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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:16 am
by playa-hater
bisme37 wrote:Dang, Sixers fired a ton of people to save money. Including half the scouting dept. If Celtics did this we'd be rioting.

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So all combined, what did the Sixers save?? 1 Million per? a little more or less? shame. They over pay their athletes by millions (insert Ben Simmons here for a start) shame that "regular folks" get to boot when over paid lazy azz mother f*ckers, some who gets paid 200 million and they can't even work on their F ing FTs.

excuse my french..

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:49 pm
by LarryBirdsFingr
playa-hater wrote:
bisme37 wrote:Dang, Sixers fired a ton of people to save money. Including half the scouting dept. If Celtics did this we'd be rioting.

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So all combined, what did the Sixers save?? 1 Million per? a little more or less? shame. They over pay their athletes by millions (insert Ben Simmons here for a start) shame that "regular folks" get to boot when over paid lazy azz mother f*ckers, some who gets paid 200 million and they can't even work on their F ing FTs.

excuse my french..

Sixers have always been slimeballs

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:47 pm
by MagicBagley18
Watch Morey replace them with all guys affiliated with dame somehow lol

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:23 pm
by GoGreen
So, just out of curiosity, I was looking at the tax spending from every NBA team over the last 10 years. Some spend, some don't. Celtics are a bit above average, I'd say, but here are a few teams I thought were most interesting...

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cba/tax/

Celtics: ownership spent during the KG years, I'll give them that. But they never went as deep as they could have, I don't think, when compared to a few other teams during that time (Lakers, Mavs, Knicks, even the Cavs). Most they spent was about 15 mil, every other year under 10. Good? Eh... above average. Def could've spent more to keep up with the big dogs. They spend more in 2010 and they very well may have banner 18 and beat LA.

Since KG/Paul left, team has only gone into the tax once, and not by much. 3.4mil. Team has been rebuilding, fine. Not now. Time to open up that wallet, Wyc!

Knicks: I always thought Dolan was a cheap ass who didn't spend based on his rep, and since 2015, he kinda has been, but before that? Surprisingly, they really spent their faces off. They've paid the most luxury tax of any team over the past 10 years. Color me shocked. Dolan must truly be insufferable to deal with or flat out incompetent, maybe both, if he's willing to spend and still can't get a competent team on the floor.

Lakers: here's an interesting tidbit: The Lakers went on an awful run in the 2010s after Kobe retired, but it specifically coincided with the passing of Jerry Buss in 2013. They haven't spent into the tax ONCE since then. Jeanie looks to be quite the tight wad; her dad was the real fan. Regardless, they still won a title cause LA is LA and Lebron is Lebron.

Mavs: Cuban has, I think, a well deserved rep as being a fan-friendly owner that he built up during the Dirk years. To his credit, he spent his ass off during those years. But since 2012? Not a single year in the tax. I won't hammer him too hard, though, Dallas is 3rd in spending the last 10 years, so he really went all in with Dirk & co. He'll undoubtedly soon have to do the same with Luka.

Warriors: 2 of their 3 titles were won without going into the tax. Shows how good their drafting was! They've only gone into the tax 3 years in the last 10. Sounds pretty measly, huh? Thing is, they spent BIG money those years. Enough to put them at #8 in the highest spenders list. That said, feel like they should be spending more. That team is worth a ton.

Anyway, there's some other interesting teams to look at, but I'll stop there. I don't know how much these guys can afford to spend, but ultimately, just gut feeling a lot of these owners could probably spend much more than they do, but it is what it is. This is a business first for like, all of them. The ultimate goal is to make a profit, and a big one at that, otherwise they'd do something else with their money.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:23 pm
by ParticleMan
It's not just about the money. It's about bad contracts.

This was the Dolan experience. He basically was willing to spend as much as it took. But with that attitude, you end up overpaying guys. Then when you want to go a different direction or things don't work out quite as planned, it becomes a LOT harder to change course, because your team is full of negative value contracts. He stopped doing that because he realized that's not a winning business model.

Our owners spend when they have to. If we were truly contenders, I have zero doubt they would spend, because they did it during the KG/Pierce era. But spending into the tax and ending up a 7th seed is not a good business plan. It means you must be piling up bad contracts. In our case it was Kemba that hampered us, now it is Horford albeit less so. But it took us several picks to get out from under that, which further hurts us.

So it's more complicated than just looking at payrolls and saying which owners are cheap.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:41 pm
by bisme37
This is totally off topic but there's women's wheelchair basketball on TV right now for the Paralympics. It's pretty crazy. The ladies keep tipping each other's wheelchairs over and making their opponents faceplant lol.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:50 pm
by bisme37
Apparently ESPN has just cancelled The Jump.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:11 pm
by bucknersrevenge
bisme37 wrote:Apparently ESPN has just cancelled The Jump.


For good??

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:26 pm
by bisme37
bucknersrevenge wrote:
bisme37 wrote:Apparently ESPN has just cancelled The Jump.


For good??


Yeah they cancelled the Jump and will replace it with a new NBA show at a later date. They are removing Rachel Nichols from their NBA coverage but they aren't firing her.

I wrote more things here but I'm deleting it because I don't know what I'm talking about haha.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:43 pm
by Larry_Russell
bisme37 wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
bisme37 wrote:Apparently ESPN has just cancelled The Jump.


For good??


Yeah they cancelled the Jump and will replace it with a new NBA show at a later date. They are removing Rachel Nichols from their NBA coverage but they aren't firing her.

I wrote more things here but I'm deleting it because I don't know what I'm talking about haha.



It boils down to, imo, Rachel was too old.

I dont think she said anything bad, if the reports are true.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:21 pm
by bucknersrevenge
Larry_Russell wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
For good??


Yeah they cancelled the Jump and will replace it with a new NBA show at a later date. They are removing Rachel Nichols from their NBA coverage but they aren't firing her.

I wrote more things here but I'm deleting it because I don't know what I'm talking about haha.



It boils down to, imo, Rachel was too old.

I dont think she said anything bad, if the reports are true.


No she did. But in addition, the show was declining in viewership and I believe the show was her creation so they couldn't just replace her. Her comments I think may have low-key really damaged her standing in a largely African-American player base. ESPN did a **** job handling it as well. This is their further attempt at damage control with the league. But as usual, it comes a day late and a dollar short.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:39 pm
by zoyathedestroya
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:00 am
by Darthlukey
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Unfortunately a no news article. Kinda getting to the dull part of the off season

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:57 am
by moonie_mcgee
Can't wait to play the Sixers this year. This year we have a talented and balanced roster with depth, size and defined roles. JT should be going for 30+ and the scoring title.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:49 pm
by greenroom31
Here's some Ben Simmons news: https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/76ers-ben-simmons-trade-discussion-nba-training-camp-20210831.html

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Not going to help his trade value any...

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:55 pm
by bucknersrevenge
greenroom31 wrote:Here's some Ben Simmons news: https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/76ers-ben-simmons-trade-discussion-nba-training-camp-20210831.html

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Not going to help his trade value any...


They better take that CJ McCollum and RoCo offer and be glad for it.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:48 pm
by GoGreen
RoCo and CJ would be a great deal at this point. Wouldn't do it if I wqs Portland. Simmons ain't worth even that anymore.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:48 pm
by bisme37
So uhh, it's pretty fun watching the Sixers burn down. Nelson Ha Ha gif.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:49 pm
by Curmudgeon
It's gone from the "process" to "as the world turns" in Philadelphia.

Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2021, Part 3

Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:01 am
by darrendaye
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