Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

[Celts17Pride]

So anyway. What's the suspense?
Why is Hayward waiting?

He knows that he's going to Opt-in.
He knows that Celtics are going to Trade him.
AND, he knows that his home team wants him.

This is a No-Brainer, ain't it?
Let's get this shindig on the road.

NBA is not open for business until they decide the modified CBA. No transactions can be done

[Parliament10]

So anyway. What's the suspense?
Why is Hayward waiting?

He knows that he's going to Opt-in.
He knows that Celtics are going to Trade him.
AND, he knows that his home team wants him.

This is a No-Brainer, ain't it?
Let's get this shindig on the road.

NBA is not open for business until they decide the modified CBA. No transactions can be done

Yeah. I thought about that.
Hopefully the NBA/NBPA gets all this ironed out, sooner rather than later.

They had all that time that teams were in the Bubble, to work this out.
Get Crackin'!!!

[snowman]

Pretty simple trade idea really.

Hayward to Cleveland
Drummond and #26 to SA
Aldridge and #11 to Boston

Why for Cleveland:
Evens out Cleveland's roster, so as a not so heavy reliance on big's, and gives a former all star on the wing.

Why for SA:
Replaces a 35 year old big for a 27 year old big with similar stats, and still gives a pick in first round.

Why for Boston:
Gives Boston a big, even though he is 35 years old, but also gives Boston a better pick.

[tfribs45]

Pretty simple trade idea really.

Hayward to Cleveland
Drummond and #26 to SA
Aldridge and #11 to Boston

Why for Cleveland:
Evens out Cleveland's roster, so as a not so heavy reliance on big's, and gives a former all star on the wing.

Why for SA:
Replaces a 35 year old big for a 27 year old big with similar stats, and still gives a pick in first round.

Why for Boston:
Gives Boston a big, even though he is 35 years old, but also gives Boston a better pick.

Simple but not for Hayward. No way he opts in early to go play in Cleveland . Indiana is the perfect fit, I just hope GH is the only stud going.....

[Curmudgeon]

Aldridge is damaged goods. 35 years old and coming off shoulder surgery. Ever have shoulder surgery? I have (torn rotator cuff). The rehab is a complete b*tch. No way I want to trade for this player.

[GoCeltics123]

So anyway. What's the suspense?
Why is Hayward waiting?

He knows that he's going to Opt-in.
He knows that Celtics are going to Trade him.
AND, he knows that his home team wants him.

This is a No-Brainer, ain't it?
Let's get this shindig on the road.

I think it's extremely far from a guarantee, if we're being honest.

I still think there's at least a decent chance he's on the roster next year.

[Curmudgeon]

I have zero interest in Oladipo, who is rumored to want Miami. Oladipo also turned me off by trying to back out of the bubble, then agreeing to play when he realized he wouldn't get paid.

I will take Brogdon and Sabonis for Hayward and filler. Sabonis is way better than Turner if winning is the objective. For that package I'd even throw in Langford, another Indiana home town hero who is the kind of cheap talent that the Pacers want. I would also throw in Kanter if he opts in, but I'm keeping Time Lord. It is pretty obvious that the Pacers are are hurting financially and are in the process of blowing it up.

We'll see if Wyc and Co. are willing to pay the tax for a championship caliber team.

imagine thinking the Pacers would trade Sabonis straight up for Hayward. Then double down and imagine also them throwing in Brogdon. Good Lord. And 4 people upvoted your take. lol at this sub sometimes.

Stick to commenting about the subject at hand.
NOT the Posters that are presenting the subjects.

This is part of "personal attacks."
You're going to get an official warning next time.

~ Parl

Meh. I don't need you to defend me.

The Pacers are going to trade either Turner or Sabonis. That's obvious. Sure, they would rather keep Sabonis. But they may not have that luxury. This isn't about basketball value. It's about money. The Pacers just fired an expensive coach and hired the cheapest one they could find. That should tell you something right away. They are rebuilding because they can't afford the roster they have.

[100proof]

Gonna be fun watching all the pacer dans that have recently talked down hayward and talked up their assets screech at what will happen.

[captain green]

Let's fleece the pacers for a future pick if we do this right we can keep the multiple picks going a couple more years by dumping dipo and Hayward for future picks and getting the low grade center and shooter with picks is easier to swallow than the other borderline deals from Indiana

[Asian Celtic]

Seems like the easiest is

IND: Hayward, #8 for Dipo, Turner, Leaf
BOS: Bullock, Turner, $12.4M TPE for Hayward
NYK: Dipo, Leaf for #8, Bullock.

IND is basically revenue neutral with hayward/8. We get Turner, the TPE. Knicks gamble that Dipo is better than #8.

I don't even want Turner really, though....

I dont either. He’s a poor rebounding finesse big who gets pushed around by stronger centers. Hes better than Theis, but he has the same weaknesses as him and we would still be vulnerable in the same ways.

Same defensive problems but better offensive potential. Interesting.

[MagicBagley18]

So anyway. What's the suspense?
Why is Hayward waiting?

He knows that he's going to Opt-in.
He knows that Celtics are going to Trade him.
AND, he knows that his home team wants him.

This is a No-Brainer, ain't it?
Let's get this shindig on the road.

I think it's extremely far from a guarantee, if we're being honest.

I still think there's at least a decent chance he's on the roster next year.

Agreed. Internally maybe there is interest in Hayward to alleviate and make losing Oladipo easier and Indiana loves to sell its fan base on Indiana guys. Oladipo was supposed to be “their guy” his “town” and then he demanded or asked himself out by his salary request.

Still them taking on Hayward is a risk given his true health concerns. If he’s healthy, it’s an easy sell and a good move for Indiana from a basketball fit and even more from a marketability standpoint after losing a Hoosier in dipo but I just don’t think Indiana is gonna do that deal.

[ConstableGeneva]

As we go deeper into rumor season, this is just to remind everyone that NOT ALL RUMORS ARE TRUE. Those you like are sourced reporting that make a whole lot of sense. Those you don't like are baseless load of crap and should be ignored.

[reload141]

As we go deeper into rumor season, this is just to remind everyone that NOT ALL RUMORS ARE TRUE. Those you like are sourced reporting that makes a whole lot of sense. Those you don't like are baseless load of crap and should be ignored.

I've heard CrowderKeg wants back in..... we all know this forum isn't big enough for the both of you... tough decision coming up...

[ConstableGeneva]

Here's an article on Gordon Hayward purchasing an Indiana home back in July 2019:

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/2020/09/21/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-his-fishers-mansion/5805201002/

This move could be months in the making. We shouldn't be blindsided. He might even have requested a trade. Just something to add to the speculations.

While it's possible he just wanted his "summer home" to be moved from San Diego (sold March 2020) to Indiana, we'd be naive to ignore the pull of playing closer to his hometown and maybe finishing his career there.

[Ernest]

So is Indiana's plan to spend a lot less money next season (probably not be as good because of it) but have Hayward to keep the fans happy?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Hayward, in all likelihood, grew up a Pacers fan. His wife is from Indiana. And if Oladipo gets traded, Hayward will get more touches than he gets here, which works out well for his stats since he's going to be a free agent. His personal trainer is also in Indiana.

Last but not least, I'm sure Hayward will appreciate the lower pings when he's gaming with his buddies.

With that being said - does Ainge really want to do business with Pritchard again, considering the fact that the guy backed out of the Paul George deal a few years ago? That cost us a shot at trading up for Donovan Mitchell.

[Darthlukey]

Hayward, in all likelihood, grew up a Pacers fan. His wife is from Indiana. And if Oladipo gets traded, Hayward will get more touches than he gets here, which works out well for his stats since he's going to be a free agent. His personal trainer is also in Indiana.

Last but not least, I'm sure Hayward will appreciate the lower pings when he's gaming with his buddies.

With that being said - does Ainge really want to do business with Pritchard again, considering the fact that the guy backed out of the Paul George deal a few years ago? That cost us a shot at trading up for Donovan Mitchell.

Im not familiar with this Pritchard and Mitchell story, do tell? Sorry to derail

[themoneyteam2]

C’s had a deal for Paul George on draft night but Pritchard backed out. Ainge then had a deal lined up to trade up for Donovan Mitchell as well.

As much as people hate on him for drafting and what not (which I disagree with), Celtics front office is great at talent evaluation. Loved Herro this past draft, nailed the Brown and Tatum picks, and loved Mitchell as well

[big-shot-ROB]

Man, I'm going to laugh pretty hard next season when teams are destroying us with Turner's PnR defense and we have to watch Tatum & Brown create plays for others and play in the flow.

Most of you look stucked at 1970. Centers suck. They do not win championships. All top-5 players are playmaking wings + Davis (which doesn't play at all like a 5 and didn't win jack until he joined LeBron).

And you want to trade one of the most efficient 3s in the league for 6'11 Theis.

Our best shot at a champonship until Kemba's contract expires is next season with Hayward (unless we somehow manage to trade him). Our next best shot comes when Kemba is off the books and Hayward is long gone or at least expires then.

[flintsky21]

Actually guys, that Myles Turner is a pretty good defensive player.

https://www.bball-index.com/his-time-is-now-myles-turner-is-a-legit-defensive-player-of-the-year-candidate/

It's funny how soon the reports of Indiana being interested in Hayward comes out, suddenly we don't like Turner anymore. He sucks now. We want more. We want Sabonis and Brogdon. And add Bitadze and an unprotected 1st while we're at it. Amusing what the power of leverage does.

So even if Turner is just a "bit" better than Theis. Maybe that's all a team that nearly reached the finals need. I personally believe Turner is a better defensive center and definitely better offensively. I admittedly haven't watched much of him, but when people talk about the elite defensive bigs in the league, he's name is among those mentioned. He's also bigger than Theis and refs hate him less, so he'll be able to stay in the floor more. If we're always looking out for that perfect "Brad Steven's center," a rim protecting, switchable, stretch big, then we'd be perpetually looking for one because how many out there actually fits the bill? Turner is maybe the closest and one who is actually realistically acquirable.

If our trade asset is a Jaylen Brown, then yeah, maybe we can afford to be more choosy in what we're getting back. That's just not the case here.