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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#81 » by Green89 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 11:55 pm

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I doubt he has been promised the role all year, however. Rob (or the other guys) still with a chance to win it.


Look up Kanter's career history. He will not settle for a bench role. He demanded a trade from the Knicks because of it. He absolutely wouldn't have signed here unless they gave him a starting gig. He was a free agent who demanded a trade for that very same reason, so why would he choose us in free agency if there was any chance of a bench demotion again?

Kanter will get the Starting Center roll, at the Beginning of the Season.
Nothing is promised forever, though.

He'll likely be the Starter for most of the Season. But, he could get injured.
And though unlikely, Kanter could even be replaced as a Starter on merit.


Anything's possible, but there's so much distance between him and any other centers we have, his job should be very safe. He grabs his usual 9-10 rebounds per game, he won't lose it.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#82 » by captain green » Thu Jul 4, 2019 12:16 am

Walker/wannamaker/edwarfs
Smart/hayward/langford
Brown/semi/g.will
Tatum/thies/yabu
Poirier/kanter/timelord
2 way Waters and Fall.
Roll it out, pack it in, we got legit depth and legit holes and legit firepower.
Maybe enough cohesion to get 4th again. At the very least playoffs.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#83 » by Green89 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 12:26 am

captain green wrote:Walker/wannamaker/edwarfs
Smart/hayward/langford
Brown/semi/g.will
Tatum/thies/yabu
Poirier/kanter/timelord
2 way Waters and Fall.
Roll it out, pack it in, we got legit depth and legit holes and legit firepower.
Maybe enough cohesion to get 4th again. At the very least playoffs.


Kanter will be starting over Poirier.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#84 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jul 4, 2019 1:00 am

Ainge is filling out the depth of the roster setting up another move
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#85 » by SuperDeluxe » Thu Jul 4, 2019 1:03 am

Celts17Pride wrote:Ainge is filling out the depth of the roster setting up another move

I was thinking the same thing. Too many players, something will happen.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#86 » by captain green » Thu Jul 4, 2019 4:02 am

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captain green wrote:Walker/wannamaker/edwarfs
Smart/hayward/langford
Brown/semi/g.will
Tatum/thies/yabu
Poirier/kanter/timelord
2 way Waters and Fall.
Roll it out, pack it in, we got legit depth and legit holes and legit firepower.
Maybe enough cohesion to get 4th again. At the very least playoffs.


Kanter will be starting over Poirier.

Legit hole I was talking about was mostly kanter so get ready for a whole season of kanter being my whipping boy.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#87 » by azee2890 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 4:55 am

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I'm actually more worried about PG depth. If we don't get a veteran backup, Smart has to come off the bench. That will leave the first unit as a pretty rough defensive unit.


Would anyone be into grabbing Jeremy Lin at the vet minimum to be a back up point? Might be good to align him with Brad, he’s got ties to Boston through his time at Harvard, smart player that can provide a spark of scoring, although it doesn’t help the defensive front, but the rest of the team is full of athletes to cover up those weaknesses. Could be a low risk high reward type investment.



Rondo woild be my first choice, but Lin isn't a bad option. Although, I wondered why he got virtually no minutes in Toronto's title run.



Rondo would be a good option, though I do feel he’s more high risk/high reward. He’s never exactly been a poster boy for good attitude, something I hope we are now building towards after the Kyrie situation.

Lin didn’t shoot well toward the end of the year and consequentially became a casualty of Nurse tightening up his playoff lineup. I was surprised they didn’t give him a shot when Van Vleet was struggling early but once Van Vleet caught fire in the later rounds they were set on their guard rotations.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#88 » by robdog_5 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 4:57 am

I dont understand our roster after I keep looking at it. Too many guys with little exp. I'm fine with youth movement but were too competitive to have no vet bench role players
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#89 » by ParticleMan » Thu Jul 4, 2019 7:27 am

robdog_5 wrote:I dont understand our roster after I keep looking at it. Too many guys with little exp. I'm fine with youth movement but were too competitive to have no vet bench role players


you overestimate our competitiveness. sure, we might win as much as 50 games because this is exactly the sort of roster brad excels at maximizing, and we do have some talent. but this year is the Celtics' version of the American Idol audition round. (or Eurovision for our non-US friends.)

by the end of the year we need to figure out the following:
- Can Kemba fit into Brad's system to be our PG of the (immediate) future?
- Are Brown and/or Tatum guys who are legit championship pieces?
- Which if any of our unheralded big men can be a quality starting C?
- Where if anywhere do our rookies project to fit into the long-term vision?
- Can we showcase our bench depth to package them for better players?
- What are our key need(s) with the Memphis pick?

this is what we're looking at this year. if it looks like rebuilding, it is, except that we will not be a lottery team so we won't have our own lotto pick. luckily we've outsourced our tank once again.

so don't expect the roster decisions or even the coaching and playing time decisions this year to make sense in terms of winning at all costs. that isn't the point. the point is to set us up for competing within the next year or two, either by having our best young guys step up or by trading for the next superstar who comes available.

it's going to be a fun season for hoops nerds. ainge is going to be involved in every major trade dealing at the deadline, and we're going to have a great time arguing about wild extrapolations from small sample sizes and fleeting glimpses.

but competitive? nah, not really.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#90 » by Floody100 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 9:50 am

Celts17Pride wrote:Ainge is filling out the depth of the roster setting up another move


Beal !
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#91 » by cloverleaf » Thu Jul 4, 2019 10:44 am

captain green wrote:
Green89 wrote:
captain green wrote:Walker/wannamaker/edwarfs
Smart/hayward/langford
Brown/semi/g.will
Tatum/thies/yabu
Poirier/kanter/timelord
2 way Waters and Fall.
Roll it out, pack it in, we got legit depth and legit holes and legit firepower.
Maybe enough cohesion to get 4th again. At the very least playoffs.


Kanter will be starting over Poirier.

Legit hole I was talking about was mostly kanter so get ready for a whole season of kanter being my whipping boy.


More importantly Rob W has the chance to win a big role--including IMO starting by the year's end if he really comes on. They much need his strengths to balance the starting lineup more than Kanter's.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#92 » by ndn-celtic » Thu Jul 4, 2019 1:33 pm

I hope to see this rotation, and not just because it's the best on paper offensively. I do realize it's thin defensively up front. But the trio of Brown, Hayward and Tatum needs to start and get the minutes to (re)gain their momentum.

Walker/Smart
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Semi
Tatum/Theis
Kanter/Poirier/RWill

Fill in with Wanamaker, Yabs and the rookies as needed.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#93 » by Parliament10 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 1:44 pm

ndn-celtic wrote:I hope to see this rotation, and not just because it's the best on paper offensively. I do realize it's thin defensively up front. But the trio of Brown, Hayward and Tatum needs to start and get the minutes to (re)gain their momentum.

Walker/Smart
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Semi
Tatum/Theis
Kanter/Poirier/RWill

Fill in with Wanamaker, Yabs and the rookies as needed.

I would adjust it to something more like the following.:

2019-20 Tentative Roster
Kemba - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Kanter
Wanamaker - Smart - Ojeleye - Theis - R. Williams


With spot minutes as follows:

Edwards - Langford - G. Williams - Poirier
Two-Ways = Strus; Waters (Fall)
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#94 » by brackdan70 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 1:54 pm

captain green wrote:
Green89 wrote:
captain green wrote:Walker/wannamaker/edwarfs
Smart/hayward/langford
Brown/semi/g.will
Tatum/thies/yabu
Poirier/kanter/timelord
2 way Waters and Fall.
Roll it out, pack it in, we got legit depth and legit holes and legit firepower.
Maybe enough cohesion to get 4th again. At the very least playoffs.


Kanter will be starting over Poirier.

Legit hole I was talking about was mostly kanter so get ready for a whole season of kanter being my whipping boy.

Ha ha. Yep we are going to be cursing him at times for sure, but...I am hopeful there are times when like him.
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Post#95 » by brackdan70 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 2:11 pm

Projected rotation with minutes assuming 255 min per game based on 5 games missed per starter.
Kemba (32) Smart (12) Wanamaker (4) Edwards (3)
Brown (22) Smart (16) Langford (12)
Hayward (30), Tatum (12), Brown (8)
Tatum (20), Theis (10), GW (8), Semi (10)
Kanter (20), RW (20), Poirier (10)
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#96 » by Green89 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 2:42 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Projected rotation with minutes assuming 255 min per game based on 5 games missed per starter.
Kemba (32) Smart (12) Wanamaker (4) Edwards (3)
Brown (22) Smart (16) Langford (12)
Hayward (30), Tatum (12), Brown (8)
Tatum (20), Theis (10), GW (8), Semi (10)
Kanter (20), RW (20), Poirier (10)


I'd say 25 for Kanter and around 15 for RWIII.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#97 » by brackdan70 » Thu Jul 4, 2019 2:43 pm

Green89 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Projected rotation with minutes assuming 255 min per game based on 5 games missed per starter.
Kemba (32) Smart (12) Wanamaker (4) Edwards (3)
Brown (22) Smart (16) Langford (12)
Hayward (30), Tatum (12), Brown (8)
Tatum (20), Theis (10), GW (8), Semi (10)
Kanter (20), RW (20), Poirier (10)


I'd say 25 for Kanter and around 15 for RWIII.

Perhaps. Hoping Williams makes a jump but maybe wishful thinking.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#98 » by exculpatory » Thu Jul 4, 2019 2:44 pm

ParticleMan wrote:
robdog_5 wrote:I dont understand our roster after I keep looking at it. Too many guys with little exp. I'm fine with youth movement but were too competitive to have no vet bench role players


you overestimate our competitiveness. sure, we might win as much as 50 games because this is exactly the sort of roster brad excels at maximizing, and we do have some talent. but this year is the Celtics' version of the American Idol audition round. (or Eurovision for our non-US friends.)

by the end of the year we need to figure out the following:
- Can Kemba fit into Brad's system to be our PG of the (immediate) future?
- Are Brown and/or Tatum guys who are legit championship pieces?
- Which if any of our unheralded big men can be a quality starting C?
- Where if anywhere do our rookies project to fit into the long-term vision?
- Can we showcase our bench depth to package them for better players?
- What are our key need(s) with the Memphis pick?

this is what we're looking at this year. if it looks like rebuilding, it is, except that we will not be a lottery team so we won't have our own lotto pick. luckily we've outsourced our tank once again.

so don't expect the roster decisions or even the coaching and playing time decisions this year to make sense in terms of winning at all costs. that isn't the point. the point is to set us up for competing within the next year or two, either by having our best young guys step up or by trading for the next superstar who comes available.

it's going to be a fun season for hoops nerds. ainge is going to be involved in every major trade dealing at the deadline, and we're going to have a great time arguing about wild extrapolations from small sample sizes and fleeting glimpses.

but competitive? nah, not really.


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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#99 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jul 4, 2019 2:52 pm

This Celtics team will win more games than last year's team, and will do better in the playoffs. Is it a contender? No, but it has a puncher's chance.

Last year's team wasn't a contender either. People thought it was at the beginning of the year, but those delusions of grandeur disappeared when people saw how dysfunctional the team was. Some folks continued to believe that they would turn it around in the playoffs, but that was just wishful thinking based on some verbal diarrhea from Kyrie.

Roster will be:

pg Walker, Wanamaker, Waters
sg Brown, Smart, Edwards
sf Tatum, Langford
pf Hayward, Ojeleye, Williams
c Theis, Kanter, Williams, Poirier
up in the air: Yabu
2 way: Strus, Fall

The rotations will obviously feature Tatum, Hayward, Brown and Smart at the wing positions, with Smart as the 6th man and designated closer. I expect Waters to supplant Wanamaker as Kemba's backup, and for Wiilliams to earn more minutes, in each case as the season progresses. I can't predict the center position: may the best man win after evaluating performances in practice and in the preseason.

I expect Langford to start very slowly and to spend most of the year on the shuttle to Portland.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#100 » by cloverleaf » Thu Jul 4, 2019 2:53 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Projected rotation with minutes assuming 255 min per game based on 5 games missed per starter.
Kemba (32) Smart (12) Wanamaker (4) Edwards (3)
Brown (22) Smart (16) Langford (12)
Hayward (30), Tatum (12), Brown (8)
Tatum (20), Theis (10), GW (8), Semi (10)
Kanter (20), RW (20), Poirier (10)


I'd say 25 for Kanter and around 15 for RWIII.

Perhaps. Hoping Williams makes a jump but maybe wishful thinking.


I'm thinking Rob is good for at least 15 this season. And I am looking for major jumps from not only him, but of course Gordo, JT and JB. Kemba and Wanamaker should have up seasons this year too--which is saying something in Kemba's case! Smart should still be improving and seems to have got over the worst of his shot issues. Theis hopefully healthy. Fingers crossed Semi can take a step closer to Morris's past contribution. Then I think Grant and Carsen will be decent rotation players by the end of the season.

Aging Al is on his way to Ancient Al, so would have declined a bit further this season anyway. Then too last year's massive black clouds seem to have rolled over. So I am pretty optimistic. Probably too young and experienced to go farther than make it to the ECF again, but I'm okay with that if the players are maturing in the right way.

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