All things Draft Pick. #3

[canman1971]

Unfrigginbelievable.

We gave them a complete **** pile and won a title, and nearly 1-2 more.

So many bad takes I can't even process right now.

Nearly is nice. The Pats nearly have 7 titles. Doesn't count. As I added, I'd do that trade again for KG and Ray. That was a one off and sustainability is far more important. The Pats have won 2 more titles since then.

Stop comparing the NFL to the NBA. Two totally different leagues that have completely different rules regarding the salary cap. Not to mention you are talking about a 53 man roster to a 15. And they play 16 regular season games to 82 for the NBA and a max 4 playoff games when the NBA could have a max of 28. Totally different world.

[GoCeltics123]

LOL

Unfrigginbelievable.

We gave them a complete **** pile and won a title, and nearly 1-2 more.

So many bad takes I can't even process right now.

I can get questioning this trade but questioning the KG trade is one of the worst takes I've ever seen, period.

Al Jefferson was the biggest asset in that trade and his career derailed with injuries. No one else in the trade did a thing.

Unreal

[BigTrade92]

I get it. You don't want to answer the question because it shows your incessant hyperbole has no credibility. Everyone sees it now. Go back to you're agenda-driven whining.

The answer is, people want the highest pick possible.

Here's what a more acceptable deal would've been, if all we're gonna get are picks

#1 for #3 and the 2018 Lakers pick if it's <4, 2019 Kings pick if > or = 4

I don't have a problem with people being pessimistic about the trade or thinking we should have gotten more.

I'm specifically siting him using the term "protected" pick to try and drive emphasis towards his point when in actuality the protection of the pick is completely counter to his point.

Trump uses the same tactic all the time. If it isn't lying, it's only semantically so.

The point of it all is that it's not a fair return, protection or no protection. And save the political crap, not the place.

You have the #1 draft pick and the prospect any team in the lottery would kill to have.

Yet you can only come away with a two spot drop and a future pick that may end up being just another Marcus Smart?

That's an unacceptable return, plain and simple.

[theanimal23]

Hello. Bulls fan here.

Any info you are hearing from any of your board insiders or Boston sports media regarding a possibility of Celtics trading for Butler?

Thanks.

[ViperGTS]

Unfrigginbelievable.

So trading everyone for one title is worth it? That's why the Pats are so great. They don't make reactionary moves and now have 5 titles. It's like the Spurs. We get to say.."we won a title in '08!"

They say...that's nice. We have 5.

I take it you were all for keeping Al Jefferson, Delonte, Ryan Gomes and Jeff Green and building for 4 or 5 championships with them?

Nope as I added in my original post I would do its again. He was a transcendent player, one of which isn't available at the moment. That era was fun, I just want more. More than that offered.

[winsomme2]

Unfrigginbelievable.

So trading everyone for one title is worth it? That's why the Pats are so great. They don't make reactionary moves and now have 5 titles. It's like the Spurs. We get to say.."we won a title in '08!"

They say...that's nice. We have 5.

I take it you were all for keeping Al Jefferson, Delonte, Ryan Gomes and Jeff Green and building for 4 or 5 championships with them?

I'm all for drafting Curry, Thompson, and green and winning multiple championships with them

[The Corey's]

Watch on YouTube

David Aldridge mentions Jimmy Butler too

Won't watch the video but the graphic at the start says picks in plural.

Am I missing something here or what

[Double Helix]

Will be interesting to see if you guys try and trade some of these assets for one of the superstars Fultz was compared to because then you get the rich man's Fultz in their prime to play with IT and Horford in their primes and didn't have to wait on Fultz to develop. It's not easy developing ball dominant lotto talent while you also have somebody like IT.

If you could move the Nets pick, Josh Jackson and the Kings pick in 2018 for a legit superstar then even if Fultz did become Harden-lite you guys won't care because you'll have a new superstar in his prime playing alongside IT and Horford anyway.

It just feels like there's another shoe to drop here somewhere. I don't think you guys are done trying to make bold moves.


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[GoCeltics123]

Hello. Bulls fan here.

Any info you are hearing from any of your board insiders or Boston sports media regarding a possibility of Celtics trading for Butler?

Thanks.

It's really unclear. Some have mentioned there could be another trade, some don't think it'll happen.

Even so, the Cs have tried multiple times to get Jimmy and I doubt Gar/Pax is really going to give him up now.

David Aldrige and our insider Keith Smith seem to think it's possible. Others just see the trade as a reason to get Jackson/Tatum and keep assets.

[ViperGTS]

The answer is, people want the highest pick possible.

Here's what a more acceptable deal would've been, if all we're gonna get are picks

#1 for #3 and the 2018 Lakers pick if it's <4, 2019 Kings pick if > or = 4

I don't have a problem with people being pessimistic about the trade or thinking we should have gotten more.

I'm specifically siting him using the term "protected" pick to try and drive emphasis towards his point when in actuality the protection of the pick is completely counter to his point.

Trump uses the same tactic all the time. If it isn't lying, it's only semantically so.

The point of it all is that it's not a fair return, protection or no protection. And save the political crap, not the place

You have the #1 draft pick and the prospect any team in the lottery would kill to have. Yet you can only come away with a two spot drop and a future pick that may end up being just another Marcus Smart? That's unacceptable.

Perfectly put. That's the worst case scenario, but a scenario that could happen nonetheless.

[Andrew McCeltic]

jackson looks like the best athlete, the most intensity, the desire to be a two way player. I think he is your guy.

I don't know how far he gets offensively. But the desire is there. Intensity, absolutely. We're the one franchise who probably likes the fact he got in a fight with a car.

[Roddy]

People are acting like Josh Jackson will never be a good shooter. Jaylen was a bad shooter when he was drafted. He has improved a lot (Pre All Star Game : 30.4% from 3 - Post All Star Game : 37.9%).

BTW, Josh Jackson is 37.8% from 3 this season. Tatum, 34.2%.

[return2glory]

Watch on YouTube

David Aldridge mentions Jimmy Butler too

Thanks for posting. I hadn't seen this one, obviously it was prior to the trade between the Celtics and Sixers. I had seen the one with Steven A.

So David Aldridge and Steven A. Smith are mentioning Boston Celtics are going after Butler. Bulls want that 3rd pick according To Steven A. There a is good possibility that come Draft Night, we could be picking for the Bulls at number 3.

[BigTrade92]

I don't have a problem with people being pessimistic about the trade or thinking we should have gotten more.

I'm specifically siting him using the term "protected" pick to try and drive emphasis towards his point when in actuality the protection of the pick is completely counter to his point.

Trump uses the same tactic all the time. If it isn't lying, it's only semantically so.

The point of it all is that it's not a fair return, protection or no protection. And save the political crap, not the place

You have the #1 draft pick and the prospect any team in the lottery would kill to have. Yet you can only come away with a two spot drop and a future pick that may end up being just another Marcus Smart? That's unacceptable.

Perfectly put. That's the worst case scenario, but a scenario that could happen nonetheless.

I mean, I get trying to spin this in a positive light, but the return here is abysmal.

Does anyone here seriously think the Sixers would even consider trading Fultz to say the Suns for their 4th and their 2018 pick? Fat freakin chance.

Yet here some are, saying a 3rd and a lottery ticket is fair value. Give me a break...

[jcappy]

I have one final practical question about the trade, which so far I've not seen answered.

If LA gets the 7th pick (or later) of the 2018 draft, do we have a choice here as to taking this, or does the deal specify that we must then choose the 2019 Sac. pick?? In other words, is it an option or not?

[GoCeltics123]

Will be interesting to see if you guys try and trade some of these assets for one of the superstars Fultz was compared to because then you get the rich man's Fultz in their prime to play with IT and Horford in their primes and didn't have to wait on Fultz to develop. It's not easy developing ball dominant lotto talent while you also have somebody like IT.

If you could move the Nets pick, Josh Jackson and the Kings pick in 2018 for a legit superstar then even if Fultz did become Harden-lite you guys won't care because you'll have a new superstar in his prime playing alongside IT and Horford anyway.

It just feels like there's another shoe to drop here somewhere. I don't think you guys are done trying to make bold moves.


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I sure hope Danny doesn't move BOTH the Kings and Nets picks. One or the other. Losing both for a chance to be spanked by the Warriors in the finals would suck

Unless it's Anthony Davis, of course, but that's not happening

[ViperGTS]

Will be interesting to see if you guys try and trade some of these assets for one of the superstars Fultz was compared to because then you get the rich man's Fultz in their prime to play with IT and Horford in their primes and didn't have to wait on Fultz to develop. It's not easy developing ball dominant lotto talent while you also have somebody like IT.

If you could move the Nets pick, Josh Jackson and the Kings pick in 2018 for a legit superstar then even if Fultz did become Harden-lite you guys won't care because you'll have a new superstar playing alongside IT and Horford.

It just feels like there's another shoe to drop here somewhere.


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There is no one available that's worth that price, and that's exactly what the other teams in the league are praying Ainge does. Blows his wad and disappears. What you stated is all that's left of any value pick wise. For one dude.

Not happening.

[sam_I_am]

Unfrigginbelievable.

So trading everyone for one title is worth it? That's why the Pats are so great. They don't make reactionary moves and now have 5 titles. It's like the Spurs. We get to say.."we won a title in '08!"

They say...that's nice. We have 5.

I take it you were all for keeping Al Jefferson, Delonte, Ryan Gomes and Jeff Green and building for 4 or 5 championships with them?

Minnesota became a lottery team by trading KG and got their 2009 first round pick they gave us for Ricky Davis back. I think Al Jefferson with Russell Westbrook and Steph Curry instead OJ Mayo and Johnny Flynn would have made the trade look a whole lot better to Wolves fans. Can't blame the trade for bad drafting.

And Curry was a hell of a lot better player in college than Fultz.

[ViperGTS]

I have one final practical question about the trade, which so far I've not seen answered.

If LA gets the 7th pick (or later) of the 2018 draft, do we have a choice here as to taking this, or does the deal specify that we must then choose the 2019 Sac. pick?? In other words, is it an option or not?

No option. Goes automatically to the Sac '19.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

To the complainers:

You should be thankful the sixers were dumb enough to give us the extra pick.

Why you ask?

Danny was 100% ready to choose a player at #1 who wasn't fultz, regardless of this deal.

Let that sink in, if you want to complain and bitch and moan.