Grant Williams thread

Dogen · Post #81 » by **Dogen** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:11 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Watching the highlights I was struck how much Williams shot making reminds me of Adrian Dantley.

Thems some mighty big words of comparison, but I see it!

Post #82 » by **Bleeding Green** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:35 pm

I'm feasting on the Grant Williams highlights. Such nice touch around the basket, great footwork, really good leverage when he has a man on him in the low post. Probably going to be a subpar rebounder at the 4 given his lack of height, reach and jumping ability, but maybe he can bully the hell out of people like PJ Tucker. He looks like a better Ryan Gomes. The passing ability looks really nice too. Assist-rate in college for bigmen is one of the better predictors for NBA defense, too. 3.6 ast/36 is pretty awesome for a PF. The height and wingspan look sad, but he looks really agile and should be fine sticking with guys out to the perimeter and he won't get caught in unfavorable switches too often. If his outside shot develops, he's gonna be a longterm starter in this league. Plus he looks like if Avery Bradley had an allergic reaction to shellfish.

threrf23 · Post #83 » by **threrf23** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:42 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Plus he looks like if Avery Bradley had an allergic reaction to shellfish.

I think he looks kinda like Doc Rivers on steroids.

Post #84 » by **Bleeding Green** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:52 pm

threrf23 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Plus he looks like if Avery Bradley had an allergic reaction to shellfish.

I think he looks kinda like Doc Rivers on steroids.

I can see that, maybe a little too much synthol in spots too.

zoyathedestroya · Post #85 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:22 pm

Read on Twitter

Perk-approved. *100 emoji*

CelticsPride18 · Post #86 » by **CelticsPride18** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:26 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:

Read on Twitter

Perk-approved. *100 emoji*

I want Perk on the Celtics staff.

Post #87 » by **Slartibartfast** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:31 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Plus he looks like if Avery Bradley had an allergic reaction to shellfish.

I think he looks kinda like Doc Rivers on steroids.

I can see that, maybe a little too much synthol in spots too.

Someone earlier in the thread said Lavar Ball and now I can't unsee it

Post #88 » by **Slartibartfast** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:32 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:

Read on Twitter

Perk-approved. *100 emoji*

Perk would be a fun add to the Cs coaching staff.

Disinformation · Post #89 » by **Disinformation** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:32 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:

Read on Twitter

Perk-approved. *100 emoji*

I want Perk on the Celtics staff.

Me, too. How has that not already happened?

SparringPartner · Post #90 » by **SparringPartner** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:33 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:

Read on Twitter

Perk-approved. *100 emoji*

Perk is on fire in the media right now. Isn't Brad looking for an assistant with playing experience? Come back home to Boston big boi

Post #91 » by **Slartibartfast** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:33 pm

Lol we all had the same thought

Post #92 » by **Darth Celtic** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:48 pm

Ed Pinkney wrote:This is the sort of stuff I like seeing at draft time.

Read on Twitter

This just sold me on him. Basketball or whatever, personality wise here is a table.

GW.....................................................................................................................................................Kyrie.

Disinformation · Post #93 » by **Disinformation** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:57 pm

Half-Full wrote:Here is an interesting take on Williams from The Stepien.

"At least in this one sense, Grant Williams is similar to Draymond Green, though there’s another. Draymond Green was the owner of the 2012 draft’s most underrated set of skills in his ability to play defense. I’d argue that for the 2019 draft Grant Williams is also probably the owner of the draft’s most underrated skill. Except this skill — Williams’ jump shot — is not quite as easy to pick out. Yet there any number of indicators, taken in conjunction with each other, that suggest the eventual extension of Grant Williams’ jump shot to NBA 3 range, with efficiency, is more likely than not."

Here is link to full article:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/09/draft-notes-grant-williams-chosen-24-40-drafts-second-best-play/

That article got my fully erect.

ZeroTolerance · Post #94 » by **ZeroTolerance** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:57 pm

theman wrote:
Spin Move wrote:Lets hope Danny knows more then I do, don't like the pick he is an undersized 4 who might have been available in the 2nd...hard worker just too small for 4 in the NBA

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Agreed. 100%

Some of Danny's picks really puzzle me. This pick has JR. Giddens written all over it.

Ryan Gomes,.....Big Baby Davis?....and some others since...Can he shoot?...Maybe he's more Carmelo like?.

ZeroTolerance · Post #95 » by **ZeroTolerance** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:08 am

Disinformation wrote:
Half-Full wrote:Here is an interesting take on Williams from The Stepien.

"At least in this one sense, Grant Williams is similar to Draymond Green, though there’s another. Draymond Green was the owner of the 2012 draft’s most underrated set of skills in his ability to play defense. I’d argue that for the 2019 draft Grant Williams is also probably the owner of the draft’s most underrated skill. Except this skill — Williams’ jump shot — is not quite as easy to pick out. Yet there any number of indicators, taken in conjunction with each other, that suggest the eventual extension of Grant Williams’ jump shot to NBA 3 range, with efficiency, is more likely than not."

Here is link to full article:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/09/draft-notes-grant-williams-chosen-24-40-drafts-second-best-play/

That article got my fully erect.

He looks really good!

Andrew McCeltic · Post #96 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:43 am

Williams is a knockdown midrange shooter - like Rui.

zoyathedestroya · Post #97 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:47 am

Read on Twitter

Brad Stevens/Danny Ainge out here just collecting the Infinity Stones:
◾Soul Stone = Marcus Smart, obvi
◾Mind Stone = Jaylen Brown, because chess
◾Power Stone = Semi Ojeleye and his combat muscles
◾Time Stone = Robert Williams III
◾Space Stone = Grant Williams
◾Reality Stone = ??

Just need that MVP talent to complete the set.

Gomes3PC · Post #98 » by **Gomes3PC** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:08 am

Slartibartfast wrote:
Kalela wrote:
threrf23 wrote:He's probably the closest thing to Draymond Green since Draymond Green - they've got very similar strengths and weaknesses. However, he is not as imposing as Draymond Green, which might make him more like Rodney Rodgers, which I think is a comparison I saw somewhere. Hopefully he is less douchey than Draymond.

Wingspan is only 6'9". Draymond has a 7'2" wingspan but Grant has bigger hands.

He is ridiculously small for the modern NBA. Feel like his paint game is going to be complete swallowed up and his help D is going to be trifling. Will probably be below average on the boards too. All about how well he can move those feet on the perimeter, hit Js and pass from the high post.

I think his strength will help him offset the size he will give up at times.

Williams' game translated is predicated on stretching to 3. The rest of his game plays at SF. He's got excellent vision for his size, tough as hell, draws fouls, smart defender, finishes extremely well at the rim.

Curmudgeon · Post #99 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:23 am

There were 5-6 guys in this draft with high BBIQ, and Williams is one of them. Alexander-Walker is another.

flintsky21 · Post #100 » by **flintsky21** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:49 am

Watch on YouTube

Compares his game to undersized PFs Draymond Green and PJ Tucker, which definitely aren't bad names. Interestingly he says he's a better shooter than Tucker. I think he's a better scorer than those 2.

As a 6'7" PF, he likely wouldn't have made it in the 90s and 2000s but these days most 4s are SFs anyways (or stretch bigs), so he'll be fine. He'll probably even dominate these perimeter forwards in the post.