Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025

[leper-con]

I could see te Warriors tying to get Durant and Butler both on the same team. Not sure the trade machine machinations would allow it but they need to d something big for one last Hurrah

[ryan in Maine]

Imagine if we had traded Tatum to get Porzingis lol.

that is a good comparison.

Cornerstone wing of the franchise going for a high level 2 way big on the way down from their prime. I don't want to insult AD or Porzingis, but yesterday their value wasn't a franchise player in their prime. In fact, think about it for a minute --

AD is now functionally worth more than Luka. AD's value has been set at cornerstone player plus and Luka's value has been set at high level 2 way big plus. That's just the math.

Before the trade happened you would have assumed that Luka's value was a cornerstone player plus. And you know we're talking promising young players and picks. You would have assumed that AD's value, at least the ceiling of his value, would be a talented two-way big 1B guy. Who valued AD at cornerstone of your franchise level before the trade? Personally i have him on the outside looking in at that group. He'll be 32 before the snow melts. Not saying there aren't big AD believers out there, and still trying not to insult AD or Porzingis, but there's a reason the trade is generating such a strong reaction lol. The player values feel reversed.

What's this mean for us? For JT? Are there a lot of people who would trade JT for a practically 32 year old AD here?

Edit
And i still suspect Miriam Adelson will be at least lightly investigated for devaluing. AD's positive reputation around the league could be her one saving grace.

[ConstableGeneva]

I could see te Warriors tying to get Durant and Butler both on the same team. Not sure the trade machine machinations would allow it but they need to d something big for one last Hurrah

MIA gets Draymond, GP2, Hield, Moody, Santos
PHX gets Looney, Wiggins, Kuminga, Looney, Anderson
GSW gets Durant, Butler

Warriors have 7 players and are hard-capped at the 1st apron. LOL anything is possible.

[ConstableGeneva]

Imagine if we had traded Tatum to get Porzingis lol.

that is a good comparison.

Cornerstone wing of the franchise going for a high level 2 way big on the way down from their prime. I don't want to insult AD or Porzingis, but yesterday their value wasn't a franchise player in their prime. In fact, think about it for a minute --

AD is now functionally worth more than Luka. AD's value has been set at cornerstone player plus and Luka's value has been set at high level 2 way big plus. That's just the math.

Before the trade happened you would have assumed that Luka's value was a cornerstone player plus. And you know we're talking promising young players and picks. You would have assumed that AD's value, at least the ceiling of his value, would be a talented two-way big 1B guy. Who valued AD at cornerstone of your franchise level before the trade? Personally i have him on the outside looking in at that group. He'll be 32 before the snow melts. Not saying there aren't big AD believers out there, and still trying not to insult AD or Porzingis, but there's a reason the trade is generating such a strong reaction lol. The player values feel reversed.

What's this mean for us? For JT? Are there a lot of people who would trade JT for a practically 32 year old AD here?

We're overthinking this. Nico Harrison is an idiot who got spooked and/or did a friend a huge solid. This trade doesn't reset market/trade value of players on other teams.

[ryan in Maine]

that is a good comparison.

Cornerstone wing of the franchise going for a high level 2 way big on the way down from their prime. I don't want to insult AD or Porzingis, but yesterday their value wasn't a franchise player in their prime. In fact, think about it for a minute --

AD is now functionally worth more than Luka. AD's value has been set at cornerstone player plus and Luka's value has been set at high level 2 way big plus. That's just the math.

Before the trade happened you would have assumed that Luka's value was a cornerstone player plus. And you know we're talking promising young players and picks. You would have assumed that AD's value, at least the ceiling of his value, would be a talented two-way big 1B guy. Who valued AD at cornerstone of your franchise level before the trade? Personally i have him on the outside looking in at that group. He'll be 32 before the snow melts. Not saying there aren't big AD believers out there, and still trying not to insult AD or Porzingis, but there's a reason the trade is generating such a strong reaction lol. The player values feel reversed.

What's this mean for us? For JT? Are there a lot of people who would trade JT for a practically 32 year old AD here?


Edit
And i still suspect Miriam Adelson will be at least lightly investigated for devaluing. AD's positive reputation around the league could be her one saving grace.

We're overthinking this. Nico Harrison is an idiot who got spooked and/or did a friend a huge solid. This trade doesn't reset market/trade value of players on other teams.

I don't consider overthinking to be a problem. More like a way of life.

[ConstableGeneva]

Cornerstone wing of the franchise going for a high level 2 way big on the way down from their prime. I don't want to insult AD or Porzingis, but yesterday their value wasn't a franchise player in their prime. In fact, think about it for a minute --

AD is now functionally worth more than Luka. AD's value has been set at cornerstone player plus and Luka's value has been set at high level 2 way big plus. That's just the math.

Before the trade happened you would have assumed that Luka's value was a cornerstone player plus. And you know we're talking promising young players and picks. You would have assumed that AD's value, at least the ceiling of his value, would be a talented two-way big 1B guy. Who valued AD at cornerstone of your franchise level before the trade? Personally i have him on the outside looking in at that group. He'll be 32 before the snow melts. Not saying there aren't big AD believers out there, and still trying not to insult AD or Porzingis, but there's a reason the trade is generating such a strong reaction lol. The player values feel reversed.

What's this mean for us? For JT? Are there a lot of people who would trade JT for a practically 32 year old AD here?


Edit
And i still suspect Miriam Adelson will be at least lightly investigated for devaluing. AD's positive reputation around the league could be her one saving grace.

We're overthinking this. Nico Harrison is an idiot who got spooked and/or did a friend a huge solid. This trade doesn't reset market/trade value of players on other teams.

I don't consider overthinking to be a problem. More like a way of life.

Anyway, it doesn't mean anything for the Cs or JT's trade value. Unless Brad Stevens loses his mind/nuts.

[Darthlukey]

Cornerstone wing of the franchise going for a high level 2 way big on the way down from their prime. I don't want to insult AD or Porzingis, but yesterday their value wasn't a franchise player in their prime. In fact, think about it for a minute --

AD is now functionally worth more than Luka. AD's value has been set at cornerstone player plus and Luka's value has been set at high level 2 way big plus. That's just the math.

Before the trade happened you would have assumed that Luka's value was a cornerstone player plus. And you know we're talking promising young players and picks. You would have assumed that AD's value, at least the ceiling of his value, would be a talented two-way big 1B guy. Who valued AD at cornerstone of your franchise level before the trade? Personally i have him on the outside looking in at that group. He'll be 32 before the snow melts. Not saying there aren't big AD believers out there, and still trying not to insult AD or Porzingis, but there's a reason the trade is generating such a strong reaction lol. The player values feel reversed.

What's this mean for us? For JT? Are there a lot of people who would trade JT for a practically 32 year old AD here?


Edit
And i still suspect Miriam Adelson will be at least lightly investigated for devaluing. AD's positive reputation around the league could be her one saving grace.

We're overthinking this. Nico Harrison is an idiot who got spooked and/or did a friend a huge solid. This trade doesn't reset market/trade value of players on other teams.

I don't consider overthinking to be a problem. More like a way of life.

To quote the simpons, "I thought I was the only Millhouse"

[Darthlukey]

We're overthinking this. Nico Harrison is an idiot who got spooked and/or did a friend a huge solid. This trade doesn't reset market/trade value of players on other teams.

I don't consider overthinking to be a problem. More like a way of life.

Anyway, it doesn't mean anything for the Cs or JT's trade value. Unless Brad Stevens loses his mind/nuts.

Was thinking about it yesterday, and plenty might disagree with this take. But it appears as though a teams second best player is enough to get Luka (Lebron might be old, but he is still far better than AD) so in theory Jaylen would have been enough to get Luka (not advocating for that theoretical move, but that appears to be the world we live in).

[ConstableGeneva]

I don't consider overthinking to be a problem. More like a way of life.

Anyway, it doesn't mean anything for the Cs or JT's trade value. Unless Brad Stevens loses his mind/nuts.

Was thinking about it yesterday, and plenty might disagree with this take. But it appears as though a teams second best player is enough to get Luka (Lebron might be old, but he is still far better than AD) so in theory Jaylen would have been enough to get Luka (not advocating for that theoretical move, but that appears to be the world we live in).

The Mavs specifically wanted Davis and/or specifically wanted to deal with just the Lakers.

This trade is an outlier. Not something other trades/players' values should be based on/patterned after.

EDIT: I don't disagree that JB should be good enough to net us someone's top player (mostly because I'm biased and also think JB can be upgraded for our benefit).

[threrf23]

You know, when Luka becomes a free agent in '26, the Mavs stand to have enough cap space to sign him

assuming no extension

[phincsfan]

You know, when Luka becomes a free agent in '26, the Mavs stand to have enough cap space to sign him

assuming no extension

And there’s a political party who thinks a certain female is going to run again in 28’ and win.

Luka will be a Laker and that female won’t be president in 28’

[Fierce1]

So apparently the Lakers did not add another 1st rnd pick to the deal because they were not allowed to speak to Luka's agent.

[brackdan70]

So apparently the Lakers did not add another 1st rnd pick to the deal because they were not allowed to speak to Luka's agent.

I saw that.
I assume that is fairly rare…not allowing a team to speak to an agent?

[Fierce1]

So apparently the Lakers did not add another 1st rnd pick to the deal because they were not allowed to speak to Luka's agent.

I saw that.
I assume that is fairly rare…not allowing a team to speak to an agent?

True.

But understandable because the agent will want Luka to get the supermax.

If Luka will know that he's going to be traded, he might do a Jimmy Butler and blow up all potential deals.

[brackdan70]

So apparently the Lakers did not add another 1st rnd pick to the deal because they were not allowed to speak to Luka's agent.

I saw that.
I assume that is fairly rare…not allowing a team to speak to an agent?

True.

But understandable because the agent will want Luka to get the supermax.

If Luka will know that he's going to be traded, he might do a Jimmy Butler and blow up all potential deals.

Yeah fair point.

[Celts17Pride]

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[SuperDeluxe]

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PG is a young player on a manageable contract who rarely misses games, so why not?

The stench of desperation is almost unbearable.

[playa-hater]

Rockets send a ton of picks to the Bucks for their rebuild.

For that I would have boston offer three first rounders as well. Milwaukee can have possibly seven or more first round picks..

Please speak this trade into existence

[ConstableGeneva]

Rockets send a ton of picks to the Bucks for their rebuild.

For that I would have boston offer three first rounders as well. Milwaukee can have possibly seven or more first round picks..

Please speak this trade into existence

Celtics would have the modern version of Bird-McHale-Parish with arguably a better version of DJ and Ainge in Holiday and White.

[Parliament10]

Really some Blockbuster Trades.
Fireworks, even before the Deadline.