Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 2

[exculpatory]

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2766117

HQ + azithromycin = not efficacious in seriously ill COVID-19 patients.
Await the results of optimally designed studies.

Don’t you think we are chasing our tail here with HQ?

Early results arent promising, and the only reason it has this visibility is that the president pushes it. If there wasn’t a political reason to pursue, would we have cut bait on the studies?

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There was a very large amount of anecdotal evidence that HQ + azithromycin was indeed efficacious.
Anecdotal evidence, however, as has been known forever, can be EXTREMELY misleading.
All things considered, IMO, it is worthwhile to let the ongoing, prospective, randomized trials play out & see what they show - in BOTH severely ill patients (where observational studies like the one just reported in JAMA have so far not demonstrated efficacy) & also in mild-moderately Ill patients.
And the **** QTc interval should be determined prior to treatment & carefully monitored during treatment in ALL patients in EVERY **** study (as per my other recent HQ post that you also responded to).
When non-medical people run their mouths about medical stuff (especially dangerously stupid jackwads with the insight of a mother **** ameba), it makes my head explode. His tongue should be glued to his palate.
Gotta run - time for my daily IV Lysol infusion.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

[exculpatory]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

Jesus, Joe.
I am so sorry.

[Slax]

Great article on policies that could be put in place to combat covid more effectively: https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/5/13/21248157/testing-quarantine-masks-stimulus?utm_campaign=mattyglesias&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

[Slax]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

Really sorry to hear about this man. I hope your mom and her boyfriend recover quickly.

[exculpatory]

For SuperDeluxe:

https://apple.news/AkbZcWCUfTCCP5kwJg73DCQ

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Prayers out for you and your family, JB. I am sending you positive vibes, hoping for the best possible outcome.

[theman]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

Good luck. Hopefully she comes out of it ok. If she doesn't have a fever that is obviously a good sign.

[Bad-Thoma]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

So sorry to hear that JB, I know thoughts and prayers don't count for much but I'm still sending them.

[Celts17Pride]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

I wish your mom, grandmother and your mom’s boyfriend the very best and a speedy recovery.

[canman1971]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

Ugh, so sorry man. Thoughts and prayers to you and your family.

[Parliament10]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

Prayers for your Family.

[SuperDeluxe]

Unfortunately my mother has it. She is not in the best health to start with. She ended up breaking her hip falling. Long and the short is she had surgery, ended up in a nursing home (which is ground zero at this point for the virus) for rehab and when she came home she had it. She seems okay, she has not had a fever in a few days and is not on a ventilator.

Her boyfriend was tested yesterday and likely has it. The problem is he takes care of everything for her and on top of that my grandmother, who is getting senile, is living with them. The guy is a complete saint taking care of my mother and my grandmother. I spoke to him Sunday and it was sad to hear him say "if something happens to me who is going to take care of you mom, grandmother and the dog?"

The main problem if something does happen to him I simply don't have the capacity to take my mom and grandmother in because neither of them can be left alone for any amount of time which is the main concern.

Sorry to hear, my man. Most people who get COVID recover, so you need to try to stay positive. You said she hasn't had fever in a few days, so that's a super-encouraging sign.

Best wishes from the north.

[SuperDeluxe]

For SuperDeluxe:

https://apple.news/AkbZcWCUfTCCP5kwJg73DCQ

Thanks for that. The article is mostly accurate. However, here in Montreal we are ****ed because:

1) despite the initial (tepid) measures taken by our provincial government, there were two weddings in early March with over 200 guests each that had a good chunk of people coming in from New York to attend. Everybody knew that NYC was in trouble back then, but the people were allowed in regardless and the weddings took place. That's when things started spinning out of control here.
2) Quebec's premier took too long to put his big-boy pants on and shut everything down, even after the consequences of the weddings above were becoming obvious.

[ConstableGeneva]

Watch on YouTube

Show this to protestors, never-maskers, covid-party peeps, and beach-goers who are exposing themselves (and others) to the virus. Maybe they want to volunteer. Don't let their cavalier attitude go to waste.

[claycarver]

Show this to protestors, never-maskers, covid-party peeps, and beach-goers who are exposing themselves (and others) to the virus. Maybe they want to volunteer. Don't let their cavalier attitude go to waste.

I don't share your concern with outdoor activities. From everything I'm reading, it's prolonged exposure indoors that creates the risk.

[ConstableGeneva]

Show this to protestors, never-maskers, covid-party peeps, and beach-goers who are exposing themselves (and others) to the virus. Maybe they want to volunteer. Don't let their cavalier attitude go to waste.

I don't share your concern with outdoor activities. From everything I'm reading, it's prolonged exposure indoors that creates the risk.

It's possible that the people below got infected elsewhere (indoors), but I still wouldn't discount the likelihood they got it from the outdoor events they attended. From my standpoint, better safe than sorry so I personally would still wear a mask and practice social distancing whenever I go outside. Oh, and you wouldn't catch me in a covid party among people who think infecting themselves would make them immune.

Protestors:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-wisconsin-protests-test-positive-department-of-health-services-a9509486.html

Spring Breakers:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/least-28-texas-spring-breakers-test-positive-covid-19-after-n1173231

[claycarver]

Show this to protestors, never-maskers, covid-party peeps, and beach-goers who are exposing themselves (and others) to the virus. Maybe they want to volunteer. Don't let their cavalier attitude go to waste.

I don't share your concern with outdoor activities. From everything I'm reading, it's prolonged exposure indoors that creates the risk.

It's possible that the people below got infected elsewhere (indoors), but I still wouldn't discount the likelihood they got it from the outdoor events they attended. From my standpoint, better safe than sorry so I personally would still wear a mask and practice social distancing whenever I go outside. Oh, and you wouldn't catch me in a covid party among people who think infecting themselves would make them immune.

Protestors:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-wisconsin-protests-test-positive-department-of-health-services-a9509486.html

Spring Breakers:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/least-28-texas-spring-breakers-test-positive-covid-19-after-n1173231

The college students chartered a plane together...and I'm guessing they didn't distance themselves from each other when they got to Mexico. It's surprising more of them weren't infected.

Protestors must have a higher percentage of cases among them having nothing to do with attending a rally...this is how they are living. It is highly unlikely that an outdoor protest rally is most risky activity they engaged in that day, much less the last 3 months.

Neither of these examples come close to addressing the excellent blog entry Floyd posted in this thread which explained the various threat levels for indoor and outdoor activities.

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

So by some miracle my mom is coming home on Saturday. I asked my wife last night, who is a nurse that works in the ER and deals with Corona, did you think she was going to survive this. She flat out said no I cannot believe she did.

I know that may sound morbid but my mother has so many health issues and has dodged so many bullets with her health quite frankly I cannot believe she's coming home.

Thanks to everybody on here for the support well-wishes and prayers! I appreciate each and everyone of you on here and I really mean that!

[SuperDeluxe]

So b some miracle my mom is coming home on Saturday. I asked my wife last night, who is a nurse that works in the ER and deals with Corona, did you think she was going to survive this. She flat out said no I cannot believe she did.

I know that may sound morbid but my mother has so many health issues and has dodged so many bullets with her health quite frankly I cannot believe she's coming home.

Thanks to everybody on here for the support well-wishes and prayers! I appreciate each and everyone of you on here and I really mean that!

In Spanish we say "hope is the last thing you lose," so there you go. Awesome news. You can relax a bit now.