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Walsh had a really nice overall game. I was focused on his shooting, but there are a couple of really nice passes in that clip, plus some disruptive defense, which will be his calling card if he wants minutes.

Jordan is still pretty raw, but can he get those Brissett minutes? Oshae didn't get regular minutes but filled a strategic need at times to come in with energy and defense, take the open shot.

Like most here, I've been bearish on Walsh after summer league. He just needs to take the next step and could be that energy guy, not in regular rotation, but coming in for spot minutes during regular season. The Garden fans already love him too.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

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Walsh had a really nice overall game. I was focused on his shooting, but there are a couple of really nice passes in that clip, plus some disruptive defense, which will be his calling card if he wants minutes.

Jordan is still pretty raw, but can he get those Brissett minutes? Oshae didn't get regular minutes but filled a strategic need at times to come in with energy and defense, take the open shot.

Like most here, I've been bearish on Walsh after summer league. He just needs to take the next step and could be that energy guy, not in regular rotation, but coming in for spot minutes during regular season. The Garden fans already love him too.


I've advocated for continuing to give Walsh a lane to develop as a playmaker. It's a bit loosey-goosey at times but give him some time AND DIRECTION to tighten it up in G-league. I still say Springer is the best first option to test in a Brissett-like energy/hustle role. Walsh, IMO, would need to show to be a stronger scorer to make up for his still wiry physique on defense. I did not get the impression he has added notable bulk in the offseason.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#724 » by phincsfan » Mon Oct 7, 2024 2:16 pm

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Walsh had a really nice overall game. I was focused on his shooting, but there are a couple of really nice passes in that clip, plus some disruptive defense, which will be his calling card if he wants minutes.

Jordan is still pretty raw, but can he get those Brissett minutes? Oshae didn't get regular minutes but filled a strategic need at times to come in with energy and defense, take the open shot.

Like most here, I've been bearish on Walsh after summer league. He just needs to take the next step and could be that energy guy, not in regular rotation, but coming in for spot minutes during regular season. The Garden fans already love him too.


I've advocated for continuing to give Walsh a lane to develop as a playmaker. It's a bit loosey-goosey at times but give him some time AND DIRECTION to tighten it up in G-league. I still say Springer is the best first option to test in a Brissett-like energy/hustle role. Walsh, IMO, would need to show to be a stronger scorer to make up for his still wiry physique on defense. I did not get the impression he has added notable bulk in the offseason.



I think he's gonna be in the 10/11 roster spot discussion. He's clearly in more favor than Lonnie. Summer league made me believe that the raw, 18 year old project wasn't the way to go moving forward in future drafts but even though it's been just two games the kid has made an impression. I don't think the G-League can squeeze anymore out of him but an overgrown ego. I say let him play with the big club all year, learn how to be a pro in the big city and make the most out of the minutes he gets.

If Walker gets offered a G-League spot in Maine and Walsh stays with the big club? That would be a big confidence booster for him, especially if he gets minutes. This is Brad's highest draft pick and biggest project as a gm.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#725 » by 31to6 » Mon Oct 7, 2024 6:24 pm

Jordan Walsh is going to infuse his championship DNA into the Celtics. You love to see it
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Walsh is the first and only 2023 draftee with an NBA championship. Won one before Wemby. Pfft.

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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#727 » by Dogen » Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:46 pm

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Walsh had a really nice overall game. I was focused on his shooting, but there are a couple of really nice passes in that clip, plus some disruptive defense, which will be his calling card if he wants minutes.

Jordan is still pretty raw, but can he get those Brissett minutes? Oshae didn't get regular minutes but filled a strategic need at times to come in with energy and defense, take the open shot.

Like most here, I've been bearish on Walsh after summer league. He just needs to take the next step and could be that energy guy, not in regular rotation, but coming in for spot minutes during regular season. The Garden fans already love him too.


I've advocated for continuing to give Walsh a lane to develop as a playmaker. It's a bit loosey-goosey at times but give him some time AND DIRECTION to tighten it up in G-league. I still say Springer is the best first option to test in a Brissett-like energy/hustle role. Walsh, IMO, would need to show to be a stronger scorer to make up for his still wiry physique on defense. I did not get the impression he has added notable bulk in the offseason.



I think he's gonna be in the 10/11 roster spot discussion. He's clearly in more favor than Lonnie. Summer league made me believe that the raw, 18 year old project wasn't the way to go moving forward in future drafts but even though it's been just two games the kid has made an impression. I don't think the G-League can squeeze anymore out of him but an overgrown ego. I say let him play with the big club all year, learn how to be a pro in the big city and make the most out of the minutes he gets.

If Walker gets offered a G-League spot in Maine and Walsh stays with the big club? That would be a big confidence booster for him, especially if he gets minutes. This is Brad's highest draft pick and biggest project as a gm.


Highest draft pick until Baylor Scheierman, you mean. But I agree with your points about playing with the big club. I think his confidence and experience will grow more as a young player on a deep bench position with the Celtics than as a starter in Maine.

I get some Timelord vibes from Walsh. Like RW, I'm taking his casual southern temperment as indicative of a deeper intelligence. Robert was young and slow out of the gate to, but you could see signs of his court awareness and passing even early on. It took a while for his body to catch up with his mind and make the right reads.

Walsh is a bit like this too. It's not there is not enough going on with him -- It's too much, he's trying to be in several places at once.

Once the game slows down a bit, he'll find his rhythm. The shot should follow suit.

Anyway, this is all eye test stuff. I watch him play, and sometimes I'm leaning in my chair, "No, not that way Jordan!" :lol:

But with some more experience with the team and clear guidance, he could be a super-sub for short stints. Excellent compliment to Hauser and Pritchard if he can find a groove in limited minutes.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#728 » by playa-hater » Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:08 am

31to6 wrote:Jordan Walsh is going to infuse his championship DNA into the Celtics. You love to see it


Fun fact.. Jordan walsh may be the only player to win and lose a championship all in the same year..
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Post#729 » by playa-hater » Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:11 am

I am not sure if it was discussed but are we expecting jordan walsh to be full time on Boston this year??
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#731 » by Dogen » Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:40 pm

playa-hater wrote:I am not sure if it was discussed but are we expecting jordan walsh to be full time on Boston this year??


He's one of the 14 players in the roster, yes, but could spend some time in Maine.

The debate is whether or not he should. For a guy that's going to be maybe 10th, 11th man on the team, we can argue that he'd be better off getting more minutes in Maine, but as I see him in preseason, I'm more convinced he should be with the Boston Celtics to develop his game, even if he doesn't see a lot of floor time.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

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Article is under pay wall. I'll assume that the conclusion is yes, Walsh will be the best defender ever. 8-)
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Post#733 » by Gant » Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:49 pm

Walsh is in competition with Springer, and he's also in competition with the double big lineup with Tillman at PF. This is what preseason is for. So far Walsh has been surprisingly good bouncing back from his summer league woes.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#734 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:11 pm

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Article is under pay wall. I'll assume that the conclusion is yes, Walsh will be the best defender ever. 8-)

“Just defensively, being able to be versatile and guard all five positions,” Mazzulla said. “Offensively, being able to be versatile, knowing what the matchup is, knowing what the coverage is, and knowing what the right solution to the coverage is. And I thought he did a really good job on both ends of the floor (over the first two preseason games).”

It’s not always easy for a young player to do everything the Celtics want from Walsh. To realize the points won’t always come. To prioritize everything but individual statistics. To defend relentlessly on play after play. To stay steady in a league that will regularly test a player’s confidence.

Walsh said the summer league struggles motivated him over the rest of the offseason. He lifted more. He ate better. He put up extra jump shots. During the early part of preseason, he has bounced back. Mazzulla appreciated the way Walsh responded to his wobbly summer league performance.

“He’s approached it with great trust,” Mazzulla said. “I think it’s hard for young guys to trust that the most simplest things, you’ll be rewarded for, and it’s hard to trust that when you’re young. And so I get the perspective that he had, but he’s made a conscious change in his perspective of just trusting that the most important things are the simple things, and that’s what you’re being judged on, and that’s kind of how you grow. And I think the first two games, he’s really shown that.”


Also mentions he's been talking to and watching film on Jrue. His path to getting end-of-bench minutes is via defense/hustle and being the best role player he can be.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

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Article is under pay wall. I'll assume that the conclusion is yes, Walsh will be the best defender ever. 8-)

“Just defensively, being able to be versatile and guard all five positions,” Mazzulla said. “Offensively, being able to be versatile, knowing what the matchup is, knowing what the coverage is, and knowing what the right solution to the coverage is. And I thought he did a really good job on both ends of the floor (over the first two preseason games).”

It’s not always easy for a young player to do everything the Celtics want from Walsh. To realize the points won’t always come. To prioritize everything but individual statistics. To defend relentlessly on play after play. To stay steady in a league that will regularly test a player’s confidence.

Walsh said the summer league struggles motivated him over the rest of the offseason. He lifted more. He ate better. He put up extra jump shots. During the early part of preseason, he has bounced back. Mazzulla appreciated the way Walsh responded to his wobbly summer league performance.

“He’s approached it with great trust,” Mazzulla said. “I think it’s hard for young guys to trust that the most simplest things, you’ll be rewarded for, and it’s hard to trust that when you’re young. And so I get the perspective that he had, but he’s made a conscious change in his perspective of just trusting that the most important things are the simple things, and that’s what you’re being judged on, and that’s kind of how you grow. And I think the first two games, he’s really shown that.”


Also mentions he's been talking to and watching film on Jrue. His path to getting end-of-bench minutes is via defense/hustle and being the best role player he can be.


That's awesome, nice to see Joe say some positive things about Walsh. Thanks for sharing.
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Post#736 » by Dogen » Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:24 pm

Gant wrote:Walsh is in competition with Springer, and he's also in competition with the double big lineup with Tillman at PF. This is what preseason is for. So far Walsh has been surprisingly good bouncing back from his summer league woes.


I consider Walsh and Springer to be sort of a defensive compliment to Hauser and Pritchard.

In fact, I'd like to see a lineup of Tillman, Hauser, Walsh, Pritchard, and Springer out there at some point, even if only when a game is firmly a W.

One of the preseason games had this lineup, if memory serves, for a short stint. Springer was the point, with Pritchard able to roam and get open looks. Hauser also looking for threes. Walsh and Springer swarming on defense. Tillman near the basket, but also a 3pt threat on offense. Generally, a lot of movement.

It's a small lineup, but a pretty balanced one.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#737 » by Bad-Thoma » Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:36 pm

playa-hater wrote:I am not sure if it was discussed but are we expecting jordan walsh to be full time on Boston this year??


I don't expect that, I think he'll be back and forth a lot if the big team is healthy. I think he's got great long term potential for where he was picked but I don't think we'll see much of it this early with the talent ahead of him.
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Post#738 » by Hal14 » Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:48 pm

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Article is under pay wall. I'll assume that the conclusion is yes, Walsh will be the best defender ever. 8-)

“Just defensively, being able to be versatile and guard all five positions,” Mazzulla said. “Offensively, being able to be versatile, knowing what the matchup is, knowing what the coverage is, and knowing what the right solution to the coverage is. And I thought he did a really good job on both ends of the floor (over the first two preseason games).”

It’s not always easy for a young player to do everything the Celtics want from Walsh. To realize the points won’t always come. To prioritize everything but individual statistics. To defend relentlessly on play after play. To stay steady in a league that will regularly test a player’s confidence.

Walsh said the summer league struggles motivated him over the rest of the offseason. He lifted more. He ate better. He put up extra jump shots. During the early part of preseason, he has bounced back. Mazzulla appreciated the way Walsh responded to his wobbly summer league performance.

“He’s approached it with great trust,” Mazzulla said. “I think it’s hard for young guys to trust that the most simplest things, you’ll be rewarded for, and it’s hard to trust that when you’re young. And so I get the perspective that he had, but he’s made a conscious change in his perspective of just trusting that the most important things are the simple things, and that’s what you’re being judged on, and that’s kind of how you grow. And I think the first two games, he’s really shown that.”


Also mentions he's been talking to and watching film on Jrue. His path to getting end-of-bench minutes is via defense/hustle and being the best role player he can be.

Props to Walsh for bouncing back. After such a rough summer league (where you could tell from his body language that the missded shots, turnovers and struggles were really getting to him), things could have easily just kept spriraling downward for him.

But he kept his head up and is bouncing back..and could end up getting some quality rotation mins this season. When just a couple weeks ago i t seemed like he was destined to spend the whole season in Maine and only get some ocassional garbage time mins for the big club..

That shows some mental toughness and grit and desire on his part.

Especially with how young he still is, there's certainly some upside for him to end up being a solid NBA player. I feel like the hit rate for wings with a crazy long wingspan like that is pretty high over these past few years..
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#739 » by playa-hater » Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:58 pm

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playa-hater wrote:I am not sure if it was discussed but are we expecting jordan walsh to be full time on Boston this year??


I don't expect that, I think he'll be back and forth a lot if the big team is healthy. I think he's got great long term potential for where he was picked but I don't think we'll see much of it this early with the talent ahead of him.


Playing devil's advocate, if JW is a potential "11th" man as suggested. With No KP and often no Al, plus the one player that occasional gets a small injury, wouldn't JW be a top 9-10 player on many nights??? and therefore have good use to stay up and learn to "fit in" with our star players etc,, I am not so sure the G-League benefited JW at all and certainly not like it did for JD.

Just thinking out loud on this one.
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Post#740 » by Bad-Thoma » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:01 pm

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playa-hater wrote:I am not sure if it was discussed but are we expecting jordan walsh to be full time on Boston this year??


I don't expect that, I think he'll be back and forth a lot if the big team is healthy. I think he's got great long term potential for where he was picked but I don't think we'll see much of it this early with the talent ahead of him.


Playing devil's advocate, if JW is a potential "11th" man as suggested. With No KP and often no Al, plus the one player that occasional gets a small injury, wouldn't JW be a top 9-10 player on many nights??? and therefore have good use to stay up and learn to "fit in" with our star players etc,, I am not so sure the G-League benefited JW at all and certainly not like it did for JD.

Just thinking out loud on this one.


I'd put him at 12th, probably 11 obvious choices and I'd guess Springer is ahead of him at least early in the year. I think the G-league was beneficial, he was really raw last season and in the preseason looks more settled. I want to see him kill it in the g-league for part of the season before I am optimistic that he'll be ready to contribute on the pro club. Dominating the g-league doesn't guarantee a guy can be a useful pro but not dominating likely means you're warming the bench at best.

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