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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#741 » by snowman » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:49 pm

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playa-hater wrote:I am not sure if it was discussed but are we expecting jordan walsh to be full time on Boston this year??


I don't expect that, I think he'll be back and forth a lot if the big team is healthy. I think he's got great long term potential for where he was picked but I don't think we'll see much of it this early with the talent ahead of him.


At first, I was saying to myself, this Walsh kid will be gone in a year. Now, he looks like he has some game in him, and I have to remind myself that he is just 20 years old. He is 2 years younger than anyone else on the team. So, even though I'm going to hold him to a certain standard in my mind but keep reminding myself that unless your name is Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown, it may take a bit longer to get your NBA legs under you.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#742 » by Hal14 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 2:49 am

Walsh practicing with the 3rd stringers/g league guys:

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And the Maine Celtics page posting Walsh:
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A couple of clues that make me think he will play in Maine in this season - at least a little bit. And these clues make me think he is probably lower on the depth chart than Springer.

Again, we'll have a better idea of where both of them stand in the pecking order after this weekend's back to back..
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#743 » by playa-hater » Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:28 pm

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I don't expect that, I think he'll be back and forth a lot if the big team is healthy. I think he's got great long term potential for where he was picked but I don't think we'll see much of it this early with the talent ahead of him.


Playing devil's advocate, if JW is a potential "11th" man as suggested. With No KP and often no Al, plus the one player that occasional gets a small injury, wouldn't JW be a top 9-10 player on many nights??? and therefore have good use to stay up and learn to "fit in" with our star players etc,, I am not so sure the G-League benefited JW at all and certainly not like it did for JD.

Just thinking out loud on this one.


I'd put him at 12th, probably 11 obvious choices and I'd guess Springer is ahead of him at least early in the year. I think the G-league was beneficial, he was really raw last season and in the preseason looks more settled. I want to see him kill it in the g-league for part of the season before I am optimistic that he'll be ready to contribute on the pro club. Dominating the g-league doesn't guarantee a guy can be a useful pro but not dominating likely means you're warming the bench at best.


Dominating to me means play like Tatum. I would think learning to be an effective 3-D with the Jays will be better on the NBA team.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

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Playing devil's advocate, if JW is a potential "11th" man as suggested. With No KP and often no Al, plus the one player that occasional gets a small injury, wouldn't JW be a top 9-10 player on many nights??? and therefore have good use to stay up and learn to "fit in" with our star players etc,, I am not so sure the G-League benefited JW at all and certainly not like it did for JD.

Just thinking out loud on this one.


I'd put him at 12th, probably 11 obvious choices and I'd guess Springer is ahead of him at least early in the year. I think the G-league was beneficial, he was really raw last season and in the preseason looks more settled. I want to see him kill it in the g-league for part of the season before I am optimistic that he'll be ready to contribute on the pro club. Dominating the g-league doesn't guarantee a guy can be a useful pro but not dominating likely means you're warming the bench at best.


Dominating to me means play like Tatum. I would think learning to be an effective 3-D with the Jays will be better on the NBA team.


I mean basically standing out as a player who is obviously playing against inferior competition. The guys who no longer belong in the G League or the summer league are usually pretty visible.
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Jordan and Springer are battling for 12 & 13th spot, but it's more like 10th thru 12th since KP, Al, X, Kornet, Queta aren't all going to play in the same game much, if at all. I think Joe can go 10-11ish with safe wins / blowouts. That and injuries/rest I think it makes sense to keep him on the big club and get in when he can.

Unfortunately for him, the 2 guys that he needs to rest, don't do that much, esp JT. And then Hauser is behind them. But, I think he'll get his chances. Surprisingly, I think it's his D still that needs to get more dialed in to get him consistent time. Which, obviously getting consistent time will help. Along with getting stronger.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#747 » by Dogen » Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:39 pm

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Jordan trying to be cool but can barely keep a big smile from erupting across his face.

So good to see him have the preseason success after witnessing how hard he was on himself in summer league. The work is paying off!
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Post#748 » by 31to6 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:05 pm

Walsh is starting to believe

with that wingspan and athleticism, I can see him locking up the backup 2/3 role -- maybe as early as this season, and hopefully long-term (Hauser has dibs on the 3 for as long as he's here, as the backup 3/4)
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Post#749 » by Homerclease » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:46 pm

These past 2 games it feels like the game has started to slow down just a bit for Walsh. He’s still a zero trying to create anything with the ball in his hands but I believe the improvement in his shot is real. He’s still a year away at least but the tools are beginning to shine
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djFan71 wrote:Jordan and Springer are battling for 12 & 13th spot, but it's more like 10th thru 12th since KP, Al, X, Kornet, Queta aren't all going to play in the same game much, if at all. I think Joe can go 10-11ish with safe wins / blowouts. That and injuries/rest I think it makes sense to keep him on the big club and get in when he can.

Unfortunately for him, the 2 guys that he needs to rest, don't do that much, esp JT. And then Hauser is behind them. But, I think he'll get his chances. Surprisingly, I think it's his D still that needs to get more dialed in to get him consistent time. Which, obviously getting consistent time will help. Along with getting stronger.


I agree with this 100%. I've been happily surprised with him looking competent offensively in the preseason but am keeping my expectations tempered until we see how consistent it is. The thing that'll determine whether he can get on the floor is being able to defend without fouling (which has looked better) and his lateral speed/anticipation on defense. It's why I feel like starting him out in Maine is good, I think the anticipation will benefit the most from regular minutes. If he outgrows Maine this season then fantastic, the good news is he looks like he is progressing really well and is only 20 so we can afford to be patient.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#751 » by Dogen » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:01 pm

Homerclease wrote:These past 2 games it feels like the game has started to slow down just a bit for Walsh. He’s still a zero trying to create anything with the ball in his hands but I believe the improvement in his shot is real. He’s still a year away at least but the tools are beginning to shine


Creating off the dribble as a ball handler setting up plays, yes, but he's made some really crisp passes while the ball is moving in rotation. That, and the shot (and the boards, and the D), really makes it easier for him to see the floor.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#752 » by phincsfan » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:35 pm

Homerclease wrote:These past 2 games it feels like the game has started to slow down just a bit for Walsh. He’s still a zero trying to create anything with the ball in his hands but I believe the improvement in his shot is real. He’s still a year away at least but the tools are beginning to shine


Agreed and that's exactly why I'd rather him stay in Boston than Maine. Baby steps. Let him learn those things around the best everyday. JB would be a perfect player to show him how he tightened up his ball handling. I also like that he's shooting 3's from all over and not just the typical corner like certain projects.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#753 » by Homerclease » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:54 pm

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Homerclease wrote:These past 2 games it feels like the game has started to slow down just a bit for Walsh. He’s still a zero trying to create anything with the ball in his hands but I believe the improvement in his shot is real. He’s still a year away at least but the tools are beginning to shine


Agreed and that's exactly why I'd rather him stay in Boston than Maine. Baby steps. Let him learn those things around the best everyday. JB would be a perfect player to show him how he tightened up his ball handling. I also like that he's shooting 3's from all over and not just the typical corner like certain projects.

I prefer him in Maine where he’ll get consistent minutes. Give him the rock and let him make his mistakes where the games don’t matter
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

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Homerclease wrote:These past 2 games it feels like the game has started to slow down just a bit for Walsh. He’s still a zero trying to create anything with the ball in his hands but I believe the improvement in his shot is real. He’s still a year away at least but the tools are beginning to shine


Agreed and that's exactly why I'd rather him stay in Boston than Maine. Baby steps. Let him learn those things around the best everyday. JB would be a perfect player to show him how he tightened up his ball handling. I also like that he's shooting 3's from all over and not just the typical corner like certain projects.

I prefer him in Maine where he’ll get consistent minutes. Give him the rock and let him make his mistakes where the games don’t matter


I don’t. One Maine season is all you need, no one goes down 2 seasons and comes up to make a difference, that I can remember. You should be showing by the next season (really mid rookie term), you’ll be one of the forgotten guys like our overseas players.

JD wasn’t getting a call from other teams but he shoulda went over, this was already an end road, he did nothing to get mins in emergency (even though I believe he’s okay enough)! Losing good overseas money.

Peterson better hope to get emergency mins this season or they start cost cutting and open penny on the dollar spots by next season. Multiple overseas and Maine seasons seem to be the end.

I know Queta is a multi year gl guy but not with us. He’ll probably get rub with Maine but it’s totally different, we have 50-11 bigs, JB and Tatum together only have Sam as backup (maybe X for Tatum). This is Walsh’s shot!

Give Walsh the towel waving spot OB minutes, please Joe?!
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#755 » by darrendaye » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:24 pm

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Agreed and that's exactly why I'd rather him stay in Boston than Maine. Baby steps. Let him learn those things around the best everyday. JB would be a perfect player to show him how he tightened up his ball handling. I also like that he's shooting 3's from all over and not just the typical corner like certain projects.

I prefer him in Maine where he’ll get consistent minutes. Give him the rock and let him make his mistakes where the games don’t matter


I don’t. One Maine season is all you need, no one goes down 2 seasons and comes up to make a difference, that I can remember. You should be showing by the next season (really mid rookie term), you’ll be one of the forgotten guys like our overseas players.

JD wasn’t getting a call from other teams but he shoulda went over, this was already an end road, he did nothing to get mins in emergency (even though I believe he’s okay enough)! Losing good overseas money.

Peterson better hope to get emergency mins this season or they start cost cutting and open penny on the dollar spots by next season. Multiple overseas and Maine seasons seem to be the end.

I know Queta is a multi year gl guy but not with us. He’ll probably get rub with Maine but it’s totally different, we have 50-11 bigs, JB and Tatum together only have Sam as backup (maybe X for Tatum). This is Walsh’s shot!

Give Walsh the towel waving spot OB minutes, please Joe?!


I'm torn on this a bit and my opinion has not deviated with pre-season nor summer league. I would have him shuttle a bit still. Understand and don't dispute the idea that development caps on some skills by remaining in the g-league. The main reason I still want him to play for stretches down there is to continue to evolve as a ball handler/distributor where he can take more risks. Further, I would send him down but be sure to elevate Peterson during those stretches since they have a number of mouths to feed already in Maine. Walsh should be up and playing though, IMO, for veteran rest days.
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Post#756 » by 31to6 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:04 pm

with Walsh's 7'3" wingspan, ability to get off the floor, and wiry strength(?), I can't stop dreaming of a Dollar General version of Stacey Augmon -- the "Plastic Man" for those of a certain vintage:)
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Post#757 » by Dogen » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:09 am

31to6 wrote:with Walsh's 7'3" wingspan, ability to get off the floor, and wiry strength(?), I can't stop dreaming of a Dollar General version of Stacey Augmon -- the "Plastic Man" for those of a certain vintage:)


Yeah, Augman! Nice comp.

Scal mentioned last night Walsh should look at Igoudala as a guy to try to emulate.
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Post#758 » by Shak_Celts » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:27 am

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Homerclease wrote:I prefer him in Maine where he’ll get consistent minutes. Give him the rock and let him make his mistakes where the games don’t matter


I don’t. One Maine season is all you need, no one goes down 2 seasons and comes up to make a difference, that I can remember. You should be showing by the next season (really mid rookie term), you’ll be one of the forgotten guys like our overseas players.

JD wasn’t getting a call from other teams but he shoulda went over, this was already an end road, he did nothing to get mins in emergency (even though I believe he’s okay enough)! Losing good overseas money.

Peterson better hope to get emergency mins this season or they start cost cutting and open penny on the dollar spots by next season. Multiple overseas and Maine seasons seem to be the end.

I know Queta is a multi year gl guy but not with us. He’ll probably get rub with Maine but it’s totally different, we have 50-11 bigs, JB and Tatum together only have Sam as backup (maybe X for Tatum). This is Walsh’s shot!

Give Walsh the towel waving spot OB minutes, please Joe?!


I'm torn on this a bit and my opinion has not deviated with pre-season nor summer league. I would have him shuttle a bit still. Understand and don't dispute the idea that development caps on some skills by remaining in the g-league. The main reason I still want him to play for stretches down there is to continue to evolve as a ball handler/distributor where he can take more risks. Further, I would send him down but be sure to elevate Peterson during those stretches since they have a number of mouths to feed already in Maine. Walsh should be up and playing though, IMO, for veteran rest days.



We really could use him for practice because we lost Oshae and earlier last season Stevens. We need someone to give Jays a lil run on D. We only have Sam (X?), unless it’s Jay v. Jay every time. I know we have Jrue and White but I like some practice meat so it doesn’t tax the good guys too much.

It can have the added benefit of getting Walsh ready. Can’t beat learning to stop a future league MVP (Tat this season) and a FMVP every practice. One is gonna bulldoze you and the other is going to give you some KD pressure. If he can eventually bother them consistently, most of the league will be light work! Long arm of the law walsh!!
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Post#759 » by djFan71 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:49 am

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djFan71 wrote:Jordan and Springer are battling for 12 & 13th spot, but it's more like 10th thru 12th since KP, Al, X, Kornet, Queta aren't all going to play in the same game much, if at all. I think Joe can go 10-11ish with safe wins / blowouts. That and injuries/rest I think it makes sense to keep him on the big club and get in when he can.

Unfortunately for him, the 2 guys that he needs to rest, don't do that much, esp JT. And then Hauser is behind them. But, I think he'll get his chances. Surprisingly, I think it's his D still that needs to get more dialed in to get him consistent time. Which, obviously getting consistent time will help. Along with getting stronger.


I agree with this 100%. I've been happily surprised with him looking competent offensively in the preseason but am keeping my expectations tempered until we see how consistent it is. The thing that'll determine whether he can get on the floor is being able to defend without fouling (which has looked better) and his lateral speed/anticipation on defense. It's why I feel like starting him out in Maine is good, I think the anticipation will benefit the most from regular minutes. If he outgrows Maine this season then fantastic, the good news is he looks like he is progressing really well and is only 20 so we can afford to be patient.

Yeah, you can definitely see both sides I don't think there's really any wrong answer with Maine vs BOS. But, I'd lean BOS if he can get in even every other game or so. If he's gonna constantly ride, then Maine for sure. But being around the big club and getting short run with the real rotation guys will help a bunch, imo. Shuttle the heck out of him if need be.
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Re: Welcome to Boston, Jordan Walsh! 

Post#760 » by Shak_Celts » Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:18 am

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djFan71 wrote:Jordan and Springer are battling for 12 & 13th spot, but it's more like 10th thru 12th since KP, Al, X, Kornet, Queta aren't all going to play in the same game much, if at all. I think Joe can go 10-11ish with safe wins / blowouts. That and injuries/rest I think it makes sense to keep him on the big club and get in when he can.

Unfortunately for him, the 2 guys that he needs to rest, don't do that much, esp JT. And then Hauser is behind them. But, I think he'll get his chances. Surprisingly, I think it's his D still that needs to get more dialed in to get him consistent time. Which, obviously getting consistent time will help. Along with getting stronger.


I agree with this 100%. I've been happily surprised with him looking competent offensively in the preseason but am keeping my expectations tempered until we see how consistent it is. The thing that'll determine whether he can get on the floor is being able to defend without fouling (which has looked better) and his lateral speed/anticipation on defense. It's why I feel like starting him out in Maine is good, I think the anticipation will benefit the most from regular minutes. If he outgrows Maine this season then fantastic, the good news is he looks like he is progressing really well and is only 20 so we can afford to be patient.

Yeah, you can definitely see both sides I don't think there's really any wrong answer with Maine vs BOS. But, I'd lean BOS if he can get in even every other game or so. If he's gonna constantly ride, then Maine for sure. But being around the big club and getting short run with the real rotation guys will help a bunch, imo. Shuttle the heck out of him if need be.


Yeah, like Queta, he’s probably going up and down. I just hope they give him a real look early and definitely keep him around when we have real practices.
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