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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#681 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Wed Jun 2, 2021 2:17 am

The "system" seems to have malfunctioned.


Goodbye, Brad.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#682 » by Triple7 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 4:13 am

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ParticleMan wrote:No, we didn't have far better talent. Maybe once we got Irving, but then Kyrie spent most of the time being injured or pouting and freezing out the Jays. IT was a nobody when we got him, a deadline pickup for a bucket of balls. Brown was terrible as a rookie, Tatum was solid but still very young. If you look at the players now, ours are far better, but at the time, it wasn't that big a difference.

What I find hypocritical is criticizing Brad for anything that goes wrong without ever giving him credit for anything good. I'll criticize Brad when he screws up, like he did against Spoelstra's zone last year. But I'll also give him credit, for instance when he coached circles around golden boy Nick Nurse in the series before that. I'll criticize him for mishandling Kyrie and losing Rozier who would be our best PG right now. But I'll give him credit for turning IT from a 3rd string castaway to an MVP candidate. Overall, Brad has done way more good than bad. And I definitely am not going to blame him for Kemba's knee, or Rwill and Hayward being made of glass.

I don't think Brad is the best coach in the L, I'd trade him for Pop in a heartbeat, and I'd even consider trading him for Spo because I respect the hell out of Spo. But I'd say Brad is top 5 and I'd maybe put him at #3, which is nothing to sneeze at, and not easily replaced if we fire him. There are many worse coaches in the L than Brad Stevens.


Come on man. Coached circles around Nick Nurse? Really? That series went 7 deep. We can’t even stop Lowry that series, and that included Siakam playing like a scrub. A team without Kawhi. Actually i blame Brad for us losing in the conf finals. If not for that disaster of a last second inbound defensive lapse, we could have beaten the raps early, instead, because our golden boy wanted to switch everything on defense, including a less than a second inbound, that game gave them life. Our guys, most eapecially tatum, was dead tired in the heat series. That is Brad’s fault. for the record, nobody saw that raps series, as something that Brad can be proud of.


This is Exhibit A for what I'm talking about. When our guys turtled in the the 4Q against Miami, it's all Brad's fault. When Siakam turtled against us, nope, that has nothing to do with Brad. Brad is completely responsible for the C's playing like crap against Miami, but apparently had nothing to do with the Raps playing like crap against us. This is the sort of inconsistency that indicates a biased agenda.

For the record, most major national pundits were predicting the Raps to win that series:
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/8/17/21370904/nba-playoffs-predictions-2020-bubble-lebron-james-kawhi-leonard-clippers-lakers-raptors
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/celtics-raptors-predictions-schedule-2020-nba-playoffs/g99nqbvdrd8u1ljavxxh7r29g
So if you're going to say Brad sucks because he couldn't beat Spo, then give him credit for beating Nick Nurse when his team was an underdog.


Siakam had a confidence problem that started way before the playoffs. Sure, we could have made his life hard with some good defense against him. But the fact that we can’t defend Lowry and Vanvleet, both little guys, makes me doubt if it was really our defense that made Siakam play poorly to start with. That’s debatable. Yes he beat Nick Nurse and the Raps, but it wasn’t convincing at all. Also, i don’t think the Raps were the underdogs. We have a better lineup on paper actually, and if Hayward was healthy, a lot were saying we could have been heavy favorites in that series. The Raps had a good offensive system and they move the ball fast, that’s why they win a lot if game despite losing Kawhi. A lot of it was also good coaching from Nurse. The difference between Brad and Nick, was Nick has a fire in him. He is a good motivator and leader. He let’s his players know that he has their backs. Stevens is just like a robot with no fire and passion. When was the last time he got a tech for his players, or even hava a go at the refs to just let his players know he has their backs? Never! He is **** boring as a coach, with same old boring rotation stategies, same old defensive system that ain’t working already, and yet refuses to adjust and adapt. Stagnant offense heavily built on individual talent. He preaches ball movement, and yet our offense is heavily relying on isos, and constant chucking of 3’s and hero ball. I just think we need something new and different. Changing the coach is a start. I don’t worry about Stevens. He would probably get a job with-in the day of getting fired. Sometimes change is essential to success.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#683 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jun 2, 2021 11:09 am

I don't think it's just the players, I think C's fans are ready for another voice as well.
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Post#684 » by ParticleMan » Wed Jun 2, 2021 11:38 am

Firing a guy after a season in which his team was decimated by covid and injuries is not a good look. I'm a lot less high on Brad now than I was at the same time last year. But I think he should get one more year, just out of respect for his track record and the challenges this year.

I remember many people were ready to bury Brad after the Kyrie debacle. He bounced back from that pretty well I thought.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#685 » by Bohemian » Wed Jun 2, 2021 11:45 am

ParticleMan wrote:Firing a guy after a season in which his team was decimated by covid and injuries is not a good look. I'm a lot less high on Brad now than I was at the same time last year. But I think he should get one more year, just out of respect for his track record and the challenges this year.

I remember many people were ready to bury Brad after the Kyrie debacle. He bounced back from that pretty well I thought.


Oh come on, it seems we are the only team that needs to be careful with the ¨good look¨stuff. I´ve had enough. We have a bad look regardless, so I am so sick of it. We need to look for what´s best for the team, as the other teams do. This is not charity. It´s the Boston Celtics.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#686 » by JediMasterRevan » Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:19 pm

ParticleMan wrote:Firing a guy after a season in which his team was decimated by covid and injuries is not a good look. I'm a lot less high on Brad now than I was at the same time last year. But I think he should get one more year, just out of respect for his track record and the challenges this year.

I remember many people were ready to bury Brad after the Kyrie debacle. He bounced back from that pretty well I thought.



Toronto fired their coach after he won coach of the year didnt they? Then they went on the win a title.
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Post#687 » by BK_2020 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:28 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:Firing a guy after a season in which his team was decimated by covid and injuries is not a good look. I'm a lot less high on Brad now than I was at the same time last year. But I think he should get one more year, just out of respect for his track record and the challenges this year.

I remember many people were ready to bury Brad after the Kyrie debacle. He bounced back from that pretty well I thought.



Toronto fired their coach after he won coach of the year didnt they? Then they went on the win a title.

Yeah and adding Kawhi and Gasol had nothing to do with it.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#688 » by Bohemian » Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:30 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:Firing a guy after a season in which his team was decimated by covid and injuries is not a good look. I'm a lot less high on Brad now than I was at the same time last year. But I think he should get one more year, just out of respect for his track record and the challenges this year.

I remember many people were ready to bury Brad after the Kyrie debacle. He bounced back from that pretty well I thought.



Toronto fired their coach after he won coach of the year didnt they? Then they went on the win a title.

Yeah and adding Kawhi and Gasol had nothing to do with it.


That´s why we need Masai ;)

Honestly, the change can only be effective if Ainge steps down.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#689 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:37 pm

Firing Brad is something that may have to be considered soon but he deserves another year. I know a lot of people complain about the offensive system, but keep in mind that the system looks bad partially because his personnel isn't good enough to run it
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#690 » by greenroom31 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 12:37 pm

Although I still believe Brad should be fired (for all the reasons previously noted in this thread -- players have tuned him out, lack of a pulse, poor/nonexistent rotations, poor offensive system, over-reliance on vets, etc.) I just see no chance of that happening unless Ainge is fired... which I also don't see happening.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#691 » by ParticleMan » Wed Jun 2, 2021 1:52 pm

greenroom31 wrote:Although I still believe Brad should be fired (for all the reasons previously noted in this thread -- players have tuned him out, lack of a pulse, poor/nonexistent rotations, poor offensive system, over-reliance on vets, etc.) I just see no chance of that happening unless Ainge is fired... which I also don't see happening.


welp... :winkgrin:
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Post#692 » by pac213up » Wed Jun 2, 2021 2:10 pm

Based on his track record I would give Brad another year. No coach was doing anything with this disjointed roster.
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#693 » by greenroom31 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 2:28 pm

ParticleMan wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:Although I still believe Brad should be fired (for all the reasons previously noted in this thread -- players have tuned him out, lack of a pulse, poor/nonexistent rotations, poor offensive system, over-reliance on vets, etc.) I just see no chance of that happening unless Ainge is fired... which I also don't see happening.


welp... :winkgrin:



Hahahahahaha so happy to be wrong!!
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#694 » by CTCeltsFan34 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 2:29 pm

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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#695 » by amory87 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 2:31 pm

Talk about failing up...
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Post#696 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 2:34 pm

Christ...Semi is about to get paid
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#697 » by greenroom31 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 2:38 pm

greenroom31 wrote:Although I still believe Brad should be fired (for all the reasons previously noted in this thread -- players have tuned him out, lack of a pulse, poor/nonexistent rotations, poor offensive system, over-reliance on vets, etc.) I just see no chance of that happening unless Ainge is fired... which I also don't see happening.


All I had to do was lose hope to make this happen hahahahaha

I'm taking credit for this!
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#698 » by 31to6 » Wed Jun 2, 2021 3:13 pm

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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#699 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Wed Jun 2, 2021 3:32 pm

Yo earnest where you at?
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Re: Fire Brad Stevens. 

Post#700 » by batabatuta » Wed Jun 2, 2021 3:39 pm

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