The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

[31to6]

I wouldn't worry too much about a Ben Simmons to the Celtics trade.

The earliest that can happen is when Smart can be traded after January 25.

Right now I'm really intrigued by the idea of Christian Wood replacing Grant Williams as the 3rd big man for the Celts.

another way to put that is that you're really intrigued by something that has no chance of happening.

Related thought: our first round pick is getting dramatically over-valued in this thread.

Related thought #2: every team in the league could've had Christian Wood for peanuts a few years ago, I know it's much easier to say than do but 'let's find the next one'. With a 2% chance of being correct, I propose Daniel Oturu

[snowman]

I wouldn't worry too much about a Ben Simmons to the Celtics trade.

The earliest that can happen is when Smart can be traded after January 25.

Right now I'm really intrigued by the idea of Christian Wood replacing Grant Williams as the 3rd big man for the Celts.

another way to put that is that you're really intrigued by something that has no chance of happening.

Related thought: our first round pick is getting dramatically over-valued in this thread.

Related thought #2: every team in the league could've had Christian Wood for peanuts a few years ago, I know it's much easier to say than do but 'let's find the next one'. With a 2% chance of being correct, I propose Daniel Oturu :)

"I second that emotion"

[playa-hater]

I wouldn't worry too much about a Ben Simmons to the Celtics trade.

The earliest that can happen is when Smart can be traded after January 25.

Right now I'm really intrigued by the idea of Christian Wood replacing Grant Williams as the 3rd big man for the Celts.

another way to put that is that you're really intrigued by something that has no chance of happening.

Related thought: our first round pick is getting dramatically over-valued in this thread.

Related thought #2: every team in the league could've had Christian Wood for peanuts a few years ago, I know it's much easier to say than do but 'let's find the next one'. With a 2% chance of being correct, I propose Daniel Oturu :)

"I second that emotion"

is he still unsigned? Daniel Oturu's potential > Bruno.. he can shoot it far better.

[snowman]

OK, so here is an off the wall trade idea for you. Let me know what you think.


Boston trades G. Williams, J. Hernangomez, and Bruno Fernando to the Sacramento
Sacramento trades M. Bagley to Boston.

Why for Sacramento:
After this last stunt from Bagley, it would seem like the Kings are done with him and willing to move on. Hernangomez's contract is not guaranteed for 2022, and Fernando will be a FA, so Williams is the only salary that will move into next season for them, so no long term money. "In their eyes" at least Grant is playable, and Hernangomez and Fernando may get some run there.

Why for Boston:
Hernangomez and Fernando are only here for back up insurance. At least Bagley has proven he can play big minutes and get points and rebounds. I think he just needs a change of scenery and a good coaching staff like Boston's to bring him out. Being close to Tatum would help also. This would open up 2 roster spots that we would have to fill. Hauser would look good on the team full time. Our big man group would then be Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Bagley, Parker and anyone we sign to fill the two open spots. Like Oturu.

[playa-hater]

OK, so here is an off the wall trade idea for you. Let me know what you think.


Boston trades G. Williams, J. Hernangomez, and Bruno Fernando to the Sacramento
Sacramento trades M. Bagley to Boston.

Why for Sacramento:
After this last stunt from Bagley, it would seem like the Kings are done with him and willing to move on. Hernangomez's contract is not guaranteed for 2022, and Fernando will be a FA, so Williams is the only salary that will move into next season for them, so no long term money. "In their eyes" at least Grant is playable, and Hernangomez and Fernando may get some run there.

Why for Boston:
Hernangomez and Fernando are only here for back up insurance. At least Bagley has proven he can play big minutes and get points and rebounds. I think he just needs a change of scenery and a good coaching staff like Boston's to bring him out. Being close to Tatum would help also. This would open up 2 roster spots that we would have to fill. Hauser would look good on the team full time. Our big man group would then be Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Bagley, Parker and anyone we sign to fill the two open spots. Like Oturu.

I do that trade yesterday. But maybe Sac wouldn't because they are holding an inflated trade value for their lottery pick. Would Boston even do it? clearly talent of Bagley > Grant + change, but in Ime's eyes Grant is more switchable and a better locker-room player.

[CelticFaninLBC]

OK, so here is an off the wall trade idea for you. Let me know what you think.


Boston trades G. Williams, J. Hernangomez, and Bruno Fernando to the Sacramento
Sacramento trades M. Bagley to Boston.

Why for Sacramento:
After this last stunt from Bagley, it would seem like the Kings are done with him and willing to move on. Hernangomez's contract is not guaranteed for 2022, and Fernando will be a FA, so Williams is the only salary that will move into next season for them, so no long term money. "In their eyes" at least Grant is playable, and Hernangomez and Fernando may get some run there.

Why for Boston:
Hernangomez and Fernando are only here for back up insurance. At least Bagley has proven he can play big minutes and get points and rebounds. I think he just needs a change of scenery and a good coaching staff like Boston's to bring him out. Being close to Tatum would help also. This would open up 2 roster spots that we would have to fill. Hauser would look good on the team full time. Our big man group would then be Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Bagley, Parker and anyone we sign to fill the two open spots. Like Oturu.

Pass on Bagley. Need someone who plays defense and Bagley's about as bad as it gets.

I know he just got hurt, but Kelly Olynyk seems like a good fit, as a backup big.

[BK_2020]

We can get Bagley next off-season for the minimum, no need to trade for him.
If we need a big who can suck right away, well we have Bruno Fernando to fill that gap.

[snowman]

OK, so here is an off the wall trade idea for you. Let me know what you think.


Boston trades G. Williams, J. Hernangomez, and Bruno Fernando to the Sacramento
Sacramento trades M. Bagley to Boston.

Why for Sacramento:
After this last stunt from Bagley, it would seem like the Kings are done with him and willing to move on. Hernangomez's contract is not guaranteed for 2022, and Fernando will be a FA, so Williams is the only salary that will move into next season for them, so no long term money. "In their eyes" at least Grant is playable, and Hernangomez and Fernando may get some run there.

Why for Boston:
Hernangomez and Fernando are only here for back up insurance. At least Bagley has proven he can play big minutes and get points and rebounds. I think he just needs a change of scenery and a good coaching staff like Boston's to bring him out. Being close to Tatum would help also. This would open up 2 roster spots that we would have to fill. Hauser would look good on the team full time. Our big man group would then be Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Bagley, Parker and anyone we sign to fill the two open spots. Like Oturu.

Pass on Bagley. Need someone who plays defense and Bagley's about as bad as it gets.

I know he just got hurt, but Kelly Olynyk seems like a good fit, as a backup big.

I agree, but I doubt he would be available. Detroit just signed him to a three year deal this off season and I think he will be starting for them before long. Stewart (their starter now) is not the player Olynyk is.

[snowman]

We can get Bagley next off-season for the minimum, no need to trade for him.
If we need a big who can suck right away, well we have Bruno Fernando to fill that gap.

Bagley will be paid more than the min next season, may not be what his qualifying offer is, but I think it will be much more than the minimum. If we keep Bruno, I think he would be a good project big to have around. I do like his hustle, but he can't shoot what so ever.

[Celts17Pride]

If New Orleans decides to blow it up and go OKC's route then Stevens should be first in line to offer any/every young players and draft picks for Brandon Ingram. Brown/Tatum/Ingram would be very nice.

[CelticFaninLBC]

OK, so here is an off the wall trade idea for you. Let me know what you think.


Boston trades G. Williams, J. Hernangomez, and Bruno Fernando to the Sacramento
Sacramento trades M. Bagley to Boston.

Why for Sacramento:
After this last stunt from Bagley, it would seem like the Kings are done with him and willing to move on. Hernangomez's contract is not guaranteed for 2022, and Fernando will be a FA, so Williams is the only salary that will move into next season for them, so no long term money. "In their eyes" at least Grant is playable, and Hernangomez and Fernando may get some run there.

Why for Boston:
Hernangomez and Fernando are only here for back up insurance. At least Bagley has proven he can play big minutes and get points and rebounds. I think he just needs a change of scenery and a good coaching staff like Boston's to bring him out. Being close to Tatum would help also. This would open up 2 roster spots that we would have to fill. Hauser would look good on the team full time. Our big man group would then be Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Bagley, Parker and anyone we sign to fill the two open spots. Like Oturu.

Pass on Bagley. Need someone who plays defense and Bagley's about as bad as it gets.

I know he just got hurt, but Kelly Olynyk seems like a good fit, as a backup big.

I agree, but I doubt he would be available. Detroit just signed him to a three year deal this off season and I think he will be starting for them before long. Stewart (their starter now) is not the player Olynyk is.

Olynyk's out for at least 6 weeks with an injury. Can see Detroit tanking and trying to get a young asset for Olynyk. This draft has some good big men.

[31to6]

another way to put that is that you're really intrigued by something that has no chance of happening.

Related thought: our first round pick is getting dramatically over-valued in this thread.

Related thought #2: every team in the league could've had Christian Wood for peanuts a few years ago, I know it's much easier to say than do but 'let's find the next one'. With a 2% chance of being correct, I propose Daniel Oturu :)

"I second that emotion"

is he still unsigned? Daniel Oturu's potential > Bruno.. he can shoot it far better.

He's playing with the Windy City Bulls in the G-league, after being waived by the Chicago Bulls -- based only on a quick search I can't find anything saying he's signed to a 'two-way' spot with them, so he may be a FA.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/daniel-oturu-leads-windy-city-with-22-points/

6'10", 240, 7'4" wingspan -- not as explosive or fluid an athlete as Christian Wood, but him, Harry Giles, Deyonta Davis ... some day I'll be right about one of these guys (I think Davis is out of pro hoops).

[CelticFaninLBC]

Juancho, Pritchard and Bruno for Olynyk

[Larry_Russell]

Schroder, juancho, kanter and tpe are the logical pieces we can move imo.

The returns wont be earth shattering, but a backup pg who can defend and hit an outside shot would be a great start

Rubio quietly having a real solid season too.

Maybe a candidate into the tpe? Obviously not a part of clevelands future.

[Fierce1]

Schroder, juancho, kanter and tpe are the logical pieces we can move imo.

The returns wont be earth shattering, but a backup pg who can defend and hit an outside shot would be a great start

Rubio quietly having a real solid season too.

Maybe a candidate into the tpe? Obviously not a part of clevelands future.

Rubio doesn't fit the TPE.

[Bill Lumbergh]

OK, so here is an off the wall trade idea for you. Let me know what you think.


Boston trades G. Williams, J. Hernangomez, and Bruno Fernando to the Sacramento
Sacramento trades M. Bagley to Boston.

Why for Sacramento:
After this last stunt from Bagley, it would seem like the Kings are done with him and willing to move on. Hernangomez's contract is not guaranteed for 2022, and Fernando will be a FA, so Williams is the only salary that will move into next season for them, so no long term money. "In their eyes" at least Grant is playable, and Hernangomez and Fernando may get some run there.

Why for Boston:
Hernangomez and Fernando are only here for back up insurance. At least Bagley has proven he can play big minutes and get points and rebounds. I think he just needs a change of scenery and a good coaching staff like Boston's to bring him out. Being close to Tatum would help also. This would open up 2 roster spots that we would have to fill. Hauser would look good on the team full time. Our big man group would then be Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Bagley, Parker and anyone we sign to fill the two open spots. Like Oturu.

I'm in. Probably would not cost much at all. I don't know what his issues are, but he does have talent, and he is young, and he plays a position of need. Let's face it, Grant has no upside, and is really too small for the job.

[Curmudgeon]

Bagley is hurt all the time. I'm happy to get him, but I'm not offering much.

If you want the next sleeper who will become a very good NBA player, that's easy: Usman Garuba.

[Floody100]

Pritchard is older than Tatum. If Pritchard was any good he wouldn't be sitting on the bench, or at least be a 2nd string.

These are all pretty extreme takes. Pritchard is not, and most likely will not, become FVV. He is better than he's shown this season though; we've seen tons of players struggle with a mask. Pritchard is a solid player. Just because he's not AS good as FVV doesn't mean he's not good.

So the 1st round Pritchard, who put up 21-4-5 shooting 41% from three in college, then had a PER 36 of 15-5-3 and 41% as a rookie... for some odd reason, can't possible be as good as undrafted FVV who had similar PER 36 his first three seasons until he got the chance to start? Okay. Clearly he isn't going to get the chance to start here and prove me right but I'll die on this hill. If he did start, it'd give us our best chance to win. And if the Jays shared the ball, he'd put up FVV numbers and production. Sucks we'll never find out though. At this point I'd rather he and Nesmith be traded so they can play. Watching them sit behind undeserving vets doesn't sit well with me.

Should he still start ?

[Larry_Russell]

Juancho and Kanter for Bagley3 (would love to include Nesmith or Romeo or Pritchard and get Davion Mitchell, maybe that is do-able?)

If no Davion then Schroder to Detroit for Killian Hayes.

[Larry_Russell]

Juancho, Pritchard and Romeo

for

Bagley 3 and Mitchell

Schroder/Mitchell
Smart/Nesmith
Brown/Richardson
Tatum/Bagley
Williams/Horford.

IMO a much more balanced roster.