2019 NBA draft

[Andrew McCeltic]

If we manage to keep Jaylen, and have a starting 5 of Kyrie, Jaylen, a fully back Hayward, Davis, and Horford, all I can say is the league is in trouble. Would be shocked if we didn't win the title with starters like that.

It would be easy.

If not Doumbouya is still my guy. I'm on record with wanting him regardless of what it takes.

Whether we get Davis or not, this could be a big draft for us - two of Keldon Johnson, Okpala, and Doumbouya esp. would be a haul.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

A simulated lottery, Boston at picks 4 and 9. Thought this was a fun and unexpected result. Here is the lotto picks mock.



1. Atlanta Zion Williamson


2. Chicago Ja Morant


3. Phoenix RJ Barrett


4. Boston DeAndre Hunter


5. New York Jarrett Culver


6. Cleveland Bol Bol


7. Washington Darius Garland


8. New Orleans Coby White


9. Boston Cameron Reddish


10. Atlanta Jaxson Hayes


11. Minnesota Nickeil Alexander-Walker


12. LA Lakers Brandon Clarke


13. Charlotte Sekou Doumbouya


14. Miami Rui Hachimura


That would be a crazy draft to see. Hawks win Zion, then with the Dallas pick add an athletic center. They are suddenly big and popular with fans.

Bulls don't have a specific need, with Porter and Lavine around in the spot Barrett would play, so they go point guard. Suns take Barrett, and try to figure out their roster afterwards.

Boston at 4, and trade is likely, but this is a pick. Boston go with the Kawhi-potential of Hunter. Garland, which might mean two point guards leave as free agents, and Bol Bol might be other options.

Knicks are sad, take a shooting guard. Cavs are confused, so they go the high-risk and maybe high-reward pick. Combo White should be good next to combo Jrue.

The Celtics again. They get the top high school prospect, someone who was supposed to be a point guard like Simmons but with a three-point shot, and able to play three other positions. Ainge has done that before, saying the player was a great pick due to their high school potential and not what they did in college.

Hawks get a tall center, Minnesota gets a shooter to space the floor. Lakers need help now, and a shooter would work but instead they get older Clarke who can play right away and help inside. Hornets get a project, and they have French-speakers so it is a good spot for the project, while Miami add a tweener scorer to some of their other tweeners.

Maybe 3% chance of the above happening?

Two other firsts add a big and a point guard. Maybe Jerome and Fernando, or Gafford and Bowman.

Obviously pick 2 or 3 is much better, and saving the Memphis pick for next year might help more, which would mean the really unlikely result of Boston picking 2 and Memphis picking 4.



Draft workouts haven't had anyone big in so far. C Johnson, best prospect the past week or two.


The toilet codeword name did visit?

Tres Tinkle.


At forward, for your Boston Celtics, Tres Tinkle!


For the second rounder, Tres Tinkle would not be a bad choice.

Tres Tinkle!

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

More news, those who will attend the draft camp. Not calling it a "combine", no wheat harvesting.

Matisse Thybulle not turning up, in case someone asks him to shoot the ball. Rui is not going too, so either a secret promise or he is worried about bad measurements.





Shamorie Ponds is going. He might have had a Celtics workout already?

[Diamondman07]

In my fantasy world, Kings land in at #2, and Memphis pick doesn’t come to Boston.

Boston takes Ja Morant and lets Kyrie run and hide in KD or Lebrons shadow

[chrisab123]

In my fantasy world, Kings land in at #2, and Memphis pick doesn’t come to Boston.

Boston takes Ja Morant and lets Kyrie run and hide in KD or Lebrons shadow

Honestly this is probably the best case scenario. However in this one the #2 would probably go to NO.

[Almeida]

Single sim of the day.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Celtics are scouting talent like there are five rounds in the draft, and not that they have three or four first rounders.


Harry Froling?

Jaylen Nowell?

Jarrell Brantley?

Anthony Lamb?

Joe Wieskamp?


Some of their predraft workouts. Put your hand up if you have heard of all those players.

Below is a list of expected attendees at the 2019 NBA G League Elite Camp.

NBA Draft-Eligible Players – Player (College/Club)
Battle, Tyus (Syracuse) Jeffries, DaQuan (Tulsa)
Boatwright, Bennie (USC) Konate, Sagaba (West Virginia)
Booth, Phil (Villanova) Maker, Matur (Mississauga Prep (Canada)/Zlatorog (Slovenia))
Brissett, Oshae (Syracuse) Mann, Terance (Florida State)
Brown, Bryce (Auburn) Martin, Caleb (Nevada)
Cheatham, Zylan (Arizona State) Martin, Cody (Nevada)
Clemons, Chris (Campbell) Maye, Luke (North Carolina)
Coffey, Amir (Minnesota) Mourning, Trey (Georgetown)
Cook, Tyler (Iowa) Nembhard, Andrew (Florida)
Cumberland, Jarron (Cincinnati) Palmer Jr., James (Nebraska)
Dawkins, Aubrey (Central Florida) Perkins, Josh (Gonzaga)
DeLaurier, Javin (Duke) Perry, Reggie (Mississippi State)
Diakite, Mamadi (Virginia) Pickett, Jalen (Siena)
Elleby, CJ (Washington State) Powell, Myles (Seton Hall)
Fall, Tacko (Central Florida) Robinson, Justin (Virginia Tech)
Franks, Robert (Washington State) Shayok, Marial (Iowa State)
Harper, Jared (Auburn) Strus, Max (DePaul)
Happ, Ethan (Wisconsin) Wigginton, Lindell (Iowa State)
Hernandez, Dewan (Miami) Wooten, Kenny (Oregon)
Hinton, Amir (Shaw (NC)) Wright-Foreman, Justin (Hofstra)

Tacko, the best option from the above. Celtics already had a workout with Wright-Foreman and Robinson.


One simulated lottery, Phoenix, New York, Chicago, Memphis, Cleveland.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Thybulle rumored to have a promise from Presti, which means we could take him at 20.. would love to have another defensive savant if we’re losing Marcus Heart..

If we jump into the top 4 and Morant is gone, I think we take Coby White to develop as a backup combo guard.. if we get 9, unless there’s a great slider, I think it’s Keldon Johnson..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Johnson, Okpala, Doumbouya, Thybulle, Bitadze are at the top of my board for where we’re likely to pick - maybe Louis King and Nazr Reid at 22.. Reddish, Deandre Hunter and Bruno Fernando are interesting if they slide..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Hayes, too, a slighter Williams with more potential as a shooter..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Hoping to hear more about Sekou because his transition dominance makes him look like a less freakish Giannis, and the rest of his game makes him look like Jaylen Brown with more size - fundamentals need tightening and refinement - but his instincts for moving in space to get past and around defenders are closer to Tatum’s - as a project, if he checks out under more scrutiny, he’s really interesting.

[threrf23]

Hoping to hear more about Sekou because his transition dominance makes him look like a less freakish Giannis, and the rest of his game makes him look like Jaylen Brown with more size - fundamentals need tightening and refinement - but his instincts for moving in space to get past and around defenders are closer to Tatum’s - as a project, if he checks out under more scrutiny, he’s really interesting.

His stats are rather unimpressive, compared to guys like Damien Inglis and Yabu (who played in the same league).

Doumbaya at 18, per 36:

14.1 pts
6.3 reb
1.6 ast
1.5 stl
0.9 blk
2.3 tov
4.9 pf
49% fg
32% 3p
74% FT

Yabu at 20, per 36:

14.4 pts
8.6 reb
1.3 ast
1.4 stl
0.6 blk
2.0 tov
3.1 pf
54% fg
43% 3p
77% FT

Inglis at 18, per 36:

10.7 pts
8.4 reb
2.4 ast
1.4 stl
0.3 blk
2.8 tov
2.8 pf
50% fg
39% 3p
72% FT

ETA - Rudy Gobert at 19 for added measure:

10.9 pts
10.1 reb
0.4 ast
0.9 stl
3.4 blk
2.3 tov
4.4 pf
74% fg
70% FT

[No-Man]

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lol Tacko is at the bottom of that group, and none of the guys you mentioned there are unknown (a bunch are likely returning to school though), the top ones are;

DaQuan Jeffries
Terance Mann
Reggie Perry
Joe Wieskamp
Andrew Nembhard
Jalen Pickett
Cody Martin
Sagaba Konate
Kenny Wooten
Justin Robinson

[Andrew McCeltic]

Hoping to hear more about Sekou because his transition dominance makes him look like a less freakish Giannis, and the rest of his game makes him look like Jaylen Brown with more size - fundamentals need tightening and refinement - but his instincts for moving in space to get past and around defenders are closer to Tatum’s - as a project, if he checks out under more scrutiny, he’s really interesting.

His stats are rather unimpressive, compared to guys like Damien Inglis and Yabu (who played in the same league).

You are comparing him as an 18yo, though - development can happen in spurts for younger players.. When I said his instincts are 'closer to Tatum's', tbc, I mean on a spectrum, not that he's like Tatum - but he's much much more fluid and instinctive in transition than Jaylen Brown, who's excelled initially mostly because of his athleticism. Tough to tell from the level of play, though..

[Bill Lumbergh]

I'm liking Daniel Gafford at 20 or 22. Really bouncy athletic big. Might be even more athletic than Timelord, with a better motor. Developmental big, but he's got physical tools. Basically a shot blocker and dunker at this point. Anyway, interesting prospect.

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[Andrew McCeltic]

Idk, Gafford reminds me of Samuel Dalembert - pogo stick who can dunk, block and board, but kind of clumsy about it and can't do anything else. Could be wrong. Williams, though, has much much better defensive instincts.

What I'm wondering is what we do if Bruno Fernando is on the board at 14. I think Memphis, if they have their pick, takes him at 8.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Idk, Gafford reminds me of Samuel Dalembert - pogo stick who can dunk, block and board, but kind of clumsy about it and can't do anything else. Could be wrong. Williams, though, has much much better defensive instincts.

What I'm wondering is what we do if Bruno Fernando is on the board at 14. I think Memphis, if they have their pick, takes him at 8.

Hmmm. He doesn't look clumsy at all to me. Agree that what he does at this point is block shots and dunk, like Timelord. He does seem like he's got a higher motor than Williams to me. All depends on how the FO feels about Williams and how they project him to develop. I also like Brandon Clarke in a similar way. More of an SF/SG in him though. Heck of a defender/shot blocker/dunker, but in a smaller package. Also a high motor guy.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Idk, Gafford reminds me of Samuel Dalembert - pogo stick who can dunk, block and board, but kind of clumsy about it and can't do anything else. Could be wrong. Williams, though, has much much better defensive instincts.

What I'm wondering is what we do if Bruno Fernando is on the board at 14. I think Memphis, if they have their pick, takes him at 8.

Hmmm. He doesn't look clumsy at all to me. Agree that what he does at this point is block shots and dunk, like Timelord. He does seem like he's got a higher motor than Williams to me. All depends on how the FO feels about Williams and how they project him to develop. I also like Brandon Clarke in a similar way. More of an SF/SG in him though. Heck of a defender/shot blocker/dunker, but in a smaller package. Also a high motor guy.

I guess a better word for what I mean would be “stiff” than clumsy - like, he gets the stats and flashy dunks and blocks, but he doesn’t look to be as physically dominant as a Drummond or DeAndre Jordan, or to be able to fill out the rest of his game.

Williams’ motor on defense to me looks worse than it is because he’s so long, athletic and quick that he doesn’t have to move far to get in position to help - it’s tougher for players like that to learn how and when to be in motion, without wasting motion - Williams is usually in position to block a shot or grab a rebound already, bc of his physical attributes..

Gafford’s energy is good, though - a young, springier Varejao could be a comp, too..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Or - if not stiff - jerky

[Kalela]

Do protected picks like the Memphis pick convey before or after the lottery? Does what I am asking make sense?