"WCIHAoTDP?" - 2016 Draft Thread P.2

[brackdan70]

I wouldn't trade any of the Nets picks! They are just to good. Next years draft is supposed to be real good, and the Nets pick should be real high. The biggest danger to the Celtics future is DA doing some wild trade involving Nets picks like he wanted to with Charlotte last draft.

I don't think it ever really came out what picks were involved in the Charlotte offer. I doubt any Nets picks involved

[peachbucket]

Isaiah Thomas to represent the C's at lottery night.

I like it...he is the ultimate embodiment of defying the odds.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Isaiah Thomas to represent the C's at lottery night.

As long as he doesn't have to defend the pick.

[Captain_Caveman]

I used to think Simmons was the better fit for you guys but now I think it's Ingram by a Longshot. You guys are in desperate need of scorers. Simmons can't space the floor and doesn't score with his back to the basket. Plus Ingram will be another guy that can end up as a really good perimeter defender. I just think you guys and Ingram are the perfect fit

True, but never, ever, ever draft fit or need over talent at the top of the draft.

Always taking the BPA was Auerbach's oft-stated mantra, and highly unlikely that his protege would stray from that philosophy.

With that said, one can easily argue that Ingram is the BPA.

[Duke4life831]

I used to think Simmons was the better fit for you guys but now I think it's Ingram by a Longshot. You guys are in desperate need of scorers. Simmons can't space the floor and doesn't score with his back to the basket. Plus Ingram will be another guy that can end up as a really good perimeter defender. I just think you guys and Ingram are the perfect fit

True, but never, ever, ever draft fit or need over talent at the top of the draft.

Always taking the BPA was Auerbach's oft-stated mantra, and highly unlikely that his protege would stray from that philosophy.

With that said, one can easily argue that Ingram is the BPA.

I agree to take BPA. I do think Ingram is BPA or at least equal to Simmons. So if you have two equal prospects, give me the one that is over a year younger, elite length for his position and fits the need I have most for my team. I just think Ingram is the perfect fit and BPA. Now if Minnesota gets the pick I think they should go Simmons.

[Bar Fight]

Yeah, I want Ingram. Dude stepped up in the Tournament when it mattered most. Not to mention he was great almost all season. Simmons is incredibly talented, but his team was trash, and he didn't have the takeover/alpha mentality that I believe is necessary for a star.

[ConstableGeneva]

So it begins. Peter Jok (Iowa) and Jaron Blossomgame (Clemson) both have workouts with the Celtics. Probably better to just list guys who will NOT work out for the Cs.

[brackdan70]

So it begins. Peter Jok (Iowa) and Jaron Blossomgame (Clemson) both have workouts with the Celtics. Probably better to just list guys who will NOT work out for the Cs.

and with the 58th pick in the 2016 NBA draft the Boston Celtics select..... Peter Jok (Iowa) aka the Sudanese Ray Allan ....smattering of applause.

[Leprechaun18]

I wouldn't trade any of the Nets picks! They are just to good. Next years draft is supposed to be real good, and the Nets pick should be real high. The biggest danger to the Celtics future is DA doing some wild trade involving Nets picks like he wanted to with Charlotte last draft.

I don't think it ever really came out what picks were involved in the Charlotte offer. I doubt any Nets picks involved

Actually it included the this years Nets pick. That is way way to much to move up 6 spots. If MJ didn't fall in love with Kaminsky then we would be roasting DA atm.

[Chris4Vikes]

I wouldn't trade any of the Nets picks! They are just to good. Next years draft is supposed to be real good, and the Nets pick should be real high. The biggest danger to the Celtics future is DA doing some wild trade involving Nets picks like he wanted to with Charlotte last draft.

I don't think it ever really came out what picks were involved in the Charlotte offer. I doubt any Nets picks involved

Actually it included the this years Nets pick. That is way way to much to move up 6 spots. If MJ didn't fall in love with Kaminsky then we would be roasting DA atm.

Do you have proof of this? Ainge included the 2016 Nets pick? That would have been one of the worst trades in history if true. MJ would also look like a complete moron for turning that down.

[Kenhov]

Simmons is an incredible player.

Ingram is a better shooter which on face value translates well to what Boston and most of the leagues wants to be doing, but Simmons can have a Lebron like effect on games except on defence (which he can add).

Passing on Simmons for Ingram won't be a sin, but it will be a huge mistake IMO.

[lon3lytoaster]

I lean ever do slightly towards Simmons because I think you can you him and a Jimmy Butler acquisition as a sales pitch to Durant and Horford. The one thing I don't want is to have KD considering us and having a redundant Ingram on board.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

I lean ever do slightly towards Simmons because I think you can you him and a Jimmy Butler acquisition as a sales pitch to Durant and Horford. The one thing I don't want is to have KD considering us and having a redundant Ingram on board.

I don't even know if 3 max players is possible. If it is, you gut the bench depth.
I dare ask if we got a top two draft pick if it's even possible to keep it, acquire an existing allstar in a trade and then get KD. That would be the greatest fleece ever.

[lon3lytoaster]

I lean ever do slightly towards Simmons because I think you can you him and a Jimmy Butler acquisition as a sales pitch to Durant and Horford. The one thing I don't want is to have KD considering us and having a redundant Ingram on board.

I don't even know if 3 max players is possible. If it is, you gut the bench depth.
I dare ask if we got a top two draft pick if it's even possible to keep it, acquire an existing allstar in a trade and then get KD. That would be the greatest fleece ever.

The combined salary of Amir Johnson and Marcus Smart is almost a wash with Butler trade wise. If you remove Jerebko's 5m unguaranteed salary, add in about a 4.5-5m salary for the #1 pick you're looking at 40-41m in cap space. Would Horford go for a 16m base salary? Maybe. I can't see him getting too much more.

Roster would look like;

Isaiah Thomas
Kevin Durant
Ben Simmons
Al Horford
Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
Jimmy Butler
James Young
Terry Rozier
RJ Hunter
Jordan Mickey
Kelly Olynyk

Not bad.

[Jstock12]

I like Brice Johnson with the Dallas pick if he's there. Also Sabonis. I think he will be a good pro. We desperately need better bigs. If we get Durant it almost doesn't matter what we do in the draft. Hey, how bad must James Young be to not get PT when we're shorthanded and in need of offense? jeez

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[ConstableGeneva]

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[tlee324]

I'm warming up to Sabonis; maybe not with the 3rd pick, but you never know how the rankings will pan out after workouts. Things tend to switch around after the workouts and the rumor mill starts up. Sabonis in Green isn't something I'd be against, I feel.

We need bigs, but damn do we need shooters and scorers....might not get all the needs in the draft, especially when you're looking for BPA.

[Crossy2008]

I believe Simmons is more NBA ready than Ingram. Interesting how this draft has a LeBron vs Durant edge. Simmons has the LeBron comparisons and Ingram with the Durant comparisons. Neither player will likely be as good as either of those two.

I am trying to conjure up a scenario where we can somehow get both. Maybe if we get the first and if a team like Milwaukee gets the second pick, and decides they do not need an Ingram or Simmons with Parker and Giannis. The if Philly ended up with the third and fourth pick we could offer a package for one of them and use that to offer a package to Mil.

I have been fairly disappointed with the last two offseasons and I am probably better off preparing for more rather than continually stuffing dreams in the old pipe and smoking them.

[Darth Celtic]

I lean ever do slightly towards Simmons because I think you can you him and a Jimmy Butler acquisition as a sales pitch to Durant and Horford. The one thing I don't want is to have KD considering us and having a redundant Ingram on board.

I don't even know if 3 max players is possible. If it is, you gut the bench depth.
I dare ask if we got a top two draft pick if it's even possible to keep it, acquire an existing allstar in a trade and then get KD. That would be the greatest fleece ever.

It is possible, just not likely unless we trade.

Horford max is 21 million. That won't work to get KD too. But there are superstar max players out there at the 16million max. Trade roster fodder in Kelly O, James Y, and Bradley for one of these stars (with nets pick or whatever), sign KD at 25m, and Horford at 16M, would work.

[BfB]

I don't think it ever really came out what picks were involved in the Charlotte offer. I doubt any Nets picks involved

Actually it included the this years Nets pick. That is way way to much to move up 6 spots. If MJ didn't fall in love with Kaminsky then we would be roasting DA atm.

Do you have proof of this? Ainge included the 2016 Nets pick? That would have been one of the worst trades in history if true. MJ would also look like a complete moron for turning that down.

The Nets pick was never on the table - point blank, never.