Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

[bucknersrevenge]

This is about as nicely as I can say this, believe me, I’m not even quoting anyone!


The hell “you” mean trade Pritchard?!! He’s as perfect a 6th man scorer as you’re going to get @7m only!!!!! Just because I don’t want him to start doesn’t mean I want him traded for terrible reasons!!! He doesn’t make any money!!!!!

When he is up for new money, IF WE ARE FORCED to send him out, we can get a lot more from whatever we S&T him for!!!!! It’s certainly going to be more than the pennies he’s making now!!

Why are we like this???!!!!!!

I'm sorry Shak. I know I'm responsible for this. I don't see Pritchard getting moved this year at all to be clear. I just know that Brad has a type when it comes to his ballhandlers. PP has 3 more years on his deal and who knows, he may play them out here. But I don't see Brad paying for his next deal. And if other bigger guards like Scheierman for example, prove to be productive, then it creates options for Brad

Y’all couldn’t even wait til his pick value is worth top 10 after this season? Sending him for what the Rockets could give is poopoo. If he must be traded on this penny contract, can the ideas at least wait until this season where that value is about to skyrocket?! I don’t want anything the rockets have that could match Prichard’s money! He’s already valuable, but he’s going to have all the freedom he handle this season to raise it much higher!


Yes, I’m salty because I don’t want him traded, but I’m more confused by the timing. Rockets don’t have anything better than 6MOY, big sack , small stack (7m?), Pritch! Unless their pick could be top 10… I don’t even know if they have a pick tbh.

Yeah I was just speculating but no chance PP goes in a deal to the Rockets right now. Pritchard lasts at least this year if not the year after that.

[Shak_Celts]

We'll see how Houston plays without FVV, but they are in a win now situation and could put an intriguing, godfather like offer together for DWhite

Inflammatory! Stop it people!! It hasn’t been a good year! Don’t keep doing this to me!!

[playa-hater]

And what would/could we get in a "God Father like offer" from Houston.. speak now.. I am curious..

[redslastlaugh]

After December 15th:

Derrick White to Houston, Xavier Tillman to 3rd team

to Boston:

Ja'Sean Tate, Fred Van Vleet, 2027 best TWO unprotected firsts of Suns/Nets/Rockets, 2029 first round pick (Rockets/Suns/Mavs)

And what would/could we get in a "God Father like offer" from Houston.. speak now.. I am curious..

[Parliament10]

I doubt that they Trade VanVleet. Just like we're not Trading Tatum.
They'll wait out the Injury.

[Fierce1]

DWhite is the ultimate Celtic.

Great guy, great attitude, great work ethic, and a great basketball player.

Why would Brad trade a player like that?

[djFan71]

I doubt that they Trade VanVleet. Just like we're not Trading Tatum.
They'll wait out the Injury.

Different scenario imo. FVV isn't the key guy, and they just traded for KD. They don't have a year to waste. I think they have to find some sort of replacement. They'll try Sheppard/Amen and a vet min guy for a little bit until FVV is tradeable, but after that I'd be surprised if they don't make a move, tbh.

[cl2117]

The last time the C's tanked it was Brad's first year on the bench. That landed us Marcus with the 6th pick. We then got the benefit back to back years of Brooklyn tanking for us and landed the #3 and #1 picks respectively and turned them into the Jays. Brad of all people knows the benefits of building around high draft picks and the impact they can have for the team.

Even Brad's 1st year wasn't really a tank.

They won too many games and to think Jeff Green was the #1 option.

That 2013-14 Cs team should have gotten a top 4 or top 3 pick.

That 2013/2014 team absolutely was a tank, you're just ignoring the meaning of that word at this stage.

We did have the 4th worst record in the league. We should have had a top 3 or 4 pick, we just got unlucky. But we had just traded away KG/Pierce for deadweight contracts and picks. We didn't rush Rondo back from injury and he missed more than half the season. We didn't make any moves to try to backfill the losses we suffered. That's tanking my friend.

Tanking isn't like shaving points. It's not sending Tillman out there to do a Steph Curry impression from half-court and trying to lose. It's just actively not trying to advance your position and often times taking an intentional and significant step back. That's what Brad did with the KP/Jrue trades and staring at JT's achilles recovery and even Brown coming back from a minor knee surgery himself, we're at a crossroads and thus far he's chosen not to make any further kneejerk moves to try to jump back forward.

Brad is willing to tank. Just look at our frontcourt. He's stocked it with Queta/Garza and a 2nd round pick from England. That's not a serious big man rotation. He's not going to tell guys to go out and lose or tell Joe to intentionally blow anything but he's also not going out of his way to get tools to win in the short-term, that's a form of tanking.

There's levels to it. It's not exclusively just outright bottoming out.

[djFan71]

After December 15th:

Derrick White to Houston, Xavier Tillman to 3rd team

to Boston:

Ja'Sean Tate, Fred Van Vleet, 2027 best TWO unprotected firsts of Suns/Nets/Rockets, 2029 first round pick (Rockets/Suns/Mavs)

And what would/could we get in a "God Father like offer" from Houston.. speak now.. I am curious..

Value seems good, possibly a HOU overpay even. But, man, I just don't see a Jay or White going out before the summer of 27 at the earliest. We want to contend 26-27 year and I don't know who you turn around in bring in that allows that. You definitely have the assets, though, so you'd be hoping to use those picks and more to upgrade White by the start of 26-27 season. Possible for sure, but risky.

Next big star that shakes lose, you'd have FVV, above picks, BOS own picks. Hauser and Simons (if at deadline) for salary. You could get someone pretty big for that, possibly anyone on the market. But, then you'd be 3 mega contracts / no depth. IDK, fun to think of, but not sure how you make that work. Plus, I think that one would hit Tatum hard. Everyone else going this summer was rough, but DWhite would be even more so.

[Fierce1]

The last time the C's tanked it was Brad's first year on the bench. That landed us Marcus with the 6th pick. We then got the benefit back to back years of Brooklyn tanking for us and landed the #3 and #1 picks respectively and turned them into the Jays. Brad of all people knows the benefits of building around high draft picks and the impact they can have for the team.

Even Brad's 1st year wasn't really a tank.

They won too many games and to think Jeff Green was the #1 option.

That 2013-14 Cs team should have gotten a top 4 or top 3 pick.

That 2013/2014 team absolutely was a tank, you're just ignoring the meaning of that word at this stage.

We did have the 4th worst record in the league. We should have had a top 3 or 4 pick, we just got unlucky. But we had just traded away KG/Pierce for deadweight contracts and picks. We didn't rush Rondo back from injury and he missed more than half the season. We didn't make any moves to try to backfill the losses we suffered. That's tanking my friend.

Tanking isn't like shaving points. It's not sending Tillman out there to do a Steph Curry impression from half-court and trying to lose. It's just actively not trying to advance your position and often times taking an intentional and significant step back. That's what Brad did with the KP/Jrue trades and staring at JT's achilles recovery and even Brown coming back from a minor knee surgery himself, we're at a crossroads and thus far he's chosen not to make any further kneejerk moves to try to jump back forward.

Brad is willing to tank. Just look at our frontcourt. He's stocked it with Queta/Garza and a 2nd round pick from England. That's not a serious big man rotation. He's not going to tell guys to go out and lose or tell Joe to intentionally blow anything but he's also not going out of his way to get tools to win in the short-term, that's a form of tanking.

There's levels to it. It's not exclusively just outright bottoming out.

Like I said, let's wait 50 games.

Sure the frontcourt is weak, that's why nobody here is expecting the Cs to be a top 2 team in the east.
But top 4 to top 6 is not out of the question.

The first 20 games will tell us a lot.

As for the 2013-14 tank, that roster had the makings of a tank, that's true.
But with Jeff Green as the #1 option and Avery Bradley the #2 option, 25 wins was just too many for a roster that weak.

[Curmudgeon]

Unless Houston is willing to discuss Sengun I wouldn't even talk to them about Simons. Forget about White or Pritchard. Now if they want to discuss Hauser for Capela, I might listen.

IMHO the Rockets will likely obtain a servicable FVV replacement from some team in exchange for Adams or Calela, but it won't be Boston.

[redslastlaugh]

Yea, this probably is the most "Godfather" type of offer, probably too rich for Houston but not too outrageous to discuss on realgm, lol

Twitter reporters have said Van Vleet has a trade veto since he would lose his bird rights if he is traded and declines his option. But maybe FVV would approve a trade to Boston, he rehabs this season, and then comes back in 2026-27 on an expiring $25 million to compete for a title with the Jays

For Boston, I think they'd take this Godfather offer (if Houston offered it) and I think the Jays would understand the value. We could lose 2028 first round pick to a Spurs swap and Celts don't have the 2029 first, so if we could add 2 or 3 high value picks, we'd open up so many more options for rebuilding

Plus we'd probably shave a few million of 2025-26 salary cap, maybe opening up more Simons trade possibilities to get under the tax line. FVV in 2026-27 is $5 million less than White and that would be beneficial too from a tax/apron pov.

Also, the Jays are only 28 and 29 and for me, I just am not buying JT + JB + Derrick White is a championship big 3 in 2026-27. But Brad is maybe more committed to this core and might just want to roll with his guys.

And lastly, we are five drafts into Brad's regime and don't yet know if Brad has drafted any good players. If some of Hugo, Walsh, Sheierman, Amari, Shulga show out as rotation level NBA players, that changes the outlook on Derrick White for me because then Jays + White + elite depth, that sounds like it could be a true championship level team.

If none of the picks are gonna be good, cashing in on White now, taking advantage of Houston predicament, is probably the best hope to retool and win another ring with JT

After December 15th:

Derrick White to Houston, Xavier Tillman to 3rd team

to Boston:

Ja'Sean Tate, Fred Van Vleet, 2027 best TWO unprotected firsts of Suns/Nets/Rockets, 2029 first round pick (Rockets/Suns/Mavs)

And what would/could we get in a "God Father like offer" from Houston.. speak now.. I am curious..

Value seems good, possibly a HOU overpay even. But, man, I just don't see a Jay or White going out before the summer of 27 at the earliest. We want to contend 26-27 year and I don't know who you turn around in bring in that allows that. You definitely have the assets, though, so you'd be hoping to use those picks and more to upgrade White by the start of 26-27 season. Possible for sure, but risky.

Next big star that shakes lose, you'd have FVV, above picks, BOS own picks. Hauser and Simons (if at deadline) for salary. You could get someone pretty big for that, possibly anyone on the market. But, then you'd be 3 mega contracts / no depth. IDK, fun to think of, but not sure how you make that work. Plus, I think that one would hit Tatum hard. Everyone else going this summer was rough, but DWhite would be even more so.

[Fierce1]

Let's not forget that if the Celtics take on FVV and his contract for White or Simons, the Cs would not be able to go below the repeater threshold this season.

So that brings us back to the issue of cap flexibility for 2027 and beyond.

[redslastlaugh]

White is $28.1 this year and FVV is $25, so a theoretical straigh up trade would shave $3 million off the bill. Next year FVV is still at $25 and White makes $30 million, so that'd shave $5 million off the cap sheet for 2026-27

We could still try to trade Ant Simons for players making $10 million less and try to get under the tax this season.

Let's not forget that if the Celtics take on FVV and his contract for White or Simons, the Cs would not be able to go below the repeater threshold this season.

So that brings us back to the issue of cap flexibility for 2027 and beyond.

[Curmudgeon]

Let's all come to our senses. FVV is a feisty little guy who has carved out a nice career for an undrafted player but he's at the tail end of it and facing at least a year of rehab. And he's not a particularly good three point shooter when healthy.

Nobody is taking on his $40M under any circumstances, not even for multiple first rounders because the picks will likely be in the 20s. FVV will be waived and stretched before he is traded.

[redslastlaugh]

The upside is that Houston has several first round picks from Brooklyn and Phoenix in future drafts, and we'd hold out for those

Let's all come to our senses. FVV is a feisty little guy who has carved out a nice career for an undrafted player but he's at the tail end of it and facing at least a year of rehab. Nobody is taking on his $40M under any circumstances, not even for multiple first rounders because the picks will likely be in the 20s. FVV will be waived and stretched before he is traded.

[Curmudgeon]

The chance that any of those picks will produce a player as good as White or Pritchard is virtually nil. And if you want to convince Tatum coming off his torn achilles that a rebuild with young players is a good idea and that he should stick around for it... well, be my guest.

[Riverwalk2021]

Luckily Brad is the GM and not some of these posters. White isn't going anywhere. He has gotten better every season in Boston and his game will age very well because he relies a lot more on instincts, fundamentals and IQ than explosiveness.

[redslastlaugh]

White's been a great Celtic on and off the court but I think we fans overrate him a bit.
I don't think White has gotten better every year. I think he was better in 2023-24 than he was last year, and if you look at his on/offs from the playoffs the Celts were a good bit better with Derrick off the court last year.

I wouldn't want to trade him, but if Brad was presented with a "Godfather" type of offer, I think he'd be nuts to turn it down. I dont think any team will make a Godfather offer though, so I don't expect White will be traded.

Luckily Brad is the GM and not some of these posters. White isn't going anywhere. He has gotten better every season in Boston and his game will age very well because he relies a lot more on instincts, fundamentals and IQ than explosiveness.

[Fierce1]

White is $28.1 this year and FVV is $25, so a theoretical straigh up trade would shave $3 million off the bill. Next year FVV is still at $25 and White makes $30 million, so that'd shave $5 million off the cap sheet for 2026-27

We could still try to trade Ant Simons for players making $10 million less and try to get under the tax this season.

Let's not forget that if the Celtics take on FVV and his contract for White or Simons, the Cs would not be able to go below the repeater threshold this season.

So that brings us back to the issue of cap flexibility for 2027 and beyond.

That would decimate the roster for this season.

That's an absolute tank job.

No way Brad resorts to that just for draft picks.

There is a core in place right now.
Removing White means the Cs will start from scratch to find another championship caliber supporting cast for the Jays.