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Post#81 » by Slartibartfast » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:39 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im fine with the pick if we’re planning on trading Jaylen. Otherwise, I question if its wise to draft a 2/3 who is blocked at PT by multiple other high lottery picks


I think it's more likely they let Rozier go or trade Smart (not necessarily this season). 2-4 are pretty fluid and I think Tatum will be seeing 4 minutes before long. Getting Romeo on the floor would be more about doing away with 2 combo guard line-ups. Always keeping size on the wing.
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Post#82 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:46 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im fine with the pick if we’re planning on trading Jaylen. Otherwise, I question if its wise to draft a 2/3 who is blocked at PT by multiple other high lottery picks


I think it's more likely they let Rozier go or trade Smart (not necessarily this season). 2-4 are pretty fluid and I think Tatum will be seeing 4 minutes before long. Getting Romeo on the floor would be more about doing away with 2 combo guard line-ups. Always keeping size on the wing.


I think Rozier is about to get a big offer from Phoenix and is gone.

I just think that Langfords best position is at the 2 longterm in a Smart-Langford-Tatum lineup— they all compliment each other well and are a bit more balanced. I dont think Brown is a good fit with those 3 and we’d be better served trading him for a bigman.
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Re: Romeo Langford Thread 

Post#83 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:55 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im fine with the pick if we’re planning on trading Jaylen. Otherwise, I question if its wise to draft a 2/3 who is blocked at PT by multiple other high lottery picks


I honestly was thinking this while having a walk a few hours ago... I think the fact we got Smart/Jaylen/Tatum/Hayward pretty much creates a logjam... Although Langford can still squeeze in 20-25 mins since we aren't looking like we're title contenders, I think giving playing time to a guy like Langford who's a late lotto pick, would be a good idea instead having him play behind 3-4 guys. That's why I thought selecting a potential center would've fit the roster much better. We have 2 functional bigs on the roster right now and 7-8 wings/guards. It's just fairly weird(Fernando with a 2nd rounder, Bitadze, Doumbouya would all fit better, Washington, too but he went with #11..). We'd need to trade either Hayward or Jaylen to make this work. But if not Brad needs to find 20-25 mins for this kid to play, cause we ain't winning the title next season more than likely...

Otherwise I still like the pick, I'm not so sure about the fit tho..
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Re: Romeo Langford Thread 

Post#84 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im fine with the pick if we’re planning on trading Jaylen. Otherwise, I question if its wise to draft a 2/3 who is blocked at PT by multiple other high lottery picks


I think it's more likely they let Rozier go or trade Smart (not necessarily this season). 2-4 are pretty fluid and I think Tatum will be seeing 4 minutes before long. Getting Romeo on the floor would be more about doing away with 2 combo guard line-ups. Always keeping size on the wing.


I think Rozier is about to get a big offer from Phoenix and is gone.

I just think that Langfords best position is at the 2 longterm in a Smart-Langford-Tatum lineup— they all compliment each other well and are a bit more balanced. I dont think Brown is a good fit with those 3 and we’d be better served trading him for a bigman.

Langford has some ball handling skills so can fill the combo guard back up two role off the bench. Plenty of minutes short term imo.
Smart
Jaylen
Jason
Hayward
Langford

Those guys can split 144 minutes equitably imo

But yeah if the opportunity is there and it makes sense the Cs can trade Brown and have a similar talent waiting to step up.
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Post#85 » by Slartibartfast » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:00 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im fine with the pick if we’re planning on trading Jaylen. Otherwise, I question if its wise to draft a 2/3 who is blocked at PT by multiple other high lottery picks


I think it's more likely they let Rozier go or trade Smart (not necessarily this season). 2-4 are pretty fluid and I think Tatum will be seeing 4 minutes before long. Getting Romeo on the floor would be more about doing away with 2 combo guard line-ups. Always keeping size on the wing.


I think Rozier is about to get a big offer from Phoenix and is gone.

I just think that Langfords best position is at the 2 longterm in a Smart-Langford-Tatum lineup— they all compliment each other well and are a bit more balanced. I dont think Brown is a good fit with those 3 and we’d be better served trading him for a bigman.


Maybe. But I think that decision can wait a few years. 96 minutes at the wing. Plus those 20-30 smallball 4 minutes likely vacated by Morris.

If Rozier's gone, we can keep Smart mainly at the 1. An then divvy up about 120 minutes between Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Langford and smallball Smart
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Post#86 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:06 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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I think it's more likely they let Rozier go or trade Smart (not necessarily this season). 2-4 are pretty fluid and I think Tatum will be seeing 4 minutes before long. Getting Romeo on the floor would be more about doing away with 2 combo guard line-ups. Always keeping size on the wing.


I think Rozier is about to get a big offer from Phoenix and is gone.

I just think that Langfords best position is at the 2 longterm in a Smart-Langford-Tatum lineup— they all compliment each other well and are a bit more balanced. I dont think Brown is a good fit with those 3 and we’d be better served trading him for a bigman.


Maybe. But I think that decision can wait a few years. 96 minutes at the wing. Plus those 20-30 smallball 4 minutes likely vacated by Morris.

If Rozier's gone, we can keep Smart mainly at the 1. An then divvy up about 120 minutes between Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Langford and smallball Smart


If last year taught me anything, having a logjam where multiple people expect minutes is not a desirable situation
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Post#87 » by flintsky21 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:09 pm

Okay I'm sold

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Post#88 » by VeryMuchWoke » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:11 pm

Isn't the solution to the logjam to play Hayward at the 4, but also let him run the offense? That allows us to put up to 4 wings on the floor at a time. I think that was part of the plan last year, but Hayward never got up to speed.

With Kyrie gone, Smart becomes more of a full time PG, which opens up minutes on the wing. Or, let Morris go (28mpg) and slot Langford into 20-25 of those.
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Re: Romeo Langford Thread 

Post#89 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:17 pm

VeryMuchWoke wrote:Isn't the solution to the logjam to play Hayward at the 4, but also let him run the offense? That allows us to put up to 4 wings on the floor at a time. I think that was part of the plan last year, but Hayward never got up to speed.

With Kyrie gone, Smart becomes more of a full time PG, which opens up minutes on the wing. Or, let Morris go (28mpg) and slot Langford into 20-25 of those.


Yea I said that multiple times about Hayward running the offense and playing the 4 ala Doncic with the Mavs last season.
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Post#90 » by Slartibartfast » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:29 pm

VeryMuchWoke wrote:Isn't the solution to the logjam to play Hayward at the 4, but also let him run the offense? That allows us to put up to 4 wings on the floor at a time. I think that was part of the plan last year, but Hayward never got up to speed.

With Kyrie gone, Smart becomes more of a full time PG, which opens up minutes on the wing. Or, let Morris go (28mpg) and slot Langford into 20-25 of those.


I could see something like this next year, with a hypothetical Vuc signing.

Rozier (30)/Smart (18)
Brown (20)/Smart (12)/Langford (16)
Tatum (32)/Brown (12)/Langford (4)
Hayward (30)/G. Williams (18)
Vucevic (32)/R. Williams (16)

There are enough minutes there to start developing Langford.

But doing an exercise like this highlights how much we need a real PG prospect or a more offensively dynamic big man prospect. Crazy how reliant we could be on Hayward to run the offense.
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Post#91 » by sam_I_am » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:36 pm

flintsky21 wrote:Okay I'm sold




Thanks, that was cool. I admit I didn’t know much about him before the weeks before draft and had no idea he was a top 6 recruit. Barrett and Reddish maybe only more talented wings in draft. Cullver, Rui and Hunter are all sophomores. As a UVA fan, I don’t see how Hunter is a better prospect and I love Hunter. Hunter can defend and although he did shoot 3 well in college he truly is a reluctant shooter and has none of the tools Langford has creating shots or attacking rim. I think Celtic culture will turn him into the defender he has the talent to become. I am much more excited about this pick.

Here is 2018 recruiting class rankings when they were in HS:

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

Somehow, Zion was 7th. Langford was 5.
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Post#92 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:06 pm

I have warmed up to the pick. He’s a slasher. Shot almost 45 percent with an injury to his hand. Playing through it. Could shoot the 3 better. Mr indiana. Shot the two point shot a lot better. Gives us depth at the wing. Can’t wait to see him in the summer league games.
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Post#93 » by ParticleMan » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:22 pm

i'm trying to like this pick. i really am. i am just struggling.

it's not just his 3pt shooting. i'm actually not too worried about this. it's more about his lackadaisical D, his standing around on O, and his penchant for taking high degree of difficulty shots. these are all very bad habits that will take time to correct. do we have the patience for this? will brad even give him PT if he doesn't full perform on D?

also, given that we are overloaded at the swing position, where exactly does he fit?
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Post#94 » by ddb » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:22 pm

Just so long as he is better than Ron Mercer

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Post#95 » by Roddy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:35 pm

Good handles, smooth with the ball in his hands, great ability of getting to the basket, strong finisher, solid vision and a good passer capable of finding the open man, an above average athlete with good speed and long arms....

Hey, that reminds me of someone !!!

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Post#96 » by Asher77 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:35 pm

young Penny Hardaway

This is the comp to aspire too. His passing vision needs proving but iv'e seen glimpses. I just think he was a young kid with the score first goggles on as it seems they are all being developed with these days.
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Post#97 » by ermocrate » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:00 pm

For what I understand this guy puts us in a great spot, allows us to trade Brown without any remorse...
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Post#98 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:01 pm

thebirdman wrote:I am worried about his shot...his release does not look good and its not just due to the injury, IMO.

We really need shooters on this team...the problem is we seem to be terrible at developing guys who are bad shooters…



I thought guys like Ball had a funny shot but the ol touch the forehead may take the cake! :)
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Post#99 » by ParticleMan » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:09 pm

ermocrate wrote:For what I understand this guy puts us in a great spot, allows us to trade Brown without any remorse...


meh, i take brown over this guy 8 days a week and twice on the other days.

let's see if he can break 30% in 3pt shooting before anointing him our SG of the future.
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Post#100 » by DarkAzcura » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:16 pm

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flintsky21 wrote:Okay I'm sold




Thanks, that was cool. I admit I didn’t know much about him before the weeks before draft and had no idea he was a top 6 recruit. Barrett and Reddish maybe only more talented wings in draft. Cullver, Rui and Hunter are all sophomores. As a UVA fan, I don’t see how Hunter is a better prospect and I love Hunter. Hunter can defend and although he did shoot 3 well in college he truly is a reluctant shooter and has none of the tools Langford has creating shots or attacking rim. I think Celtic culture will turn him into the defender he has the talent to become. I am much more excited about this pick.

Here is 2018 recruiting class rankings when they were in HS:

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

Somehow, Zion was 7th. Langford was 5.


Hopefully NBA scouts would do much better, but this is actually what worries me about letting high school kids back into the draft. Bol Bol and Little would had probably been top 5-7 picks out of high school. Crazy. I mean it would had been great for them, but not sure how great that is for actual NBA organizations.

We will see.

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