Kyrie Irving Goodbye Thread

[Roddy]

F**K KYRIE

I'm genuinely curious how much **** he will say about Boston once he is officially somewhere else.

"Boston wasn't the right fit for me. It was too close to the edge of the earth"

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I'm genuinely curious how much **** he will say about Boston once he is officially somewhere else.

"Boston wasn't the right fit for me. It was too close to the edge of the earth"

OMG, that gif has so many potential uses. Excellent.

[cloverleaf]

Hey Kyrie

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Ainge can say what he wants now, but he indulged Kyrie. Working with "good people" was never his priority. Culture was never his priority. He traded IT for Kyrie, and he wanted to trade all the young guys for AD, even though he never even wanted to be a Celtic. His priority was always to get stars. He doesn't have any of them right now, so he is upset. Kyrie deserves criticism, but Ainge doesn't have the right to take a moral high ground in this situation.

That is really not fair. People have faulted Danny for protecting Brad too much from difficult personalities. IT may have been more cheerful, but he was even worse at talking about himself all the time and that trade is one any GM would have made. And you can't really fault him for going after players that are in the top 2-3 in their position, that's his job.

Also, having been a player himself, Danny has always opted for radical honesty in dealing with his players. Overwhelmingly that is appreciated, but where a player is going to resent it, it will likely be in his honesty about his job being to trade for upgrades when he can.

[sam_I_am]

I think people are reading into Ainge’s comments as if it is a stab at Kyrie. I think Ainge was merely complimenting his draft picks for what is obvious to everybody paying attention - they are a really nice group of kids and it is more fun working with guys like that than a-holes.

[Taget]

In terms of the order of events, I think it went like this:

1. Youngs came into season with attitude

2. Team struggled

3. Hayward struggled

4. Youngs acted like jerks (specifically Rozier/Brown)

5. Kyrie didn't handle it well

6. Brad didn't handle it well

7. Ainge didn't make any moves.

8. Team played bad basketball (not on same page, etc...)

9. Kyrie started to hate Boston.

10. AD demands trade.

11. Season unravels


I really am so mad at Rozier and Brown. I hope Danny sees it the same way. But Kyrie has gone so scorched earth that it's hard to have any good feelings about him too.

When the team started to struggle was the year before that. After our winning streak after Hayward's injury the team started to struggle. It was after injuries decimated the team and forced us to go all young that the team came together for the playoffs. But to be honest we really started October 2018 where we were January 2018, pre-All Star Break. In retrospect we may have deluded ourselves because things began well (minus the first game of course!) and ended well that season.

[Curmudgeon]

Oh, I'm resigned to Kyrie coming back to Boston with his tail between his legs, just to spite me.

[Jaqua92]

In terms of the order of events, I think it went like this:

1. Youngs came into season with attitude

2. Team struggled

3. Hayward struggled

4. Youngs acted like jerks (specifically Rozier/Brown)

5. Kyrie didn't handle it well

6. Brad didn't handle it well

7. Ainge didn't make any moves.

8. Team played bad basketball (not on same page, etc...)

9. Kyrie started to hate Boston.

10. AD demands trade.

11. Season unravels


I really am so mad at Rozier and Brown. I hope Danny sees it the same way. But Kyrie has gone so scorched earth that it's hard to have any good feelings about him too.

This is exactly how it happened in my opinion. I've been beating the same horse since October. It started with Terry Rozier and Jaylen Brown.


The young guys were the initial problem. Kyrie's flighty personality and poor leadership essentially exasperated the issue.

It's a matter of someone else completely instigating a fight, however the opposite side too, while innocent in regards to their role in the initial conflict, make it much much worse. as much as I like Kyrie's talent and prefer him on the team to anyone else currently on the roster, the damage has been done. Brown and Tatum are okay because they have all star potential, but everyone else needs to go in my opinion. is Terry Rozier is still on this team, there will 100% be issues. If Danny has any sort of inside, he would recognize that Terry Rozier his main interest is being a star

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[Half-Full]

In terms of the order of events, I think it went like this:

1. Youngs came into season with attitude

2. Team struggled

3. Hayward struggled

4. Youngs acted like jerks (specifically Rozier/Brown)

5. Kyrie didn't handle it well

6. Brad didn't handle it well

7. Ainge didn't make any moves.

8. Team played bad basketball (not on same page, etc...)

9. Kyrie started to hate Boston.

10. AD demands trade.

11. Season unravels


I really am so mad at Rozier and Brown. I hope Danny sees it the same way. But Kyrie has gone so scorched earth that it's hard to have any good feelings about him too.

This is exactly how it happened in my opinion. I've been beating the same horse since October. It started with Terry Rozier and Jaylen Brown.


The young guys were the initial problem. Kyrie's flighty personality and poor leadership essentially exasperated the issue.

It's a matter of someone else completely instigating a fight, however the opposite side too, while innocent in regards to their role in the initial conflict, make it much much worse. as much as I like Kyrie's talent and prefer him on the team to anyone else currently on the roster, the damage has been done. Brown and Tatum are okay because they have all star potential, but everyone else needs to go in my opinion. is Terry Rozier is still on this team, there will 100% be issues. If Danny has any sort of inside, he would recognize that Terry Rozier his main interest is being a star

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I disagree. I think Kyrie was the initial problem, and the young guys' response to his personality and leadership exasperated the issue. Have you ever bitten into a peanut M&M and found that there was a bad peanut under that candy coating? The candy coating just can't compensate for that bad peanut taste. Kyrie's talent is the candy coating; his personality the bad peanut. As far as I am concerned, Kyrie can take his bad peanut taste to another team.

[azee2890]

I just cannot wait until we get some results next year to determine whether or not Kyrie is actually a positive or negative for this team. Looking forward to seeing if the "fun" Celtics come back or if it really is a reset button on the rebuild. Conversely, interested to see if Kyrie lights Brooklyn's bright future on fire as well, or if he and Durant set the the league on fire.

My prediction, Kyrie Irving will be the Allen Iverson of this generation. Exceptional individual player that people tend to love, but ultimately not conducive to team winning. Disclaimer: Allen Iverson is my favorite player or all time, but all the highs and lows I experienced as a fan of his taught me that players of his ilk just don't make teams better beyond the buckets they score.

[Jaqua92]

In terms of the order of events, I think it went like this:

1. Youngs came into season with attitude

2. Team struggled

3. Hayward struggled

4. Youngs acted like jerks (specifically Rozier/Brown)

5. Kyrie didn't handle it well

6. Brad didn't handle it well

7. Ainge didn't make any moves.

8. Team played bad basketball (not on same page, etc...)

9. Kyrie started to hate Boston.

10. AD demands trade.

11. Season unravels


I really am so mad at Rozier and Brown. I hope Danny sees it the same way. But Kyrie has gone so scorched earth that it's hard to have any good feelings about him too.

This is exactly how it happened in my opinion. I've been beating the same horse since October. It started with Terry Rozier and Jaylen Brown.


The young guys were the initial problem. Kyrie's flighty personality and poor leadership essentially exasperated the issue.

It's a matter of someone else completely instigating a fight, however the opposite side too, while innocent in regards to their role in the initial conflict, make it much much worse. as much as I like Kyrie's talent and prefer him on the team to anyone else currently on the roster, the damage has been done. Brown and Tatum are okay because they have all star potential, but everyone else needs to go in my opinion. is Terry Rozier is still on this team, there will 100% be issues. If Danny has any sort of inside, he would recognize that Terry Rozier his main interest is being a star

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I disagree. I think Kyrie was the initial problem, and the young guys' response to his personality and leadership exasperated the issue. Have you ever bitten into a peanut M&M and found that there was a bad peanut under that candy coating? The candy coating just can't compensate for that bad peanut taste. Kyrie's talent is the candy coating; his personality the bad peanut. As far as I am concerned, Kyrie can take his bad peanut taste to another team.

He's scapegoated in this regard. Stand by what I said, and what the other poster said. Kyrie "by nature" was going to be a problem , sure. You can say that. But he was Not the initial problem.

2017-2018, they played fine together. What changed? Young kids with egos who lack self awareness.

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[Half-Full]

This is exactly how it happened in my opinion. I've been beating the same horse since October. It started with Terry Rozier and Jaylen Brown.


The young guys were the initial problem. Kyrie's flighty personality and poor leadership essentially exasperated the issue.

It's a matter of someone else completely instigating a fight, however the opposite side too, while innocent in regards to their role in the initial conflict, make it much much worse. as much as I like Kyrie's talent and prefer him on the team to anyone else currently on the roster, the damage has been done. Brown and Tatum are okay because they have all star potential, but everyone else needs to go in my opinion. is Terry Rozier is still on this team, there will 100% be issues. If Danny has any sort of inside, he would recognize that Terry Rozier his main interest is being a star

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I disagree. I think Kyrie was the initial problem, and the young guys' response to his personality and leadership exasperated the issue. Have you ever bitten into a peanut M&M and found that there was a bad peanut under that candy coating? The candy coating just can't compensate for that bad peanut taste. Kyrie's talent is the candy coating; his personality the bad peanut. As far as I am concerned, Kyrie can take his bad peanut taste to another team.

He's scapegoated in this regard. Stand by what I said, and what the other poster said. Kyrie "by nature" was going to be a problem , sure. You can say that. But he was Not the initial problem.

2017-2018, they played fine together. What changed? Young kids with egos who lack self awareness.

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This article nails it. I'm sure the Nets are thinking hard on it, and it will be interesting to see if they decide to go with Mr. bad peanut.

https://deadspin.com/dont-do-it-nets-1835845756

[SuperDeluxe]

I disagree. I think Kyrie was the initial problem, and the young guys' response to his personality and leadership exasperated the issue. Have you ever bitten into a peanut M&M and found that there was a bad peanut under that candy coating? The candy coating just can't compensate for that bad peanut taste. Kyrie's talent is the candy coating; his personality the bad peanut. As far as I am concerned, Kyrie can take his bad peanut taste to another team.

He's scapegoated in this regard. Stand by what I said, and what the other poster said. Kyrie "by nature" was going to be a problem , sure. You can say that. But he was Not the initial problem.

2017-2018, they played fine together. What changed? Young kids with egos who lack self awareness.

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This article nails it. I'm sure the Nets are thinking hard on it, and it will be interesting to see if they decide to go with Mr. bad peanut.

https://deadspin.com/dont-do-it-nets-1835845756

The article is indeed spot on.

[Big Joke Line]

F**K KYRIE

I'm genuinely curious how much **** he will say about Boston once he is officially somewhere else.

Part of me hopes a lot.

[Big Joke Line]

I think people are reading into Ainge’s comments as if it is a stab at Kyrie. I think Ainge was merely complimenting his draft picks for what is obvious to everybody paying attention - they are a really nice group of kids and it is more fun working with guys like that than a-holes.

I’ll go with both.

[C-West]

[quote="Curmudgeon"]Oh, I'm resigned to Kyrie coming back to Boston with his tail between his legs, just to spite me

This is a legit concern for me as well. At this point I am far more excited about this team without Kyrie than with Kyrie. Would hate to have to backtrack on that.

[g5781]

Oh, I'm resigned to Kyrie coming back to Boston with his tail between his legs, just to spite me

This is a legit concern for me as well. At this point I am far more excited about this team without Kyrie than with Kyrie. Would hate to have to backtrack on that.

There is no way we bring him back. His sole purpose was to lure AD here and that ship has sailed.

[Big Joke Line]

Heard what? Chit chat of people a 2 cents reporters? I haven't heard CBS and DA say they wanted Kyrie out and are now relieved, I haven't heard Horford say nothing... I've only see a polemic mounted from Boston's enemies over a fair normal KI interview...
The press was pushing hard to make KI lose it and make fans hate him, unfortunately someone did bite and we are where we are now. It's not that Kyrie dindn't play last season with Boston, he did play and nobody was angry at him, everything was fine and dandy. Light up man.

weeeeeelllllll, not exactly true.

Ainge: "I think it just makes life more enjoyable when everybody is humble, hard-working, and will play any role they have to to help the team succeed. You do have to have a certain amount of talent to win, as we all know, but good people makes coming to work more fun."

9:56 AM - 24 Jun 2019

I like how to imagine something over an entirely different declaration is so normal that becomes the truth... You are elaborating a complex fantasy over a declaration that has nothing to do with it and make it very partial to validate your opinion.

There are options:

1. He was referring to the 4 guys alone, not jet ready to be good but very good people

2. He was taking a hit to Al Horford

3. He was taking a hit to Kyrie Irving

4. He was taking a hit to somebody in our young core that was not that humble, hard-working and willing to play in any role

5. He was giving a warning to the entire team


If I would have to pick one of the above I would pick number one, if I would have to see something beyond that, since DA differently from many posters isn’t blinded from hate and has more knowledge, I would say number 4 or 5. It makes way more sense and has a USE differently from the option 2 and 3.

1. Kyrie quit on his team in the 2018 playoffs by just not bothering to show up for the biggest game of every other player on the team’s career. Players like Rozier and Brown who up until that point had seen Kyrie as someone to look up to and defer to realized that he is not someone to emulate as a person and lost respect for him. Snowballed from there. Rightly so.

[KumaJG]

He had an appointment Not that serious. Boston media and unreasonable fans are the worst. Rick Pitino was on to something.

[ermocrate]

weeeeeelllllll, not exactly true.

Ainge: "I think it just makes life more enjoyable when everybody is humble, hard-working, and will play any role they have to to help the team succeed. You do have to have a certain amount of talent to win, as we all know, but good people makes coming to work more fun."

9:56 AM - 24 Jun 2019

I like how to imagine something over an entirely different declaration is so normal that becomes the truth... You are elaborating a complex fantasy over a declaration that has nothing to do with it and make it very partial to validate your opinion.

There are options:

1. He was referring to the 4 guys alone, not jet ready to be good but very good people

2. He was taking a hit to Al Horford

3. He was taking a hit to Kyrie Irving

4. He was taking a hit to somebody in our young core that was not that humble, hard-working and willing to play in any role

5. He was giving a warning to the entire team


If I would have to pick one of the above I would pick number one, if I would have to see something beyond that, since DA differently from many posters isn’t blinded from hate and has more knowledge, I would say number 4 or 5. It makes way more sense and has a USE differently from the option 2 and 3.

1. Kyrie quit on his team in the 2018 playoffs by just not bothering to show up for the biggest game of every other player on the team’s career. Players like Rozier and Brown who up until that point had seen Kyrie as someone to look up to and defer to realized that he is not someone to emulate as a person and lost respect for him. Snowballed from there. Rightly so.

Well, if that’s the case(the nose surgery KI had) you should send Rozier and Brown to hell immediately... Rightfully my ass, you can’t act like that in a workplace, especially if you are a smart ass kids who goes around explaining the reality to people... Even if you hate your teammates you play your best every single minute of every single game...


But I’m sure yours are just fantasies and the guys are not so stupid.

[ermocrate]

Oh good. By that standard, you can't say you've heard GH was a problem at all.

Actually the old fashion 'Hey guys! You know you're not the actual GM of the Celtics lol!' does actually mean, if you'll hold yourself to that same standard you can't have an opinion on anything Celtics related.

Enjoy!

Really, did you know the difference between one journalist(a serious one) saying “HAYWARD WAS THE PROBLEM” and another one saying “there are rumors that teammates are not fine with KI”?

Now I’m waiting for a link...

Do you know how to read this board, and multiple reports, and our own insiders confirming them?

Or do you just find one report, completely misread it, then when evidence is brought forth to dispute it you try to raise the standards of evidence to an impossibly high standard, then when it's pointed out that makes you a hypocrite for your original subject ignore it and go back to that same evidence?

Because it seems like you only know how to do one of these things. And it seems like it's the one that is the same logic used by drunk people at a bar.

It's not hard to find what I said through endless reports, so instead of waiting for a link stop being lazy and do a **** google search it's been reported over and over forever now.

I’m sorry for you and you life because you evidently don’t know how to relate to reality.