Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. "He works hard for the money" Agrees to 4 year 52$ million deal page 32

[brackdan70]

Unofficial

Marcus Smart:
2018-19 -- Contract details by year -- $11,607,143 -- Age 24
2019-20 -- Contract details by year -- $12,535,714 -- Age 25
2020-21 -- Contract details by year -- $13,464,286 -- Age 26
2021-22 -- Contract details by year -- $14,392,857 -- Age 27

That would be roughly just under 1/9 of the cap. Very similar to the Bradley deal.

[CTCeltsFan34]

People who don't like Marcus:

LMAO BEAUTIFUL . Cat kisses cure everything lol

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[BRUNiNHO91]

People worry so goddamn much about minutes as if foul trouble doesn't happen, favorable match ups, overtime games, back to back games, bad games from the starters, rest..and heyyy did I mention INJURIES? You know..as Celtics fans we should all **** know that injuries happen by now..

Tired of all the whining and complaining about everything on this board. Now that this is over, can't wait to see all the idiot penny pinching cap 'geniuses' thinking of different ways of trading Morris and Rozier to save Wyc from the luxury tax..as if the professionals making millions of dollars haven't already decided which way to go if that really is a problem.

I feel you, but you need a nap bro. It’s a forum. Full of crazy Celtic fanatics. Not sure what your expecting in a Marcus Smart thread regarding money.

I just woke up from a nap though..


I'm a crazy Celtic fanatic..I love those type of people. My issue is with the 'Durr he can't shoot I would never give him more than 5 million a year because I know more than Ainge and Stevens and everybody else working for the Boston Celtics for 15 years' type of ****..I understand if this was Sacramento or Orlando but what move has Ainge made before that makes people really think they can question him like this?

[Darth Celtic]

I don't trust the sportshub crew sources if they even have one. Not legit. If Kyrie was a threat to leave, he would have traded him for Kawhi Leonard. Nothing to see here. They want ratings so they throwing everything on the hope and see what sticks. Best to ignore them. Kyrie will re-sign once the season is over.

Rumor has it that is what Ainge offered, along with a pick, and the spurs had no interest.

You mean the one Reload completely smashed apart as 100% untrue? Got it. Moving on.

[rickrolled]

What if Smarts "very tradable" contract isnt so tradable a year from now?

What superstar will be available? Dont even say AD he aint coming to Boston.

Teams trading their superstar would like expiring contracts, not someone owed 3/40 and is a one way player that doesnt think Any shot is a bad shot?

[BRUNiNHO91]

I don't trust the sportshub crew sources if they even have one. Not legit. If Kyrie was a threat to leave, he would have traded him for Kawhi Leonard. Nothing to see here. They want ratings so they throwing everything on the hope and see what sticks. Best to ignore them. Kyrie will re-sign once the season is over.

Rumor has it that is what Ainge offered, along with a pick, and the spurs had no interest.

You mean the one Reload completely smashed apart as 100% untrue? Got it. Moving on.

I don't know what's worse..saying that we would have traded Kyrie if he was a threat to leave for Kawhi who is an even bigger threat to leaave..or believe the Spurs would turn Kyrie down when they just took DeMar "De more I say it De less I like it' DeRozan.

[canman1971]

Fair deal and anyone suggesting otherwise just doesn’t get basketball. “No one showed interest”. No ****. They knew the market and if they offered 12-13m per yer the Celtics would match. Because that’s the player he is. Trust me I have my issues at times with his shooting but he is a winning ball player.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I don't trust the sportshub crew sources if they even have one. Not legit. If Kyrie was a threat to leave, he would have traded him for Kawhi Leonard. Nothing to see here. They want ratings so they throwing everything on the hope and see what sticks. Best to ignore them. Kyrie will re-sign once the season is over.

Rumor has it that is what Ainge offered, along with a pick, and the spurs had no interest.

You mean the one Reload completely smashed apart as 100% untrue? Got it. Moving on.

I think reload is great and he is near perfect when he reports news. This is nothing against him at all it is just I have been hearing this all over the place that Irving wants NY. No one knows what Irving is thinking.

[SMTBSI]

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$32,658 beyond being able to dodge the tax by giving away Yabusele.

$29,772 if Nader is sucessfully given away with cash and Bird is signed.

Hard for me to believe it's actually an exact 4/52, if those are the kinds of tiny margins we're talking about. You really can't tweak it by 30k to give yourself much greater flexibility?

4/51.86 is all it would have taken.


Edit: Whoops, off by an order of magnitude. 300k, not 30k. Still hard to understand how they couldn't have settled at 4/50.5

[JJHondo17]

As Someone who always defaults on the Marcus Smart side of the ledger, I am very happy he is returning for more than the one year QO. I was thinking more like $48M/4 at 9M/11M/13M/15M but it's close enough. And for those people who want to quote James Stewart as a potential Celtic's insider, GTFOH, he's an insider by default because you got Felger who's a hockey guy, Mazz, who's a baseball guy, Jim Murray whose their football guy which leaves James Stewart (nuff said!!)

[tlee324]

Congrats to him and his family. I thought it’d be around 3yrs/33 or 4/44; this is a bit high, but not earth shattering. Hopefully he’ll be able to play over 70 games, learn how to shoot, and play more to his strengths on offense overall.

[Roddy]

People who don't like Marcus:

I hate cats...

[Darth Celtic]

Rumor has it that is what Ainge offered, along with a pick, and the spurs had no interest.

You mean the one Reload completely smashed apart as 100% untrue? Got it. Moving on.

I think reload is great and he is near perfect when he reports news. This is nothing against him at all it is just I have been hearing this all over the place that Irving wants NY. No one knows what Irving is thinking.

Consider your sources. If they are famous NYK homers, or guys like Jimmy Steward (whoever the **** that is), and the RealGm general board, come on.

I was hanging out on a pig farm last weekend and all the pigs told me rolling around in **** and eating slop is the greatest thing in the world. Upon further investigation, I made my own conclusion and avoided it.

[Edug27]

People worry so goddamn much about minutes as if foul trouble doesn't happen, favorable match ups, overtime games, back to back games, bad games from the starters, rest..and heyyy did I mention INJURIES? You know..as Celtics fans we should all **** know that injuries happen by now..

Tired of all the whining and complaining about everything on this board. Now that this is over, can't wait to see all the idiot penny pinching cap 'geniuses' thinking of different ways of trading Morris and Rozier to save Wyc from the luxury tax..as if the professionals making millions of dollars haven't already decided which way to go if that really is a problem.

I feel you, but you need a nap bro. It’s a forum. Full of crazy Celtic fanatics. Not sure what your expecting in a Marcus Smart thread regarding money.

I just woke up from a nap though..


I'm a crazy Celtic fanatic..I love those type of people. My issue is with the 'Durr he can't shoot I would never give him more than 5 million a year because I know more than Ainge and Stevens and everybody else working for the Boston Celtics for 15 years' type of ****..I understand if this was Sacramento or Orlando but what move has Ainge made before that makes people really think they can question him like this?

There are 3 types of posters. The one who cheers on everything their team does... the one who has negative comments about everything their team does.. and the one who enjoys playing keyboard GM on a forum and gives their personal opinion on each move, whether they liked it or not.

Just because you didn’t like the Kawhi trade doesn’t mean you think you know more than Pop or RC. Just because you disliked Brads lineup to end the game doesn’t mean you think you know more about baskeball sets than he does. You’re allowed to question people smarter than you. Otherwise this forum would just be.. well.. it would be like watching Nick Wright talk about Lebron.

Or maybe I need a nap and I’m off base here. Idk. I did just eat chipotle for lunch and that always makes me sleepy.

[bucknersrevenge]

really sucks to over-payed for an energy-role player whose career isn't trending-up. as smart was a product of the system and wouldn't fit 90% of other team schemes there was no reason to gift him this contact, next year he would've been the same predicament... stuck with his stupid agent w/o a contract. personally i think developing rozier another year would've been best.

They're not gonna develop Rozier anymore??

[smith2373]

Half the teams in the league are trying to be bad. He'd start for OKC, New Orleans, Minnesota, Memphis, and Dallas. Teams that have money are usually the ones trying to lose.

He wouldn’t start for OKC. Roberson’s defense is arguably just as good, he has the size to be even more versatile, and though he is an offensive liability, the Thunder already have Westbrook chucking long jumpers, I don’t think they want a 2nd.

He wouldn’t start for Minnesota or Dallas either

Ability to win a 3 pt shooting contest aside, Smart is a much better offensive player than Roberson. The Celtics are better offensively with Marcus Smart on the floor than off the floor.

Dallas would go with 3 guards. Finney-Smith isn't tenable at the 3. They might be wedded to Dennis Smith Jr. but he's horrible, and at some point they're going to want to actually win games.

Teague has been a disaster for Minnesota and their lack of defensive aptitude as a team is blowing up whatever they wanted to build there. Bringing Teague off the bench and having Smart lead the starting lineup at that end would be a no-brainer.

Its fine to agree to disagree I guess. I think people who are calling this Ainge bidding against himself or whatever are being intellectually dishonest. Say you lose Smart - one of your top 5 players in MPG last season, who has been one of your best players by any metric other than FG% - for nothing. Now are you going to pay Rozier whatever the hell he wants? What if Irving bolts? What if the fantasy trade becomes a realistic possibility and you need a player to attach to Brown/Tatum/top pick/whatever? Until then you were going to need to trade Irving or Horford just to make the salaries match in a trade for a max player, and rob Peter to pay Paul.

It seems to me that most angst about this is grounded in 1) an unrealistically bullish view of the best-case scenario (Irving staying in Boston, perfect health) and 2) a blinkered view of Smart's contributions that exists in spite of his contribution to the bottom line

You cannot start Smart, Wiggins, Butler & Taj Gibson together. I think Teague is overrated and overpaid but benching him for Smart would make that team worse.

You do realize Dallas drafted Luka Doncic right? Harrison Barnes will be their 3

Like I’ve said Smart has a role on this team, but that role and the money he’s being paid don’t correlate. Additionally, throughout the history of the NBA, overpaying someone when you were bidding against yourself generally backfires.

We can agree to disagree that’s fine

[tombattor]

Also, Smart played 30.4 MPG in the 2016 season, and 29.9 MPG in the 2017 season.

We're going to have starting caliber players on the bench, since we're good. But calling him a bench player when he's proven he can be a top 5 cog in a top 2 team in a conference is pretty disingenuous.

But he is a bench player and with Hayward hopefully coming back that changes the minutes the rotation. Seeing how well Rozier has improved he should easily be getting minutes in the rotation as well.

Guy wouldn’t start for the majority of teams in the league, won’t start for this team unless multiple players get injured, but we can’t call him a bench player

Call him a bench player if that makes you happy. Who cares? Isn't it great that we have a starting caliber guy coming off the bench? Sure, he may not start over Harden and CP3, but he'll definitely start over guys in NY. And NY fans actually want Smart. They think of him as the perfect, hard-nosed defensive-minded player. So he's not trash to everyone. Just to you.

Besides, Celtics have a history of stud bench players... like McHale and Hondo

[tombattor]

Guy wouldn’t start for the majority of teams in the league, won’t start for this team unless multiple players get injured, but we can’t call him a bench player

Half the teams in the league are trying to be bad. He'd start for OKC, New Orleans, Minnesota, Memphis, and Dallas. Teams that have money are usually the ones trying to lose.

He wouldn’t start for OKC. Roberson’s defense is arguably just as good, he has the size to be even more versatile, and though he is an offensive liability, the Thunder already have Westbrook chucking long jumpers, I don’t think they want a 2nd.

He wouldn’t start for Minnesota or Dallas either

Come on now. I know you don't like Smart, but even you gotta admit that you're just throwing any trash out there.

[bucknersrevenge]

What if Smarts "very tradable" contract isnt so tradable a year from now?

What superstar will be available? Dont even say AD he aint coming to Boston.

Teams trading their superstar would like expiring contracts, not someone owed 3/40 and is a one way player that doesnt think Any shot is a bad shot?

Not sure I understand this question here: What if it isn't? What if it is?

What superstar will be available? Who knows. That's how these league works. You never know.

Right. Don't say PG is staying in OKC. Don't say the Spurs are trading Kawhi. Don't say.......

If we don't trade Marcus, well I guess he plays then. Seeing as how will be still paying him to play.

[tombattor]

What if Smarts "very tradable" contract isnt so tradable a year from now?

What superstar will be available? Dont even say AD he aint coming to Boston.

Teams trading their superstar would like expiring contracts, not someone owed 3/40 and is a one way player that doesnt think Any shot is a bad shot?

Don't worry. If we are trying trading for AD, Smart won't be the one holding us back. It will be whether we want to send both Tatum and Brown, on top of whatever else they are asking for.