The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many

Fidel Sarcasmo · Post #761 » by **Fidel Sarcasmo** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:03 pm

KumaJG wrote:At least we not maxing Barnes.

i dont even want him in on a team friendly contract

ConstableGeneva · Post #762 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:58 pm

From Kevin Pelton's recent chat:

Afam · Post #763 » by **Afam** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:10 pm

Celtics are not the second best team in the east. It still the Cavs and the Raptors. Maybe the Pacers. I put the Celtics around 4 or 5.

ConstableGeneva · Post #764 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:13 pm

Fair assessment, good read on Celtics post-draft:
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/6/24/12022864/boston-celtics-nba-draft-2016-recap-danny-ainge

Post #765 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:14 pm

Raptors could easily lose DeRozan, Afam. If that happens, we should easily surpass them.

Indy is going to be quite good though-- Teague/PG13/Thad/Turner could be a very exciting team. They've had a great off season

Post #766 » by **canman1971** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:17 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:From Kevin Pelton's recent chat:

I do feel Pelton is one of the only "realistic" guys on ESPN. But most of the minions would rather listen to the Jalen Rose and Chad Ford type morons.

ConstableGeneva · Post #767 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:23 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Raptors could easily lose DeRozan, Afam. If that happens, we should easily surpass them.

Indy is going to be quite good though-- Teague/PG13/Thad/Turner could be a very exciting team. They've had a great off season

Indy would be good offensively and will now have that small-ball run-and-gun team Bird envisioned for last season. But there are question marks about their shooting efficiency and defense. No one on that starting five other than PG can defend at an above average level if they can't retain Mahinmi.

Anyway, it's hard to say which team would be behind Cavs in the East on paper when offseason has barely started.

truth18 · Post #768 » by **truth18** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:26 pm

Number two in the East? How about we let the rosters settle first.

Edit: god damn Crowder

Afam · Post #769 » by **Afam** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:26 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Raptors could easily lose DeRozan, Afam. If that happens, we should easily surpass them.

Indy is going to be quite good though-- Teague/PG13/Thad/Turner could be a very exciting team. They've had a great off season

I agree with that . I added the Raptors only if they retain Derozan.

ConstableGeneva · Post #770 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:38 pm

truth18 wrote:Number two in the East? How about we let the rosters settle first.

Edit: god damn Crowder

Re your edit: ???

truth18 · Post #771 » by **truth18** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:38 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:
truth18 wrote:Number two in the East? How about we let the rosters settle first.

Edit: god damn Crowder

Re your edit: ???

You said the same thing I said in the post right above me, haha.

Post #772 » by **canman1971** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:42 pm

truth18 wrote:Number two in the East? How about we let the rosters settle first.

Edit: god damn Crowder

I know right. It's the day after the draft and people are already seeding teams for the playoffs or lottery if you are Afam :wink:

That being said, Pelton is pretty solid IMO.

ConstableGeneva · Post #773 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:43 pm

truth18 wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:
truth18 wrote:Number two in the East? How about we let the rosters settle first.

Edit: god damn Crowder

Re your edit: ???

You said the same thing I said in the post right above me, haha.

Oh right. Predictions are dumb, but it doesn't stop us from making them.

truth18 · Post #774 » by **truth18** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:44 pm

canman1971 wrote:
truth18 wrote:Number two in the East? How about we let the rosters settle first.

Edit: god damn Crowder

I know right. It's the day after the draft and people are already seeding teams for the playoffs or lottery if you are Afam That being said, Pelton is pretty solid IMO.

I like Pelton but I think its ridiculous to make such an early prediction.

A lot of things need to happen before we get the second seed, mainly Toronto being dismantled in a significant way and the Knicks not overachieving (also remains to be seen if they acquire Howard). At least we know Casey is still there, lol. That's a positive for sure.

Fidel Sarcasmo · Post #775 » by **Fidel Sarcasmo** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:48 pm

Afam wrote:Celtics are not the second best team in the east. It still the Cavs and the Raptors. Maybe the Pacers. I put the Celtics around 4 or 5.

The Pacers just got good in a hurry with Jeff Teague and Thad Young joining them. I agree.

Post #776 » by **canman1971** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:50 pm

truth18 wrote:
canman1971 wrote:
truth18 wrote:Number two in the East? How about we let the rosters settle first.

Edit: god damn Crowder

I know right. It's the day after the draft and people are already seeding teams for the playoffs or lottery if you are Afam That being said, Pelton is pretty solid IMO.

I like Pelton but I think its ridiculous to make such an early prediction.

A lot of things need to happen before we get the second seed, mainly Toronto being dismantled in a significant way and the Knicks not overachieving (also remains to be seen if they acquire Howard). At least we know Casey is still there, lol. That's a positive for sure.

Oh of course. I don't think he was saying it definitively, but more speculative. I am no fan of Toronto, Atlanta or Indiana, but you are correct, a lot has to play out.

Post #777 » by **djFan71** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:07 pm

canman1971 wrote:
truth18 wrote:
canman1971 wrote:I know right. It's the day after the draft and people are already seeding teams for the playoffs or lottery if you are Afam That being said, Pelton is pretty solid IMO.

I like Pelton but I think its ridiculous to make such an early prediction.

A lot of things need to happen before we get the second seed, mainly Toronto being dismantled in a significant way and the Knicks not overachieving (also remains to be seen if they acquire Howard). At least we know Casey is still there, lol. That's a positive for sure.

Oh of course. I don't think he was saying it definitively, but more speculative. I am no fan of Toronto, Atlanta or Indiana, but you are correct, a lot has to play out.

He literally used the word "potentially" end up No. 2, so I think you're right. :-)

Andrew McCeltic · Post #778 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:12 pm

Do we want a separate free agency thread, or are we using this one?

Post #779 » by **165bows** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:39 am

truth18 wrote:
canman1971 wrote:
truth18 wrote:Number two in the East? How about we let the rosters settle first.

Edit: god damn Crowder

I know right. It's the day after the draft and people are already seeding teams for the playoffs or lottery if you are Afam That being said, Pelton is pretty solid IMO.

I like Pelton but I think its ridiculous to make such an early prediction.

A lot of things need to happen before we get the second seed, mainly Toronto being dismantled in a significant way and the Knicks not overachieving (also remains to be seen if they acquire Howard). At least we know Casey is still there, lol. That's a positive for sure.

Thing with Toronto to me is they are so Lowry dependent. If he gets more cases of the owies they become ordinary pretty quick.

Knicks I think are classic Knicks hype, they aren't going anywhere right now IMO.

Celts can be #2 but they need to play better and add one more real scorer.

GoCeltics123 · Post #780 » by **GoCeltics123** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:02 am

So um Jae, 3 and 16 was our offer or Chicago's?

EDIT: Bulpett's article on Danny was interesting but really just confirmed what we knew before...he tries to win EVERY trade, which costs him when a deal help both sides.