Gordon Hayward Thread

[AlCelticFan]

I thought the sky had fallen, the sun had blown up, and we'd reached the heat death of the universe with Gordon's shot never ever possibly coming back.

OR it takes awhile to come back from a horrific injury.

But he is ridiculously inconsistent. He had zero points last game then 35 this game. His inconsistency is mind blowing.

Morris has easily been playing better than Hayward all season but has he dropped 35? No. But on the other hand has he scored absolutely zero? Doubt it, or has he dropped 5 or 6 point games regularly? No.

Is Hayward right now the most random, inconsistent player in the league? Serious question.

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Inconsistency makes a lot of sense though. He's trying to find his groove again, and that means a certain amount of trial and error and searching, etc. No slight to Morris though, who is killing it.

[ddb]

Okay, I don't want Hayward traded anymore lol. But PLEASE....more of this from Hayward

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You went off the deep-end there for a bit. Glad to have you back!

It worked!!! I should keep talking trash

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[Squigglepuffin]

I thought the sky had fallen, the sun had blown up, and we'd reached the heat death of the universe with Gordon's shot never ever possibly coming back.

OR it takes awhile to come back from a horrific injury.

But he is ridiculously inconsistent. He had zero points last game then 35 this game. His inconsistency is mind blowing.

Morris has easily been playing better than Hayward all season but has he dropped 35? No. But on the other hand has he scored absolutely zero? Doubt it, or has he dropped 5 or 6 point games regularly? No.

Is Hayward right now the most random, inconsistent player in the league? Serious question.

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Inconsistency makes a lot of sense though. He's trying to find his groove again, and that means a certain amount of trial and error and searching, etc. No slight to Morris though, who is killing it.

A little off topic but since you bring up how well Morris is playing do you think Danny trades his expiring contact at the trade deadline?

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[SilverQuick]

I'd like the celtics to play 40 more times with wolves, so Hayward would average 30 ppg

[return2glory]

Great game by Hayward. He played like the all star he is. 3 dunks in the game. He moved great and got his shot with ease.

Much needed for Hayward and the Celtics fan base.

I’m not going to get too excited yet. Still being patient with Hayward and looking for improvements around February and March.

[31to6]

But he is ridiculously inconsistent. He had zero points last game then 35 this game. His inconsistency is mind blowing.

Morris has easily been playing better than Hayward all season but has he dropped 35? No. But on the other hand has he scored absolutely zero? Doubt it, or has he dropped 5 or 6 point games regularly? No.

Is Hayward right now the most random, inconsistent player in the league? Serious question.

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Is any other former All-Star coming back from a horrific injury on a roster overstuffed with repetitive wings?

What does that have to do with anything? He's getting playing time and the opportunity to produce, but generally speaking he just isn't.

I honestly think his athleticism will never be what it once was and that Stevens should use him in a similar way he used Isaiah Thomas to get the best results on offense for him - that is run multiple screens for him to run off before getting the ball.

But then Hayward has to step up as well by increasing his percentage of shots made. His shooting has been awful, no way around it

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it has everything to do with everything, but whatever you do impatient you.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Hayward is trying to find a grove while coming off the bench taking limited amount of shots. I would eventually like to see him replace Morris again in the starting line up, Morris has been great but I think he would be just as effective coming off the bench.

I just don’t think Hayward plays well off the bench seems like it takes him awhile to get into the flow of game.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Hayward is trying to find a grove while coming off the bench taking limited amount of shots. I would eventually like to see him replace Morris again in the starting line up, Morris has been great but I think he would be just as effective coming off the bench.

I just don’t think Hayward plays well off the bench seems like it takes him awhile to get into the flow of game.

Agreed. Hayward is a starter coming off the bench and Morris is a bench guy starting. It's working for now, but it's not going to be sustainable for the long term. Eventually it should correct itself and the team will be all the better for it.

[cloverleaf]

Mind you, Gordo has been blessed with great talent and worked himself into a world-class athlete.

But should it take an 0-whatever night for him to go to the gym and shoot for 45 minutes on an off day? His comments seem to suggest that he expected that would help his shooting, but it's not an everyday routine as is?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2019/01/02/celtics-get-big-lift-from-gordon-hayward-victory/YakQVD0utC4OXsGsQutUeK/story.html?s_campaign=bdc:globewell:trending&s_campaign=bdc:globewell:trending#comments

[Valid]

But he is ridiculously inconsistent. He had zero points last game then 35 this game. His inconsistency is mind blowing.

Morris has easily been playing better than Hayward all season but has he dropped 35? No. But on the other hand has he scored absolutely zero? Doubt it, or has he dropped 5 or 6 point games regularly? No.

Is Hayward right now the most random, inconsistent player in the league? Serious question.

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Is any other former All-Star coming back from a horrific injury on a roster overstuffed with repetitive wings?

What does that have to do with anything? He's getting playing time and the opportunity to produce, but generally speaking he just isn't.

I honestly think his athleticism will never be what it once was and that Stevens should use him in a similar way he used Isaiah Thomas to get the best results on offense for him - that is run multiple screens for him to run off before getting the ball.

But then Hayward has to step up as well by increasing his percentage of shots made. His shooting has been awful, no way around it

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Lol did you seriously just say this?

[soxfan2003]

If one takes Hayward at his word and I have no reason not to do so, he should be at least a little better by the end of the season barring a new injury.

His quote of lateral mobility being not too far off pre injury but vertically still not there and ankle still sore is probably 100% true. In short, getting better physically but slowly. Good news is playoffs are still a long way off so he has plenty of time to get incrementally better.

I am not worried about Celtics regular season record. I just want everyone that is a rotation player relatively healthy by playoff time.

[itrsteve]

Hayward's shooting inconsistency should be chalked up to a mental block. Imagine how rough it must be to have your game scrutinized to all hell by every talking head/analyst? Imagine leaving your team with all the hype and hysteria surrounding it only to have an injury rob you 5 minutes into the season? Imagine being a Boston Celtic for 18 months and not giving the city the contributions that you know you're capable of? Imagine looking at your IG posts with endless trolls claiming that you should be traded? Now imagine coming off the bench and bricking your first two or three limited touches only to hear the disappointing "ahhhh" from the crowd?

Those two T-wolves games (which I chalk up to a coincidence) were clearly games where he was able to get out of his own head and let the game come to him... This won't be the end of his rough games, but each time this happens he gets a taste and a dose of relief that he is able to deliver and little by little his confidence will return, we should all relish in that.

Stand by Hayward, we have a star in the ranks and it's going to sh*t on everybody's parade when he finally comes back to form.

[ConstableGeneva]

I stand by my preseason prediction -- Gordon's gonna be our 2nd most valuable overall player come playoff time. I've been wrong a thousand times in this forum before so what's another one. He won't be Utah 2017 playoffs Gordon but he'll be pretty damn good come postseason. Once he can shoot the long ball with more consistency and he gets a bit of his burst back on those drives, he'll be more of a threat as a playmaker.

Only took him an hour and change to make my prognostication look good...

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[Roland2000]

It all just makes sense. I am sure up until now, Hayward has been playing with a bit of reserve. The first part of the season for him was just to get time in on the court and not get hurt. At some point though, he's going to play with passion and abandon.

I think he's done an excellent job so far in terms of playing just well enough and feeling his way through. He is right on schedule.

[ConstableGeneva]

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/03/bulpett-gordon-hayward-needs-to-be-judged-on-a-celtic-scale/

[K For Three]

My aunt had asked my mom who I was into most on the Celtics. So she told her Kyrie Irving. And so I opened my gift from my aunt today and got this:

https://www.fansedge.com/Womens_Fanatics_Branded_Gordon_Hayward_Black_Boston_Celtics_Team_Idol_Name_And_Number_Long_Sleeve_V-Neck_T-Shirt/t-14921664+o-2403+d-58001943+f-3820806+z-9-900529797?utm_medium=cse&_s=csefe12-pla-id&sku=9945593&targetid=pla-72891432029&gclid=CjwKCAiAx4fhBRB6EiwA3cV4KsCz9gCaA0nkduJl0MTfj5MqJCQYsqU8mxksJMfMVB7ClmYcqaLMUhoC8BkQAvD_BwE


I can dig it. To prove how unselfish I am with the Celtics I am going to spread the wealth and start wearing Gordon now too.

I also take my aunt mistaking Kyrie for Gordon as a sign that Gordon is going to explode at some point this season.

I told you!!!!

[fallguy]

The lesson of this thread and the Jaylen thread and every other thread is that it's a long season and people lose their **** over the first two months every goddamn year.

[ddb]

I'd say the most intriguing sign so far on the season is Haywards back to back good games. He's had solid games here and there, but stringing together good games hasn't happened yet. 35pt game VS Minny, 16pt 10 Reb 8 assist game against Dallas. Both wins.
I LIKE it!! He needs to have another good performance against BK and I'll really start feeling good about where he's at.

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[mbsnmisc]

I have noticed he gets decent lift off of two feet. His problem has been jumping off of one foot.

[brackdan70]

Whether he makes shots or not he is generally a very good decision maker, moves effectively without the ball and aids spacing, great passer and rebounder as well. He can shoot sub .400 and have a positive impact.