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[Walker88Boston]

[KGboss]

Yah, keep telling yourself this. What, 4 years and counting now.

#TrustTheProcess over a team that could have a top 5 pick AND win 50 games AND has cap flexibility

You had a top 3 pick and got Jaylen Brown. You won't win a championship this year. We also will have a top 5 pick, more cap flexibility, and a much improved team. That's what's important, that we prove our young talent. To shut people up and let them see our roster is loaded with great young talent, and that we can sign two max players along with a top 3 pick. We play you guys pre season, see you then.

PS- you aren't getting 50 wins, the competition has gotten better; the Knicks, Pacers, Bulls, Magic, Pistons, Bucks, and Sixers improved. I think you guys get 42ish.

So thats the real reason for your preaching for 30 wins. You want to have something good to talk about regarding your team with some hope for the future. I respect it.

Too bad its August 11th 2016 and in this world the Philadelphia 76ers suck ass.

[GregB]

Yah, keep telling yourself this. What, 4 years and counting now.

#TrustTheProcess over a team that could have a top 5 pick AND win 50 games AND has cap flexibility

You had a top 3 pick and got Jaylen Brown. You won't win a championship this year. We also will have a top 5 pick, more cap flexibility, and a much improved team. That's what's important, that we prove our young talent. To shut people up and let them see our roster is loaded with great young talent, and that we can sign two max players along with a top 3 pick. We play you guys pre season, see you then.

PS- you aren't getting 50 wins, the competition has gotten better; the Knicks, Pacers, Bulls, Magic, Pistons, Bucks, and Sixers improved. I think you guys get 42ish.

We won 48 wins without Al Horford. So 50 is pretty realistic.

Also if Jaylen Brown is such a bad pack. Why would you be interested in him for a "generational" talent like Noel.

But I do hope you guys improve enough to surpass Brooklyn. Would love another top pick. Next years draft looks nice. We will be the team in the playoffs who also has a chance at the number one pick. Have a great night.

[Captain_Caveman]

Yah, keep telling yourself this. What, 4 years and counting now.

#TrustTheProcess over a team that could have a top 5 pick AND win 50 games AND has cap flexibility

You had a top 3 pick and got Jaylen Brown. You won't win a championship this year. We also will have a top 5 pick, more cap flexibility, and a much improved team. That's what's important, that we prove our young talent. To shut people up and let them see our roster is loaded with great young talent, and that we can sign two max players along with a top 3 pick. We play you guys pre season, see you then.

PS- you aren't getting 50 wins, the competition has gotten better; the Knicks, Pacers, Bulls, Magic, Pistons, Bucks, and Sixers improved. I think you guys get 42ish.

As someone here who has gone to bat for the Hinkie Experiment, you are barking up the wrong tree, kid.

You went the Presti route and struck out. I think you are unfairly maligned in general, but you guys are nowhere close to laying a glove on us. I'd also very very worried of your new brass getting impatient and making dumb moves to simply make you relevant. Which is entirely possible given that you have no path to a title from where you are.

[jrob23]

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I think the conversation starts with Brown or Nets pick.......

I think the conversation ends with Brown or Nets pick.

You realize that Brown was supposed to go around 7th overall, right? The Brooklyn picks are out of teams control so they aren't as valuable as you may think. Noel is a generational talent on defense with the stats to back it up. Rozier is not the god you presume him to be, to me he's a throw in player, a little more valuable than a second round pick. Smart is terrible, point guards in the modern NBA need to be able to score 25 per game, and he can't. Brown is unpolished with potential, which is why a conversation would START with him, there would have to be more. If you guys think you'll be the only ones calling throughout the season, good luck with that. If you want to be foolish you can, but you are the only fans that value Rozier, Smart, and James Young.

wait...what?

[jirrit]

I said your bad players are bad, if they were so good why didn't Rozier play more? And I said Noel is a generational talent on defense, which can be proven using stats. Thank you for putting words in my mouth.
And why do you guys act like if we don't trade a center to you we won't be able to trade one? There are other teams that needs centers too. I can't wait to beat you guys this season! Embiid, Jah, Saric, possibly Noel, and Simmons will give you guys. Horford can only guard one guy, so who else will guard Okafor/Embiid? Tyler Zeller ?

Rozier didn't play more cause we actually have NBA-players on our roster. He's developing. In Philly they would have given him 48 minutes a game I think. Starting line-up is Embiid, Okafor, Saric, possibly Noel and Simmons. Good luck have fun.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Noel does have a chance to be an elite defensive player. Generational talent? I don't know. He has a shot to reach Dray Green, Dennis Rodman, Ben Wallace, KG in Boston level, but a lot of guys scratch that ceiling for a year or two - Larry Sanders, Roy Hibbert - and fall back down to earth. Or, like Tyson Chandler, they go up and down from one year to the next. And it's a good analytics test for the value of defense, because if Noel is Russell Jr., he's still not a great rebounder and he's a very limited offensive player. Given his youth and developmental environment, I do tend to think the sky's the limit for his D, but awareness is a big component, too, and he hasn't shown more, to me, than tremendous raw ability.

And there are other things deflating his value both to Philly and Boston. The Sixers have a logjam, and we have a defense-first team already, with limited scoring and dwindling cap room. Maxing Noel at 20+ million makes it that much harder for us to get offense for the rest of the rotation.

One possibility, I guess, is that if we're cap neutral next year and no free agents are in sight, we could re-up Amir and Jonas for another season (we won't have Bird rights) and go over the cap to extend Noel and Olynyk. Theoretically we could keep rolling over Amir and Jonas after that, and have them on the roster as cap fodder that can play a little. So then you've got another couple of summers to dump their money or deal for stars or package with picks, or even take on bad money to get future 1st-rounders.

As much as I'd get excited about Noel here, there is the possibility he underachieves. And it's going to mess with our trade flexibility and roster construction to bring him in. It is a safe bet, though, even if it ties our hands in some ways, compared to gambling on Okafor adding defense and rebounding to his superstar scoring.

[BallinBen]

#TrustTheProcess over a team that could have a top 5 pick AND win 50 games AND has cap flexibility

You had a top 3 pick and got Jaylen Brown. You won't win a championship this year. We also will have a top 5 pick, more cap flexibility, and a much improved team. That's what's important, that we prove our young talent. To shut people up and let them see our roster is loaded with great young talent, and that we can sign two max players along with a top 3 pick. We play you guys pre season, see you then.

PS- you aren't getting 50 wins, the competition has gotten better; the Knicks, Pacers, Bulls, Magic, Pistons, Bucks, and Sixers improved. I think you guys get 42ish.

We won 48 wins without Al Horford. So 50 is pretty realistic.

Also if Jaylen Brown is such a bad pack. Why would you be interested in him for a "generational" talent like Noel.

But I do hope you guys improve enough to surpass Brooklyn. Would love another top pick. Next years draft looks nice. We will be the team in the playoffs who also has a chance at the number one pick. Have a great night.

I'd be interested because he has potential. He's athletic and can defend. He just can't shoot. And I never said Id do it straight up, there would need to be more.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

You had a top 3 pick and got Jaylen Brown. You won't win a championship this year. We also will have a top 5 pick, more cap flexibility, and a much improved team. That's what's important, that we prove our young talent. To shut people up and let them see our roster is loaded with great young talent, and that we can sign two max players along with a top 3 pick. We play you guys pre season, see you then.

PS- you aren't getting 50 wins, the competition has gotten better; the Knicks, Pacers, Bulls, Magic, Pistons, Bucks, and Sixers improved. I think you guys get 42ish.

We won 48 wins without Al Horford. So 50 is pretty realistic.

Also if Jaylen Brown is such a bad pack. Why would you be interested in him for a "generational" talent like Noel.

But I do hope you guys improve enough to surpass Brooklyn. Would love another top pick. Next years draft looks nice. We will be the team in the playoffs who also has a chance at the number one pick. Have a great night.

I'd be interested because he has potential. He's athletic and can defend. He just can't shoot. And I never said Id do it straight up, there would need to be more.

If We're talking hypotheticals here, please continue. but It may just be the entire board is getting way ahead of itself with the potential of an actual trade. I honestly dont think I believe the rumor. Again, We'll see. I'll leave the door open a crack before I text my brother about any C's rumors. I got him pretty worked up over BG a few weeks ago.

[BallinBen]

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[BallinBen]

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[Andrew McCeltic]

Ok, I'm pretty open-minded and have come up with my own share of unconventional trade proposals, which I can usually defend, but I'm swatting that last post out like Jaylen did Simmons' shot. There's no way Noel gets you Jaylen. He couldn't get you Dunn. He seems to be worth less than Okafor, unless the Lakers bail you out with a dumb trade. Player values fluctuate, markets change, but you're just off as f*ck. Whether or not you're overrating Noel's value in a vacuum (defense-only guys usually don't return much in trades), you're definitely overrating his value in this trade market. Due for an extension, restricted free agent, Philly has to make a deal, Boston's under zero pressure, that's never going to get you a 3 pick everyone's high on after summer league. Smart, hard-working kid who isn't going to sh*t in his landlord's sink. You're just wrong as hell.

Rozier's not a "god", but after this summer, he looks like he'll be at least a Reggie Jackson caliber point guard. Smart's offensive growth is a concern, but he's not "terrible." You'd be lucky to get either one for Noel. If there's a deal, it'll be something weird and roster-management-ish like Zizic and Yabusele for Noel and a future top 20 protected 1st.

[Andrew McCeltic]

And yeah, Simmons is special, I was hoping Boston would get him somehow. He looks more like Magic Johnson than Lebron. So enjoy.

[Murta]

Noel does have a chance to be an elite defensive player. Generational talent? I don't know. He has a shot to reach Dray Green, Dennis Rodman, Ben Wallace, KG in Boston level

[Writebloc]

McCeltic, playing around with hypotheticals and all, what Boston moves on Noel, and brings in a Gordon Heyward, would they be able to afford both? They'd probably have shuffle the deck right? Not sure that would even put them up to the Cavs, sick D, with two offensive forces?

[Smitty731]

You had a top 3 pick and got Jaylen Brown. You won't win a championship this year. We also will have a top 5 pick, more cap flexibility, and a much improved team. That's what's important, that we prove our young talent. To shut people up and let them see our roster is loaded with great young talent, and that we can sign two max players along with a top 3 pick. We play you guys pre season, see you then.

PS- you aren't getting 50 wins, the competition has gotten better; the Knicks, Pacers, Bulls, Magic, Pistons, Bucks, and Sixers improved. I think you guys get 42ish.

We won 48 wins without Al Horford. So 50 is pretty realistic.

Also if Jaylen Brown is such a bad pack. Why would you be interested in him for a "generational" talent like Noel.

But I do hope you guys improve enough to surpass Brooklyn. Would love another top pick. Next years draft looks nice. We will be the team in the playoffs who also has a chance at the number one pick. Have a great night.

I'd be interested because he has potential. He's athletic and can defend. He just can't shoot. And I never said Id do it straight up, there would need to be more.

You are relatively new to the boards, so we'll give you some leeway. But understand what you are doing is borderline trolling another team's board. That isn't enjoyed around here. Not just the Boston board, but any of them. I suggest you stick to the league-wide boards or the Philadelphia board if you want to take this approach, otherwise your RealGM time will be short lived.

[BallinBen]

Ok, I'm pretty open-minded and have come up with my own share of unconventional trade proposals, which I can usually defend, but I'm swatting that last post out like Jaylen did Simmons' shot. There's no way Noel gets you Jaylen. He couldn't get you Dunn. He seems to be worth less than Okafor, unless the Lakers bail you out with a dumb trade. Player values fluctuate, markets change, but you're just off as f*ck. Whether or not you're overrating Noel's value in a vacuum (defense-only guys usually don't return much in trades), you're definitely overrating his value in this trade market. Due for an extension, restricted free agent, Philly has to make a deal, Boston's under zero pressure, that's never going to get you a 3 pick everyone's high on after summer league. Smart, hard-working kid who isn't going to sh*t in his landlord's sink. You're just wrong as hell.

Rozier's not a "god", but after this summer, he looks like he'll be at least a Reggie Jackson caliber point guard. Smart's offensive growth is a concern, but he's not "terrible." You'd be lucky to get either one for Noel. If there's a deal, it'll be something weird and roster-management-ish like Zizic and Yabusele for Noel and a future top 20 protected 1st.

Incase you haven't noticed most of the fans on this thread think Rozier could be an all-star and could be traded for Jahlil Okafor, who averaged nearly 18 ppg last year. Jaylen Brown could easily not develop a jump shot a become a Jerami Grant type player, which isn't bad, but not what you want from a number one pick.

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BC did say he won't make a deal unless a good return is coming back, and a backup point guard isn't good enough. Back when Oladipo was available most people on both the magic and sixer board thought Oladipo for Noel was fair.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Noel does have a chance to be an elite defensive player. Generational talent? I don't know. He has a shot to reach Dray Green, Dennis Rodman, Ben Wallace, KG in Boston level

On defense only. He doesn't have the awareness, the intensity, or the quarterbacking ability now, but the raw athletic attributes are there in a way that's uncommon.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Ok, I'm pretty open-minded and have come up with my own share of unconventional trade proposals, which I can usually defend, but I'm swatting that last post out like Jaylen did Simmons' shot. There's no way Noel gets you Jaylen. He couldn't get you Dunn. He seems to be worth less than Okafor, unless the Lakers bail you out with a dumb trade. Player values fluctuate, markets change, but you're just off as f*ck. Whether or not you're overrating Noel's value in a vacuum (defense-only guys usually don't return much in trades), you're definitely overrating his value in this trade market. Due for an extension, restricted free agent, Philly has to make a deal, Boston's under zero pressure, that's never going to get you a 3 pick everyone's high on after summer league. Smart, hard-working kid who isn't going to sh*t in his landlord's sink. You're just wrong as hell.

Rozier's not a "god", but after this summer, he looks like he'll be at least a Reggie Jackson caliber point guard. Smart's offensive growth is a concern, but he's not "terrible." You'd be lucky to get either one for Noel. If there's a deal, it'll be something weird and roster-management-ish like Zizic and Yabusele for Noel and a future top 20 protected 1st.

Incase you haven't noticed most of the fans on this thread think Rozier could be an all-star and could be traded for Jahlil Okafor, who averaged nearly 18 ppg last year. Jaylen Brown could easily not develop a jump shot a become a Jerami Grant type player, which isn't bad, but not what you want from a number one pick.

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BC did say he won't make a deal unless a good return is coming back, and a backup point guard isn't good enough. Back when Oladipo was available most people on both the magic and sixer board thought Oladipo for Noel was fair.

He has to say that. We won't know what happens until it happens.

Rozier *could* be an all-star. Our whole board hated the pick last year, and wanted Bobby Portis, but Ainge claimed, improbably, that Rozier was the only guy left on the board with 'star' potential. After a year in the D-league and a cup of coffee with the C's, he lived up to that hype this summer. Okafor is a very, very gifted iso scorer, with more likely to come on offense. But his problems with defense are incredibly well-documented, just like his declining trade value. Brown you're just wrong on. Incredible potential as a slasher. Even if he doesn't develop a shot, he's somewhere between Tyreke Evans and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist already.

Oladipo ended up the centerpiece for Ibaka. But honestly, if that's a fair deal, Smart for Noel is fair. I'd hate it, I hope if we do get Nerlens, it's for something else- but it's fair value in a vacuum.

[BallinBen]

An athletic slasher that can play defense, can't shoot, and plays out of control seems to match Jerami Grant. You cannot assume that just because he was a high draft pick that he will be a star. He's very raw with a low basketball IQ, I watched some Cal games and he could be a Tyreke Evans, but he needs to earn that. He was very inefficient and will have to prove he was worth selecting over Dunn.