Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019

[Curmudgeon]

It's most likely Rubio, with Hayward going back to Utah. You heard it here first, and you do not have to be an insider to figure it out.
Mike Conley is also a possibility, but why would the Grizz want Hayward? They are in complete rebuild mode.

Utah may not think Hayward can return to pre-injury form, but even at his current level he's better than Joe Ingles or Jae Crowder, and the fans would welcome him back with open arms. And it's better than losing Rubio for nothing.

Rubio is a free agent and he sucks

Sign and trade my friend, sign and trade. Rubio can get the same deal as he could get as a free agent and Utah doesn't lose him for nothing. They don't plan to resign him--that has been widely reported.

If you think he sucks, that's your perogative. But guess what: Hayward sucks too.

[K For Three]

This thread is off the rails now lol.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Definitely needs sweeteners to level it out, I was doing mainly salary. Knicks depending on other transactions occurring (AD, KD) either need to keep salary (for AD) or shed a little (to give KD & Kyrie full maxes). Sending out DSJ for room to fully max KD & Kyrie and maybe getting a late first for future trades is a pretty good deal for the Knicks.

I don't wanna give MEM their pick back - Conley probably doesn't pull that. But the rest are up for grabs.

If they're dealing for Conley, I suspect they're dealing for AD too. Seems they won't have a whole lot to offer MEM, as they won't want Horford, Hayward or a Morris S&T, and AD probably costs Tatum, Smart, 14, 22 and Williams.

Thank you for brining it back to basketball.

Yeah if we're searching for an overpaid old PG from the West that tells me Ainge is thinking at least 2 things.

1) Irving is **** and not coming back

2) The young kids are not alright, I'd rather have a 1 year run with a vet PG and AD and signing some ring chasers.

Horford, AD, Hayward, Brown and Conley would be formidable, but quite a roll of the dice... AD, Conley and Horford could all walk the next season...

[djFan71]

Not sure why NYK would send out DSJ, but can see a deal excluding DSJ, if Boston gives Memphis their pick back, and absorbs Conley's deal.

Definitely needs sweeteners to level it out, I was doing mainly salary. Knicks depending on other transactions occurring (AD, KD) either need to keep salary (for AD) or shed a little (to give KD & Kyrie full maxes). Sending out DSJ for room to fully max KD & Kyrie and maybe getting a late first for future trades is a pretty good deal for the Knicks.

I don't wanna give MEM their pick back - Conley probably doesn't pull that. But the rest are up for grabs.

If they're dealing for Conley, I suspect they're dealing for AD too. Seems they won't have a whole lot to offer MEM, as they won't want Horford, Hayward or a Morris S&T, and AD probably costs Tatum, Smart, 14, 22 and Williams.

I dunno. Dealing for Conley seems like a stay relevant with Horford & Hayward move, not a convince AD to stay move. But, yeah, if we're doing AD as well, it kinda falls apart on salary since we don't have enough to go out for BOTH of them without Horford or Hayward. I just don't see the point of that.

Conley, Brown, Tatum, Horford, Baynes
Smart, Hayward, MLE, Williams
Picks.

That's a super-solid, super-Brad team. If it's AD, it's worse:

Conley, Brown, Hayward or Horfod, AD, Baynes
MLE, Williams

Just don't see that making AD stay.

[MagicBagley18]

It's most likely Rubio, with Hayward going back to Utah. You heard it here first, and you do not have to be an insider to figure it out.
Mike Conley is also a possibility, but why would the Grizz want Hayward? They are in complete rebuild mode.

Utah may not think Hayward can return to pre-injury form, but even at his current level he's better than Joe Ingles or Jae Crowder, and the fans would welcome him back with open arms. And it's better than losing Rubio for nothing.

Rubio is a free agent and he sucks

Sign and trade my friend, sign and trade. Rubio can get the same deal as he could get as a free agent and Utah doesn't lose him for nothing. They don't plan to resign him--that has been widely reported.

If you think he sucks, that's your perogative. But guess what: Hayward sucks too.

That’s great Hayward sucks wtf do I care....And as bad as he is you don’t sell him off now when his value is toilet water for Ricky Rubio. You heard it here first.

[Curmudgeon]

Conley makes 30M. What salary are you sending back to Memphis to make the deal work? Think before you post.

[djFan71]

Damn, someone is getting good at trade scenarios.

Cripes, I better be by now with how much time I waste on them.

On that note: I'm sorry I didn't get back to you on that trade stuff the other night, man. My cat passed away recently, **** has been weird.

No worries, that sucks man. Condolences.

[djFan71]

Conley makes 30M. What salary are you sending back to Memphis to make the deal work? Think before you post.

Maybe read other posts before you post??? It's been discussed.

[MagicBagley18]

Conley makes 30M. What salary are you sending back to Memphis to make the deal work? Think before you post.

Read the post....it’s already been laid out it could be a sign and trade involving kyrie dopey

[truth18]

Not sure why NYK would send out DSJ, but can see a deal excluding DSJ, if Boston gives Memphis their pick back, and absorbs Conley's deal.

Definitely needs sweeteners to level it out, I was doing mainly salary. Knicks depending on other transactions occurring (AD, KD) either need to keep salary (for AD) or shed a little (to give KD & Kyrie full maxes). Sending out DSJ for room to fully max KD & Kyrie and maybe getting a late first for future trades is a pretty good deal for the Knicks.

I don't wanna give MEM their pick back - Conley probably doesn't pull that. But the rest are up for grabs.

If they're dealing for Conley, I suspect they're dealing for AD too. Seems they won't have a whole lot to offer MEM, as they won't want Horford, Hayward or a Morris S&T, and AD probably costs Tatum, Smart, 14, 22 and Williams.

Can taking on Solomon Hill significantly help any of this or entice them to take Hayward?

This thread is off the rails now lol.

I hate Rubio too .

[StojkoVrankovic]

Conley makes 30M. What salary are you sending back to Memphis to make the deal work? Think before you post.

You first

[Curmudgeon]

Conley makes 30M. What salary are you sending back to Memphis to make the deal work? Think before you post.

Read the post....it’s already been laid out it could be a sign and trade involving kyrie dopey

Lay it out for me again. So you want to give up Marcus Smart before you give up Hayward? LOL.
And so you think Kyrie is going to agree to 4 years of exile in Memphis? LOL.
I suppose there could be some wild three-way in which Kyrie goes to the Lakers and Ball, etc. goes to Memphis, but why would the Lakers do that? They are out to get AD, not Kyrie.

[MagicBagley18]

Conley makes 30M. What salary are you sending back to Memphis to make the deal work? Think before you post.

Read the post....it’s already been laid out it could be a sign and trade involving kyrie dopey

Lay it out for me again. So you want to give up Marcus Smart before you give up Hayward? LOL.
And so you think Kyrie is going to agree to 4 years of exile in Memphis? LOL.
I suppose there could be some wild three-way in which Kyrie goes to the Lakers and Ball, etc. goes to Memphis, but why would the Lakers do that? They are out to get AD, not Kyrie.

Jesus Christ.....

[Edug27]

This thread is off the rails now lol.

Blame insiders and Mike Conley.

[Curmudgeon]

I'm not interested in reading stupid trade proposals that don't work under the CBA or in real life. Tell me how the Celtics acquire Conley without giving up Hayward in any sort of realistic deal. They can't.

[MagicBagley18]

I'm not interested in reading stupid trade proposals that don't work under the CBA or in real life. Tell me how the Celtics acquire Conley without giving up Hayward in any sort of realistic deal. They can't.

Says the guy who laid out quite possibly the only stupid trade proposal talked about since reload dropped info.....pot meet kettle

[truth18]

Jesus Christ.....

*jeezum crow

[CelticFaninLBC]

Definitely needs sweeteners to level it out, I was doing mainly salary. Knicks depending on other transactions occurring (AD, KD) either need to keep salary (for AD) or shed a little (to give KD & Kyrie full maxes). Sending out DSJ for room to fully max KD & Kyrie and maybe getting a late first for future trades is a pretty good deal for the Knicks.

I don't wanna give MEM their pick back - Conley probably doesn't pull that. But the rest are up for grabs.

If they're dealing for Conley, I suspect they're dealing for AD too. Seems they won't have a whole lot to offer MEM, as they won't want Horford, Hayward or a Morris S&T, and AD probably costs Tatum, Smart, 14, 22 and Williams.

I dunno. Dealing for Conley seems like a stay relevant with Horford & Hayward move, not a convince AD to stay move. But, yeah, if we're doing AD as well, it kinda falls apart on salary since we don't have enough to go out for BOTH of them without Horford or Hayward. I just don't see the point of that.

Conley, Brown, Tatum, Horford, Baynes
Smart, Hayward, MLE, Williams
Picks.

That's a super-solid, super-Brad team. If it's AD, it's worse:

Conley, Brown, Hayward or Horfod, AD, Baynes
MLE, Williams

Just don't see that making AD stay.

Doesnt this work?

Tatum, Smart, 14, 22, and William's works for AD.. iirc they need $25 mil. to match.

It seems they dont need to move Hayward if they do a Kyrie S&T.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Definitely needs sweeteners to level it out, I was doing mainly salary. Knicks depending on other transactions occurring (AD, KD) either need to keep salary (for AD) or shed a little (to give KD & Kyrie full maxes). Sending out DSJ for room to fully max KD & Kyrie and maybe getting a late first for future trades is a pretty good deal for the Knicks.

I don't wanna give MEM their pick back - Conley probably doesn't pull that. But the rest are up for grabs.

If they're dealing for Conley, I suspect they're dealing for AD too. Seems they won't have a whole lot to offer MEM, as they won't want Horford, Hayward or a Morris S&T, and AD probably costs Tatum, Smart, 14, 22 and Williams.

Can taking on Solomon Hill significantly help any of this or entice them to take Hayward?

This thread is off the rails now lol.

I hate Rubio too .

Seems a 3rd team like HOU is needed for Hayward.

[truth18]

This thread is off the rails now lol.

Blame insiders and Mike Conley.