Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025

[phincsfan]

With LaVine going to the Kings, I wonder if Keon Ellis is available.

He's better than Springer and only has a 2m contract.

I like Ellis, I mentioned him before. That's a sneaky good type of move for the C's future since the Kings are in rebuild mode. I don't see any team taking Springer at this point. What would be their incentive? If that's who you were thinking about moving.

I could see XMan as a possibility at the deadline for him because they have slots to fill. They are thin up front especially after this season.

Lavine, Monk and DeRozan pretty much make Ellis worthless at this point because their contracts are more important to get use out of.

If the C's go back to back, I'm all in on from moving PP. IMO, all the blood has been squeezed from that rock for us and IMO, he deserves to get more minutes.

Go for the dynasty label with your horses and cut the excess fat from the payroll. I think with a full offseason of rest, JT-JB-KP-Jrue-White still have some gas left in the tank to make a run, but the bench will be different because of the tax.

I posted earlier about moving PP, Sam and XMan to free up 20mil next season.

If it's a move in the offseason, use PP and Sam's contracts to bring in smaller contracts but also attain picks.

C's get Ellis and Kings 2nd from Chi (still confused about the specifics, but I think this pick will convey)

Kings get Sam


Peterson will have to replace Sam

C's cut payroll down to 213mil which will still keep them over the projected 208mil 2nd apron next year but, that means they can move PP for a smaller contract also which will bring them closer to going under the 2nd apron. An XMan move gets them under the 2nd apron. Then, it seems all trades much be matched dollar for dollar.

C's get Clips 25' 1st

Griz get PP



Ellis can replace PP

Move XMan for a future 2nd, Anton can replace him

Payroll cut to around 203mil

Try to package the C's own 1st and the Clips 1st to move up or to acquire more draft assets

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Bulls have 17 players. Might have to cut a few players like Craig, Horton-Tucker, Duarte if they can't find a trade for them.

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how did the kings get more for fox than dallas got for luka. this is insane.

that's a good question, for some reason the Mavs FO were hell-bent on sending him to LAL. Otherwise, they would've gotten enough to fully rebuild their roster. Again, not that crazy that they traded the guy, with everything being said, he's probably a big time prick and he's not a hard worker(just very talented on offense). With that said, it's a shocker that they didn't get 3-4 FRPs and a pick swap + a young guy along with an all-star type player.

They clearly wanted the best single player they could get back in return for Luka so that they could still be relatively competitive and prioritized that over getting the best overall package. They also wanted to get it done without all the drama that would come from truly shopping him, so they engaged an incredibly limited number of teams, which really limited their negotiating power.

It's still surprising that they weren't able to completely squeeze the Lakers for everything that they had in the cupboard given LA's current situation and somewhat dire forward look. You'd think Nico could say "do you want the 25 year old generational talent for your post LeBron era or not?" but at the same time I kind of get it because once Dallas start down this road there really was no coming back. All hell breaks loose as soon as it leaks that they genuinely shopped Luka, so Pelinka probably knew he had some leverage and the only top 10 player definitely available for Luka.

If Nico said give me everything or I'm walking away and Pelinka call's his bluff, they are in for a **** storm of epic proportions. So he likely sacrificed squeezing extra value out for the sake of getting it done and dusted, which is a massive mistake obviously, but so was the idea to trade Luka in the first place anyway.

Given how quick and quiet this was assumed to be, I don't get how Utah got involved.

Did DAL and LAL figure out exactly what they'd need Utah to do to make the trade work, and intentionally make it so easy to say 'yes' to that Danny immediately said 'yes'? He's long been renowned for wanting to squeeze every atom of value out of a deal, to the point of not making them. But I guess the answer is that if Utah's where DAL/LAL's assessment led them to the contracts/picks that would work, that's where it led.

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Bulls have 17 players. Might have to cut a few players like Craig, Horton-Tucker, Duarte if they can't find a trade for them.

Duarte has quickly become non-interesting, hasn't he?
If cut, THT will immediately sign with LA Fitness

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Bulls have 17 players. Might have to cut a few players like Craig, Horton-Tucker, Duarte if they can't find a trade for them.

Duarte has quickly become non-interesting, hasn't he?
If cut, THT will immediately sign with LA Fitness

We'll see. I sure Chicago will probably be involved in 1-2 more trades before Thursday.

[Ballerhogger]

I come in peace but do we want see this again

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[Fierce1]

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IMO that would be great.

But I think that's a few years away.

Lakers need to assemble a competent supporting cast first.

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Things could be worse.

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that's a good question, for some reason the Mavs FO were hell-bent on sending him to LAL. Otherwise, they would've gotten enough to fully rebuild their roster. Again, not that crazy that they traded the guy, with everything being said, he's probably a big time prick and he's not a hard worker(just very talented on offense). With that said, it's a shocker that they didn't get 3-4 FRPs and a pick swap + a young guy along with an all-star type player.

They clearly wanted the best single player they could get back in return for Luka so that they could still be relatively competitive and prioritized that over getting the best overall package. They also wanted to get it done without all the drama that would come from truly shopping him, so they engaged an incredibly limited number of teams, which really limited their negotiating power.

It's still surprising that they weren't able to completely squeeze the Lakers for everything that they had in the cupboard given LA's current situation and somewhat dire forward look. You'd think Nico could say "do you want the 25 year old generational talent for your post LeBron era or not?" but at the same time I kind of get it because once Dallas start down this road there really was no coming back. All hell breaks loose as soon as it leaks that they genuinely shopped Luka, so Pelinka probably knew he had some leverage and the only top 10 player definitely available for Luka.

If Nico said give me everything or I'm walking away and Pelinka call's his bluff, they are in for a **** storm of epic proportions. So he likely sacrificed squeezing extra value out for the sake of getting it done and dusted, which is a massive mistake obviously, but so was the idea to trade Luka in the first place anyway.

Given how quick and quiet this was assumed to be, I don't get how Utah got involved.

Did DAL and LAL figure out exactly what they'd need Utah to do to make the trade work, and intentionally make it so easy to say 'yes' to that Danny immediately said 'yes'? He's long been renowned for wanting to squeeze every atom of value out of a deal, to the point of not making them. But I guess the answer is that if Utah's where DAL/LAL's assessment led them to the contracts/picks that would work, that's where it led.

That was the big news on the trade, that LA's recent top-15 draft pick took to 2nds to dump his value is so bad. The rest was just noise.

[SuperDeluxe]

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I have no idea if Boston are making the Finals this year, but IMO the Lakers aren't (unless there's another trade or two coming). Frankly, I can't see Luka and LeBron coexisting unless LeBron reduces his role to finisher (which he may, but I wouldn't bet on it).

[Celts17Pride]

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I have no idea if Boston are making the Finals this year, but IMO the Lakers aren't (unless there's another trade or two coming). Frankly, I can't see Luka and LeBron coexisting unless LeBron reduces his role to finisher (which he may, but I wouldn't bet on it).

The Lakers trade is all about the Lakers having a major star to market once Lebron retires soon.

[playa-hater]

Imagine if we had traded Tatum to get Porzingis lol.

that is a good comparison.

[playa-hater]

I consider myself the top PP fan on here. But there is NO ONE ever (except Bird) I wouldn't trade to get my Precious Titles. With that said I have no Problem trading PP or Hauser to get the "Right deal". Just don't know who that may be for.

But between PP, Hauser, Al (salary) and our draft capital I am hoping something good can be done. I for one Do not want to do nothing only to find out the much rumored "Turn on switch" is just a fable.

[chrisab123]

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IMO that would be great.

But I think that's a few years away.

Lakers need to assemble a competent supporting cast first.

It’s going to be a couple years before Jabba the Slovenian gets back to the finals.

[ConstableGeneva]

Smart was traded for Porzingis + 2 FRPs.
Luka was traded for Davis + 1 FRP.

Smart > Luka. End of today's lesson on logic.

[playa-hater]

KD available i am hearing??

[Hal14]

With LaVine going to the Kings, I wonder if Keon Ellis is available.

He's better than Springer and only has a 2m contract.

I like Ellis, I mentioned him before. That's a sneaky good type of move for the C's future since the Kings are in rebuild mode. I don't see any team taking Springer at this point. What would be their incentive? If that's who you were thinking about moving.

I could see XMan as a possibility at the deadline for him because they have slots to fill. They are thin up front especially after this season.

Lavine, Monk and DeRozan pretty much make Ellis worthless at this point because their contracts are more important to get use out of.

If the C's go back to back, I'm all in on from moving PP. IMO, all the blood has been squeezed from that rock for us and IMO, he deserves to get more minutes.

Go for the dynasty label with your horses and cut the excess fat from the payroll. I think with a full offseason of rest, JT-JB-KP-Jrue-White still have some gas left in the tank to make a run, but the bench will be different because of the tax.

I posted earlier about moving PP, Sam and XMan to free up 20mil next season.

If it's a move in the offseason, use PP and Sam's contracts to bring in smaller contracts but also attain picks.

C's get Ellis and Kings 2nd from Chi (still confused about the specifics, but I think this pick will convey)

Kings get Sam


Peterson will have to replace Sam

C's cut payroll down to 213mil which will still keep them over the projected 208mil 2nd apron next year but, that means they can move PP for a smaller contract also which will bring them closer to going under the 2nd apron. An XMan move gets them under the 2nd apron. Then, it seems all trades much be matched dollar for dollar.

C's get Clips 25' 1st

Griz get PP



Ellis can replace PP

Move XMan for a future 2nd, Anton can replace him

Payroll cut to around 203mil

Try to package the C's own 1st and the Clips 1st to move up or to acquire more draft assets

25/26

KP-JT-JB-White-Jrue
Neems-Anton-Peterson-Walsh-Rico-Ellis

That's a terrible bench. Hauser to Peterson is a huge downgrade. Pritchard to Ellis is also a big downgrade.

And we're losing Horford, just because? He's given no indication that he's close to retirement..

All this does is save us money. Yet makes the team worse, makes us younger. Those are the types of moves teams make when they're blowing it up and rebuilding. We're not doing that any time soon - not with the Jays in their prime.

[Celts17Pride]

I honestly think the best thing for everyone involved (Lakers/Warriors) would be to trade Lebron to the Warriors. Lakers could start fresh with Luka and Lebron/Curry could go for one last ring. I'll be curious to see if this picks up steam as the week goes on. Nevermind what has been said so far, means nothing.


The Golden State Warriors are exploring the possibility of trading for Kevin Durant from the Phoenix Suns, sources tell Jake Fischer. The Warriors are also internally discussing the possibility of bringing both Durant and LeBron James to the team, though the logistics of that scenario is highly unrealistic.

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more trades coming?