Official Draft Thread 2015-16

ddb · Post #761 » by **ddb** » Fri Jan 1, 2016 6:40 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:Dunn with another studly game - 20 points on 6/12 shooting (2/3 from 3), 9 assists, 7 boards, 2 steals against a top-10 Butler team on the road, and if you watched the game, he completely dominated every second he was on the court.

Can you say Dwayne Wade?

Gomes3PC · Post #762 » by **Gomes3PC** » Fri Jan 1, 2016 7:32 pm

I can definitely see the Wade comparison a bit - not a good outside shooter, but good enough to keep guys honest. Great vision, attacks the rim with ease. His first step might not be quite as elite as Wade's was coming into the league, and I think he's not as strong as Wade and lacks some of the crafty moves Wade has (though some were developed in the NBA), but on the flip side I think Dunn is a better defender.

Homerclease · Post #763 » by **Homerclease** » Fri Jan 1, 2016 10:57 pm

If the celtics can't swing a deal I really think they need to come out of this draft with at least two big fellas. Sully is the only real "center" on the roster right now and he's a RFA after the season. Rabb, Poeltl, Stone, Davis and Zimmerman have to be on the celtics radar for sure

Curmudgeon · Post #764 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri Jan 1, 2016 11:20 pm

Labissiere has looked awful but I haven't given up on him. Let's wait for him to acclimate. He's young. If he slips out of the lottery he'd be a very good gamble.

Diamond Stone had some bad games early as well.

Homerclease · Post #765 » by **Homerclease** » Fri Jan 1, 2016 11:27 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Labissiere has looked awful but I haven't given up on him. Let's wait for him to acclimate. He's young. If he slips out of the lottery he'd be a very good gamble.

Diamond Stone had some bad games early as well.

My worry with Skal is can he get work done down low in the paint. Celtics struggle on the defensive glass and have no real inside defender other than Amir who is starting to show some wear and tear as the season progresses. Do the celtics really need another finesse big? All that being said if he drops out of the lotto I'd be more than willing to take a flier on him.

Fidel Sarcasmo · Post #766 » by **Fidel Sarcasmo** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 12:07 am

I'm trying to think of nick names for bender should we get him, so far all I got is Dragan Ball B

Curmudgeon · Post #767 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 12:17 am

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:I'm trying to think of nick names for bender should we get him, so far all I got is Dragan Ball B

Curmudgeon · Post #768 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 12:17 am

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:I'm trying to think of nick names for bender should we get him, so far all I got is Dragan Ball B

http://www.netanimations.net/373_Dragon-16-june.gif

brackdan70 · Post #769 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 12:21 am

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:I'm trying to think of nick names for bender should we get him, so far all I got is Dragan Ball B

with a name like Dragon Bender, he doesn't need an alias

truth18 · Post #770 » by **truth18** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 12:23 am

Homerclease · Post #771 » by **Homerclease** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 12:23 am

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:I'm trying to think of nick names for bender should we get him, so far all I got is Dragan Ball B

Bender is an interesting choice if the celtics can't make a move by or on draft day. I'm under the impression it would take a buyout to get him here, so in theory he could be stashed for a year or two in Europe like Saric for the sixers.

CelticFaninLBC · Post #772 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 2:25 am

I suspect Boston drafts either Dunn or Murray.

Post #773 » by **165bows** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 2:42 am

brackdan70 wrote:I hate when people factor in age of prospects too much (even though I constantly do ) Dunn will turn 22 before he even plays an NBA game and in fact is almost the same exact age as Smart. I think he is a great player, but does that factor into the thought process for where he gets drafted?

Wade points per 40 as a freshman = 24
Dunn points per 40 as a freshman = 8

Post #774 » by **165bows** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 2:53 am

Poeltl is weird in that he turns it over nearly as often as he does miss FG attempts. Guy just doesn't miss shots from the field.

I think a pro game would help his post up and pick and roll game offensively, but that he's not that instinctive defensively.

return2glory · Post #775 » by **return2glory** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 3:06 am

165bows wrote:Poeltl is weird in that he turns it over nearly as often as he does miss FG attempts. Guy just doesn't miss shots from the field.

I think a pro game would help his post up and pick and roll game offensively, but that he's not that instinctive defensively.

I like his post game and foot work. He can go top 7 in this draft. A legit 7 footer that rebounds, scores, passes well, and is good in the post.

max powers · Post #776 » by **max powers** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 11:47 am

I really like Poerltl I think he has perinial all star potential. Bender is intriguing but I think there is a high boom vs bust risk there. Korkmaz the scoring wing from Turkey looks like a baller.

aim2please · Post #777 » by **aim2please** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 3:03 pm

If we don't get lucky and end up with Top 3 pick, I hope we can find a deal and trade it. I know it's only January but it looks like it's a two man draft (Simmons and Ingram) with a wild card Bender.

Obviously, there's going to be a guy picked 17th who's going to be a borderline all-star, but it's hard to project outliers like Jimmy Butler and Leonard. And no, no one though Kawhi is going to be a super star. Not even Spurs.

If I had to guess I would say it's going to be Luwawu. This guy should be Top 10 in this draft, on potential alone. 6'7'' with a 7'2'' wingspan who can make 3s. His bust scenario is Thabo Sefolosha. He's projected 15th at DraftExpress.

Spoiler:

What's up with those jerseys? On sale at Walmart?

Random idea for a drinking game. Take a shot every time Jamal Murray goes left. Make sure you have 911 on speed dial. Hot comparison of the day: Murray is Kendall Marshall if you replace playmaking with scoring. Who can he defend in the NBA?

Disclaimer, I thought Porzingis is going to be a solid role player like Spencer Hawes was his first 5-6 years, not a potential star. So, yeah, I'm far from expert. But I'm still better than Chad Ford, amirite

Homerclease · Post #778 » by **Homerclease** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 3:10 pm

aim2please wrote:If we don't get lucky and end up with Top 3 pick, I hope we can find a deal and trade it. I know it's only January but it looks like it's a two man draft (Simmons and Ingram) with a wild card Bender.

Obviously, there's going to be a guy picked 17th who's going to be a borderline all-star, but it's hard to project outliers like Jimmy Butler and Leonard. And no, no one though Kawhi is going to be a super star. Not even Spurs.

If I had to guess I would say it's going to be Luwawu. This guy should be Top 10 in this draft, on potential alone. 6'7'' with a 7'2'' wingspan who can make 3s. His bust scenario is Thabo Sefolosha. He's projected 15th at DraftExpress.

Spoiler:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msd4OQimjDI[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRgX1n-qox8[/youtube]

What's up with those jerseys? On sale at Walmart?

Random idea for a drinking game. Take a shot every time Jamal Murray goes left. Make sure you have 911 on speed dial. Hot comparison of the day: Murray is Kendall Marshall if you replace playmaking with scoring. Who can he defend in the NBA?

Disclaimer, I thought Porzingis is going to be a solid role player like Spencer Hawes was his first 5-6 years, not a potential star. So, yeah, I'm far from expert. But I'm still better than Chad Ford, amirite

Gonna have to disagree on this one, I'd be more than happy to walk away with a Poeltl or Rabb if the pick falls in the 4-8 range. Celtics need help in the front court next year and I'm not sure they are going to find it in free agency

Cornbread · Post #779 » by **Cornbread** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 3:18 pm

I think having two guys as good as Simmons and Ingram on January 2nd is a great thing because it is extremely likely that SOMEONE will see their stock jump in the next few months. Best bets are Dunn or Bender, but Brown, Rabb and Poeltl have a shot too.

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aim2please · Post #780 » by **aim2please** » Sat Jan 2, 2016 3:43 pm

Homerclease wrote:Gonna have to disagree on this one, I'd be more than happy to walk away with a Poeltl or Rabb if the pick falls in the 4-8 range. Celtics need help in the front court next year and I'm not sure they are going to find it in free agency

If you're cool with drafting Thadeus Young type player with 5th pick, that's fine with me.

My point was that if you pick 5th in this draft, chances are you'll draft a solid player. It's not good enough for us. Nets' pick is our best chance for major improvement. If we fail to get an all star type player with it (drafting a guy with major upside like Simmons or trading pick for an impact player) we're on a road to become a treadmill team. It's just a way it is. One of those picks has to turn into gold because Durants of this world are not coming here to play with IT and Poeltl.

Again, nothing wrong with Dunn or Rabb or Poeltl, I'm sure they're going to be solid players but we already have 8 solid role players on our team. Odds of Poeltl having a MUCH better career than Olynyk are not high. But all those kids are unknown so we can project and dream. Until they play a game and they look lost.

Poeltl and Dunn were projected as a late lotto/ mid round picks last year before they withdrew. Year later they are high lotto picks. Soon to be 22 year old guard is killing it this year and now he's Top5 pick? Next Wade? Wishful thinking IMO.