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Post#741 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:42 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Miami Heat quietly moving up. Coinciding with Herro injury lol. Have now won 5 straight and 3rd in East.


Didn't Miami's playoff run also coincide with a Herro injury?

The most recent one, yes.

He was healthy for their 2020 Finals run. Got injured against us in 2022 ECF.
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Post#742 » by AgentGreen » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:42 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:45-6-5-3 for Maxey, team-high +16. Good job Danny for picking Nesmith over him.

My bad. It's 50-7-5-3.

The other Tyrese not so bad either. 25 pts and 17 assists with 0 turnovers. Only 4th player ever to do that.


His scouting report was much better than most players outside the lottery. When i suggested the Maxey most amateur scouts over here criticized his shot, while he was still a raw talent with tremendous upside, and his floater would never be succesfull in the NBA.. LOL! I was all in on this kid, he showed me that he is a real baller in his scouting tapes. Danny is a average drafter outside the lottery.
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Post#743 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:47 am

Green89 wrote:Rockets beat the Nuggets. Denver bench only had 8 points.

Suns bench (which everyone praised during the offseason) outscored the Thunder bench, 38-7.
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Post#744 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:56 am

Triple7 wrote:Ime had this rockets team play hard. and we have bubble gum Joe lol.

I wanted Joe gone at the end of last year, but I've liked most of what I've heard and seen from him so far this year. When you listen to him speak he is clearly very bright and knows his ****. He has the coaching support and roster he wants now and we can only blame Ime for Ime not being here. Honestly I think it's time for a lot of people to move on.
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Post#745 » by Triple7 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:57 am

Damn Antman is unstoppable. If we have him instead of Jaylen, we’d be unbeatable.
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Post#746 » by Triple7 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:00 am

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Triple7 wrote:Ime had this rockets team play hard. and we have bubble gum Joe lol.

I wanted Joe gone at the end of last year, but I've liked most of what I've heard and seen from him so far this year. When you listen to him speak he is clearly very bright and knows his ****. He has the coaching support and roster he wants now and we can only blame Ime for Ime not being here. Honestly I think it's time for a lot of people to move on.


I don’t like Ime at all as a human being. I’ve moved on from him a long time. Joe is sometimes so stubborn its **** frustrating. Not calling timeouts and setting up a play on crucial times is something i can’t understand about him.
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Post#747 » by Triple7 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:07 am

Lol. Wolves coach took the bait from Kerr subbing in the bench players haha. Kerr should have put his starters back in down 4 with the ball.
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Post#748 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:09 am

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Triple7 wrote:Ime had this rockets team play hard. and we have bubble gum Joe lol.

I wanted Joe gone at the end of last year, but I've liked most of what I've heard and seen from him so far this year. When you listen to him speak he is clearly very bright and knows his ****. He has the coaching support and roster he wants now and we can only blame Ime for Ime not being here. Honestly I think it's time for a lot of people to move on.


I don’t like Ime at all as a human being. I’ve moved on from him a long time. Joe is sometimes so stubborn its **** frustrating. Not calling timeouts and setting up a play on crucial times is something i can’t understand about him.

His timeouts this year have improved and there are a lot of good signs about the way we are starting to play.

Joe has admitted he didn't have the right feel for timeouts at times in the playoffs but still doesn't subscribe to timeouts to stop runs in every instance. For the record statistics support Joe on that front. Joe thinking differently doesn't make him stubborn, but in reality most elite coaches and players are pretty stubborn, because the good side to stubbornness is persistence which is a requirement for most to get to that level.
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Post#749 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:23 am

Wow did Philly pound Indy on the glass. 23 offensive rebounds for Philly; 24 defensive ones for Indy.

I'm sure a few came from tip-fests after poor inside shooting, but still ... wow.

Oddly, Embiid was -1 in an 11 point win, despite having 8 of those ORs himself.
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Post#750 » by Triple7 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:46 am

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Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:I wanted Joe gone at the end of last year, but I've liked most of what I've heard and seen from him so far this year. When you listen to him speak he is clearly very bright and knows his ****. He has the coaching support and roster he wants now and we can only blame Ime for Ime not being here. Honestly I think it's time for a lot of people to move on.


I don’t like Ime at all as a human being. I’ve moved on from him a long time. Joe is sometimes so stubborn its **** frustrating. Not calling timeouts and setting up a play on crucial times is something i can’t understand about him.

His timeouts this year have improved and there are a lot of good signs about the way we are starting to play.

Joe has admitted he didn't have the right feel for timeouts at times in the playoffs but still doesn't subscribe to timeouts to stop runs in every instance. For the record statistics support Joe on that front. Joe thinking differently doesn't make him stubborn, but in reality most elite coaches and players are pretty stubborn, because the good side to stubbornness is persistence which is a requirement for most to get to that level.


I just don’t trust him yet. Still have doubts he has anything in his bag at all during end of games plays. That end of regulation against the Wolves is a classic example. Game is tied, should have called a time out there and designed a play. Instead he let Jaylen put up a horrible shot. The reasoning you don’t want the other team to set up their defense are bs. Also, you can’t compare him to coaches like Pop and phil, who are as stubborn as you can get. Those guys have proven themselves already. and most of us wanted to strangle Joe for not calling timeouts last year to break opposing teams momentum.
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Post#751 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:53 am

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Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
I don’t like Ime at all as a human being. I’ve moved on from him a long time. Joe is sometimes so stubborn its **** frustrating. Not calling timeouts and setting up a play on crucial times is something i can’t understand about him.

His timeouts this year have improved and there are a lot of good signs about the way we are starting to play.

Joe has admitted he didn't have the right feel for timeouts at times in the playoffs but still doesn't subscribe to timeouts to stop runs in every instance. For the record statistics support Joe on that front. Joe thinking differently doesn't make him stubborn, but in reality most elite coaches and players are pretty stubborn, because the good side to stubbornness is persistence which is a requirement for most to get to that level.


I just don’t trust him yet. Still have doubts he has anything in his bag at all during end of games plays. That end of regulation against the Wolves is a classic example. Game is tied, should have called a time out there and designed a play. Instead he let Jaylen put up a horrible shot. The reasoning you don’t want the other team to set up their defense are bs. Also, you can’t compare him to coaches like Pop and phil, who are as stubborn as you can get. Those guys have proven themselves already. and most of us wanted to strangle Joe for not calling timeouts last year to break opposing teams momentum.

Most plays are drawn up to get a good open shot, something Jaylen had because the defense wasn't set up, so that's not a good example to support your argument IMO. Which ever way you go it will pay off sometimes, sometimes not.

Ime and the Cs got so much credit for trust in each other not to call a timeout at the end of game 1 Vs Brooklyn, round 1 2022. How is that different?

Having said all that, I do hope that Joe will have the sense to do it at times if he feels the Cs offense needs settling down first.
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Post#752 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:02 am

GSW lost to Cavs and Wolves.

All big teams.

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Post#753 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:03 am

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Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
I don’t like Ime at all as a human being. I’ve moved on from him a long time. Joe is sometimes so stubborn its **** frustrating. Not calling timeouts and setting up a play on crucial times is something i can’t understand about him.

His timeouts this year have improved and there are a lot of good signs about the way we are starting to play.

Joe has admitted he didn't have the right feel for timeouts at times in the playoffs but still doesn't subscribe to timeouts to stop runs in every instance. For the record statistics support Joe on that front. Joe thinking differently doesn't make him stubborn, but in reality most elite coaches and players are pretty stubborn, because the good side to stubbornness is persistence which is a requirement for most to get to that level.


I just don’t trust him yet. Still have doubts he has anything in his bag at all during end of games plays. That end of regulation against the Wolves is a classic example. Game is tied, should have called a time out there and designed a play. Instead he let Jaylen put up a horrible shot. The reasoning you don’t want the other team to set up their defense are bs. Also, you can’t compare him to coaches like Pop and phil, who are as stubborn as you can get. Those guys have proven themselves already. and most of us wanted to strangle Joe for not calling timeouts last year to break opposing teams momentum.

It was only fair to JB to give him the last shot.

He's the 300m dollar man!
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Post#754 » by GoGreen » Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:04 am

Hmm. Not going to lie folks, I had zero faith in the 6ers coming into the year. But ill say this, Nurse is a fantastic coach, they've got assets and a really nice player in Maxey. I'm still not an Embiid guy, but if they can trade for some of those guys In Chicago, let's say Caruso and Lavine? Shooot... they COULD be a problem.
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Post#755 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:11 am

GoGreen wrote:Hmm. Not going to lie folks, I had zero faith in the 6ers coming into the year. But ill say this, Nurse is a fantastic coach, they've got assets and a really nice player in Maxey. I'm still not an Embiid guy, but if they can trade for some of those guys In Chicago, let's say Caruso and Lavine? Shooot... they COULD be a problem.

Caruso yeah.

Trading for Lavine would be a bad idea for them, takes touches from Maxey and doesn't play defense
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Post#756 » by Triple7 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:11 am

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Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:His timeouts this year have improved and there are a lot of good signs about the way we are starting to play.

Joe has admitted he didn't have the right feel for timeouts at times in the playoffs but still doesn't subscribe to timeouts to stop runs in every instance. For the record statistics support Joe on that front. Joe thinking differently doesn't make him stubborn, but in reality most elite coaches and players are pretty stubborn, because the good side to stubbornness is persistence which is a requirement for most to get to that level.


I just don’t trust him yet. Still have doubts he has anything in his bag at all during end of games plays. That end of regulation against the Wolves is a classic example. Game is tied, should have called a time out there and designed a play. Instead he let Jaylen put up a horrible shot. The reasoning you don’t want the other team to set up their defense are bs. Also, you can’t compare him to coaches like Pop and phil, who are as stubborn as you can get. Those guys have proven themselves already. and most of us wanted to strangle Joe for not calling timeouts last year to break opposing teams momentum.

It was only fair to JB to give him the last shot.

He's the 300m dollar man!


Lol. I’m actually scared when he tries to dribble in traffic. Expecting a turnover every time.
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Post#757 » by Triple7 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:15 am

Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:His timeouts this year have improved and there are a lot of good signs about the way we are starting to play.

Joe has admitted he didn't have the right feel for timeouts at times in the playoffs but still doesn't subscribe to timeouts to stop runs in every instance. For the record statistics support Joe on that front. Joe thinking differently doesn't make him stubborn, but in reality most elite coaches and players are pretty stubborn, because the good side to stubbornness is persistence which is a requirement for most to get to that level.


I just don’t trust him yet. Still have doubts he has anything in his bag at all during end of games plays. That end of regulation against the Wolves is a classic example. Game is tied, should have called a time out there and designed a play. Instead he let Jaylen put up a horrible shot. The reasoning you don’t want the other team to set up their defense are bs. Also, you can’t compare him to coaches like Pop and phil, who are as stubborn as you can get. Those guys have proven themselves already. and most of us wanted to strangle Joe for not calling timeouts last year to break opposing teams momentum.

Most plays are drawn up to get a good open shot, something Jaylen had because the defense wasn't set up, so that's not a good example to support your argument IMO. Which ever way you go it will pay off sometimes, sometimes not.

Ime and the Cs got so much credit for trust in each other not to call a timeout at the end of game 1 Vs Brooklyn, round 1 2022. How is that different?

Having said all that, I do hope that Joe will have the sense to do it at times if he feels the Cs offense needs settling down first.


It’s different because Ime draw up plays from time to time. I have to see Joe draw up a play for once, and not just give it Tatum for an iso 3.
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Post#758 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:21 am

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He could've gotten to the ball without ramming his head into the guy's leg. Not a momentum thing.
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Post#759 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:58 am

Random Stat: The Warriors are the only team without multiple players scoring more than 20 points in any game this season. None of Curry's teammates has scored more than 20 points in their 11 games.
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Post#760 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:11 am

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Between this and the Austin Reeves hype machine (or hype machine surrounding their offseason moves in general), the NBA is desperate to make the Lakers still relevant before Lebron retires.

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