themselves in a position to get in trouble but not Green.

Maybe the Warriors would have won in game 5 but it isn't like they didn't have two more chances. Cavs would have won last year if Irving and Love were healthy. Cavs are clearly the superior team.

Not sure Steph is completely healthy? I'd say it's 1-1.

DarkAzcura · Post #694 » by **DarkAzcura** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:02 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:It should have been pretty clear to people that when Love and Irving were actually playing in the finals the cavs were going to win. Even though was wrong about the numbers of games there is a reason why I said cavs in 6.

I mean it wasn't THAT obvious. GSW probably wins in 5 if Green isn't an idiot. Cleveland took advantage, and they clawed their way back in. Until that point, it was just GSW domination.

Well we can agree that Green is an idiot. He dodged a bullet after kicking Adams. Most people wouldn't out put themselves in a position to get in trouble but not Green.

Maybe the Warriors would have won in game 5 but it isn't like they didn't have two more chances. Cavs would have won last year if Irving and Love were healthy. Cavs are clearly the superior team.

Well just like how Irving and Love were hurt last year...Steph was clearly injured. Iggy was injured. Bogut was injured. It happens. There is no way you can say Cleveland is clearly the superior team. GSW was a minute away from back to back championships against them. There isn't anything clear about that.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #695 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:04 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
DK-All Day wrote:Ainge better not even call Barnes' agent. Scrub of the highest magnitude.

Stop me if you've heard this before... but I told you so.

He's not a top 20 SF, and I don't even like him over Jeff Green.

I do agree..but I think people are going a bit overboard here. A lot of guys sucked in these finals..including the so called best player in the planet, Curry. It's hard to pin the suck card on Barnes when so many more talented and experienced players **** the bed just as bad as he did.

The_Ghost_of_JB · Post #696 » by **The_Ghost_of_JB** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:06 am

DarkAzcura wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:
I mean it wasn't THAT obvious. GSW probably wins in 5 if Green isn't an idiot. Cleveland took advantage, and they clawed their way back in. Until that point, it was just GSW domination.

Well we can agree that Green is an idiot. He dodged a bullet after kicking Adams. Most people wouldn't out put themselves in a position to get in trouble but not Green.

Maybe the Warriors would have won in game 5 but it isn't like they didn't have two more chances. Cavs would have won last year if Irving and Love were healthy. Cavs are clearly the superior team.

Well just like how Irving and Love were hurt last year...Steph was clearly injured. Iggy was injured. Bogut was injured. It happens. There is no way you can say Cleveland is clearly the superior team. GSW was a minute away from back to back championships against them. There isn't anything clear about that.

If both teams were at full strength I'd take cavs every time. Maybe Curry was injured but Love was not the same either after that concussion. Golden state had no chance to win that game down the stretch. None. That game was over the second Curry made that behind the back pass that ended up in the third row.

Post #697 » by **Froob** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:06 am

Celtsfan1980 wrote:Who choked more:Warriors or Spurs?

Warriors for sure because they are the superior team. Cavs would have easily downed the Spurs. Spurs were really overrated for a 67 win team.

DarkAzcura · Post #698 » by **DarkAzcura** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:09 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
Well we can agree that Green is an idiot. He dodged a bullet after kicking Adams. Most people wouldn't out put themselves in a position to get in trouble but not Green.

Maybe the Warriors would have won in game 5 but it isn't like they didn't have two more chances. Cavs would have won last year if Irving and Love were healthy. Cavs are clearly the superior team.

Well just like how Irving and Love were hurt last year...Steph was clearly injured. Iggy was injured. Bogut was injured. It happens. There is no way you can say Cleveland is clearly the superior team. GSW was a minute away from back to back championships against them. There isn't anything clear about that.

If both teams were at full strength I'd take cavs every time Golden state had no chance to win that game down the stretch. None. That game was over the second Curry made that behind the back pass that ended up in the third row.

That's fine. That's your opinion. I just find it odd you are so confident in it. GSW wasn't getting blown out here, and the only reason the tides turned in Cleveland's favor was because of GSW injuries and Green's suspension. If you can excuse Cleveland for their injuries last year, why aren't you giving GSW the same benefit of the doubt here considering everything that happened after game 4? Seems inconsistent, IMO.

DarkAzcura · Post #699 » by **DarkAzcura** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:11 am

Froob wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:Who choked more:Warriors or Spurs?

Warriors for sure because they are the superior team. Cavs would have easily downed the Spurs. Spurs were really overrated for a 67 win team.

Weak western conference you know. :wink:

The_Ghost_of_JB · Post #700 » by **The_Ghost_of_JB** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:17 am

DarkAzcura wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:
Well just like how Irving and Love were hurt last year...Steph was clearly injured. Iggy was injured. Bogut was injured. It happens. There is no way you can say Cleveland is clearly the superior team. GSW was a minute away from back to back championships against them. There isn't anything clear about that.

If both teams were at full strength I'd take cavs every time Golden state had no chance to win that game down the stretch. None. That game was over the second Curry made that behind the back pass that ended up in the third row.

That's fine. That's your opinion. I just find it odd you are so confident in it. GSW wasn't getting blown out here, and the only reason the tides turned in Cleveland's favor was because of GSW injuries and Green's suspension. If you can excuse Cleveland for their injuries last year, why aren't you giving GSW the same benefit of the doubt here considering everything that happened after game 4? Seems inconsistent, IMO.

IMO Irving and Love being out were bigger losses than the Warriors not having Bogut and Iggy being injured. As for Green: He was out but it was 100% his fault. You have Green on your team you have to take the good with the bad.

As for Curry: I guess we have to wait and see if he was injured. All I know is that this is the second finals in a row he played below expectations.