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Post#81 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:55 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Here are some trades that haven't been discussed:

1. Jaylen Brown to Golden State for Kelly Oubre, James Wiseman and a 2023 first round pick. Win later move.
2. TT and a first round pick pick to Dallas for Maxi Klieber. I love love to trade Kemba and a pick or two for the Zinger, but I can't see any Dallas interest in Kemba given that Doncic will have the ball most of the time. But I do like Maxi.
3. Langford and a first round pick to Cleveland for Jarrett Allen.


There's a reason none of those deals have ever been discussed.
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Post#82 » by klemen4 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:57 pm

Every past trade deadline Danny should made a move, but did not. This year when imo he should not make it he will :) we have to be realistic, no move give us a chance to beat Brooklyn.

So, stay put and play youngsters off bench...that should be the main focus in 2nd part of season.

Bubble starting 5 plus a bench of prichard/nesmith/Langford/G.Williams/R.Williams.

Trade Thompson for expiring contract and use that money for Thies in summer.
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Post#83 » by JediMasterRevan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:01 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Give the Pels Timelord for Lonzo.



More like Theis or Kemba
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Post#84 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:01 pm

Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure
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Post#85 » by JediMasterRevan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:03 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Here are some trades that haven't been discussed:

1. Jaylen Brown to Golden State for Kelly Oubre, James Wiseman and a 2023 first round pick. Win later move.
2. TT and a first round pick pick to Dallas for Maxi Klieber. I love love to trade Kemba and a pick or two for the Zinger, but I can't see any Dallas interest in Kemba given that Doncic will have the ball most of the time. But I do like Maxi.
3. Langford and a first round pick to Cleveland for Jarrett Allen.

I will do #1 and #2 without thinking twice. Allen about to get paid and overlap with Timelord give me pause.


Im not making deal 1 unless some more picks are coming back.
I do not like OUbre at all, and wiseman is a ways out yet.
2023 pick is too far in future to be of worth for me at this time.

If the Minny pick falls outside of top 3 I will take that in there and maybe then.
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Post#86 » by JediMasterRevan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:06 pm

GoGreen wrote:The FO has already said nothing will likely happen. Danny too. So I'm not going to have any high hopes. I'm really sick of waiting, and watching this team play like trash doesn't help.

We'll see what the off season holds. I'm already done with Ainge, but maybe he'll pull something off and hit a winner, ala the Fultz trade.



I am in the same boat as you.

Danny has made some dumb moves, some really nice ones, but more bad than good lately. And listening to him lately its all
"Health, team doesn't know who they are, need to find out who they are, young need to mature" etc.

I dont think he has a clue anymore
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Post#87 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:06 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Here are some trades that haven't been discussed:

1. Jaylen Brown to Golden State for Kelly Oubre, James Wiseman and a 2023 first round pick. Win later move.
2. TT and a first round pick pick to Dallas for Maxi Klieber. I love love to trade Kemba and a pick or two for the Zinger, but I can't see any Dallas interest in Kemba given that Doncic will have the ball most of the time. But I do like Maxi.
3. Langford and a first round pick to Cleveland for Jarrett Allen.


There's a reason none of those deals have ever been discussed.


Which is?
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Post#88 » by CeltsfaninDC » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:14 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure


Which is why all this talk of loading up to win this year is ridiculous. The real window for this team is 2 years from now. We'll compete now, but we need these guys to grow into their roles and that takes some time. Also, the current top dogs will be aging out quickly right when the Js hit their peaks. Patience
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Post#89 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:19 pm

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GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure


Which is why all this talk of loading up to win this year is ridiculous. The real window for this team is 2 years from now. We'll compete now, but we need these guys to grow into their roles and that takes some time. Also, the current top dogs will be aging out quickly right when the Js hit their peaks. Patience

But the problem is their contracts with us only run so long. We have to at least try a little bit or they're going to look elsewhere at teams that can win now.

That's why I want Barnes--he doesn't put you past Brooklyn, but he's a good player and will help the team now and is only 28
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Post#90 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:22 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Here are some trades that haven't been discussed:

1. Jaylen Brown to Golden State for Kelly Oubre, James Wiseman and a 2023 first round pick. Win later move.
2. TT and a first round pick pick to Dallas for Maxi Klieber. I love love to trade Kemba and a pick or two for the Zinger, but I can't see any Dallas interest in Kemba given that Doncic will have the ball most of the time. But I do like Maxi.
3. Langford and a first round pick to Cleveland for Jarrett Allen.


There's a reason none of those deals have ever been discussed.


Which is?


That they suck?

I guess if we are talking about the Ws Minny pick, the first one is semi-plausible. But even then, there is a 40% chance it will get rolled over to next year, which is way too big of a risk.
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Post#91 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:23 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure


Yea it’s an embarrassment of riches when the 2nd best player on the court is coming back and the team they had last night still beats us in 5 or 6
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Post#92 » by ddb » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:23 pm

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GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure


Which is why all this talk of loading up to win this year is ridiculous. The real window for this team is 2 years from now. We'll compete now, but we need these guys to grow into their roles and that takes some time. Also, the current top dogs will be aging out quickly right when the Js hit their peaks. Patience


this is such a dog sh*t take. It's always 2 years from now. Guess what. In 2 years there will be another super duper team and it'll be the window is now extending out 2 more years. . That's the way of the league. Danny is in a position to make his own super team...if he doesn't go for it then in a few years Brown and Tatum will leave and go form another superteam elsewhere. .He has 2 stars. he needs to figure this crap out and get it done.....I don't think they NEED a Harden-type to walk through that door in order to be a better team than BK. BK has 3 players. Shamet won't shoot like he did last night throughout a 7-game series. Neither will Kyrie. Yes Kyrie/KD/Harden is unreal. but the rest of that roster is pedestrian at best. If Danny added a Barnes and another useful vet to what he already has I really like the Celtics chances...BK can't guard anyone....If Boston has 4-5 guys that can score, then BK won't be able to stop Boston...and I like Boston's chances of getting a stop over BK's...... of course all of this assuming Ainge makes a couple moves. If he doesn't then this team simply isn't good enough to compete in the East this year. period. but they aren't far off either
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Post#93 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:26 pm

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GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure


Which is why all this talk of loading up to win this year is ridiculous. The real window for this team is 2 years from now. We'll compete now, but we need these guys to grow into their roles and that takes some time. Also, the current top dogs will be aging out quickly right when the Js hit their peaks. Patience


Your right in theory but imo that’s just dangerous. I don’t think we should make moves worried if the jays leave but in 2 years Jaylen has 1 year left on his deal and could want his own team and leave via free agency. In 2 years another super team can form and easily knock us off the map again.

I understand not going all in this season but I do think ainge is going to have to make some sort of move here soon and don’t think you can keep saying 2 years away we will be ready.
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Post#94 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:26 pm

It’s why we should have gotten harden just to say **** you brooklyn - and stop a super team forming so we would at least having a chance
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Post#95 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:30 pm

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GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure


Which is why all this talk of loading up to win this year is ridiculous. The real window for this team is 2 years from now. We'll compete now, but we need these guys to grow into their roles and that takes some time. Also, the current top dogs will be aging out quickly right when the Js hit their peaks. Patience


this is such a dog sh*t take. It's always 2 years from now. Guess what. In 2 years there will be another super duper team and it'll be the window is now extending out 2 more years. . That's the way of the league. Danny is in a position to make his own super team...if he doesn't go for it then in a few years Brown and Tatum will leave and go form another superteam elsewhere. .He has 2 stars. he needs to figure this crap out and get it done.....I don't think they NEED a Harden-type to walk through that door in order to be a better team than BK. BK has 3 players. Shamet won't shoot like he did last night throughout a 7-game series. Neither will Kyrie. Yes Kyrie/KD/Harden is unreal. but the rest of that roster is pedestrian at best. If Danny added a Barnes and another useful vet to what he already has I really like the Celtics chances...BK can't guard anyone....If Boston has 4-5 guys that can score, then BK won't be able to stop Boston...and I like Boston's chances of getting a stop over BK's...... of course all of this assuming Ainge makes a couple moves. If he doesn't then this team simply isn't good enough to compete in the East this year. period. but they aren't far off either


You had me until Barnes makes a real difference....for us? Sure. Against the nets? Ehh no. As far as the rest of the roster being pedestrian? Yes but when you have 2 mvps and then kyrie you always have 1 of them on the court which is always a better option then what 98% of other teams have scoring wise.

The nets will only need to defend in spots and they will when they need to. They’ll outscore the other teams most of the team and in a tight game like last night they’ll put the onus on you to stop THEM. Most teams won’t be able to.

They aren’t as far away as many think but the moves needed to get there aren’t as easy either and the nets are on a different planet than us. That’s reality
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Post#96 » by flintsky21 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:31 pm

CeltsfaninDC wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure


Which is why all this talk of loading up to win this year is ridiculous. The real window for this team is 2 years from now. We'll compete now, but we need these guys to grow into their roles and that takes some time. Also, the current top dogs will be aging out quickly right when the Js hit their peaks. Patience

There could be a new superteam at that point. We're on the golden age of superteams after all. The Raptors eeked out a title at the peak of the Warriors' domination. There's always a shot, but you've got to put your team in the position to take that shot when it presents itself. And for these Celtics, it doesn't have to be about going all in. Just smaller moves that would make it unnecessary to play guys like Semi, Grant, Javonte or Teague 15 minutes a night.
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Post#97 » by BigTrade92 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:34 pm

Man, some of these names that are being thrown around are just a potpourri of mediocrity...

This roster is in rough shape. Ainge really screwed the pooch in the offseason....well, for the last three seasons to be exact.

Not sure how trading for any of these scrubs does anything to move the needle for us up into contenders-ville.
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CeltsfaninDC wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure

Which is why all this talk of loading up to win this year is ridiculous. The real window for this team is 2 years from now. We'll compete now, but we need these guys to grow into their roles and that takes some time. Also, the current top dogs will be aging out quickly right when the Js hit their peaks. Patience
MagicBagley18 wrote:In 2 years another super team can form and easily knock us off the map again.
ddb wrote:It's always 2 years from now. Guess what. In 2 years there will be another super duper team and it'll be the window is now extending out 2 more years.
flintsky21 wrote:There could be a new superteam at that point. We're on the golden age of superteams after all.

You're all right, of course. The risk is great. But there's also no reason we couldn't be that super team. Could very well have max cap space in Tatum's year 25 season.

As fans, we tend to just always write off every good outcome and only allow the bad ones into our minds. If you start out by assuming we can never win, you're going to wind up concluding we can never win.

There's no way to avoid the risk. The odds of winning by any path are stacked against you. It's all a giant gamble. You just got to make love to the danger. :cuddle
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Post#99 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:34 pm

The big deals are harder to execute. Will just have to wait for the offseason.
The small deals won't move the needle and just aren't worth the trouble.

13 days to go!

Please just play the young guys if we're not doing anything before the deadline. I don't think Teague and Thompson give us more of a chance to win than Pritchard, Nesmith, and Timelord. And by win, I mean win it all.
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Post#100 » by Bohemian » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:37 pm

ddb wrote:
CeltsfaninDC wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Also, I'm seriously at the point with the Nets that they're not only better than the Lakers, but significantly better. Laugh at me all you want, but I think they're that good.

They've won 11 of 12 without KD, beat the Lakers (no AD but still no KD), Spurs, Clippers, Celtics, Suns without KD and Kyrie. Impressive for sure


Which is why all this talk of loading up to win this year is ridiculous. The real window for this team is 2 years from now. We'll compete now, but we need these guys to grow into their roles and that takes some time. Also, the current top dogs will be aging out quickly right when the Js hit their peaks. Patience


this is such a dog sh*t take. It's always 2 years from now. Guess what. In 2 years there will be another super duper team and it'll be the window is now extending out 2 more years. . That's the way of the league. Danny is in a position to make his own super team...if he doesn't go for it then in a few years Brown and Tatum will leave and go form another superteam elsewhere. .He has 2 stars. he needs to figure this crap out and get it done.....I don't think they NEED a Harden-type to walk through that door in order to be a better team than BK. BK has 3 players. Shamet won't shoot like he did last night throughout a 7-game series. Neither will Kyrie. Yes Kyrie/KD/Harden is unreal. but the rest of that roster is pedestrian at best. If Danny added a Barnes and another useful vet to what he already has I really like the Celtics chances...BK can't guard anyone....If Boston has 4-5 guys that can score, then BK won't be able to stop Boston...and I like Boston's chances of getting a stop over BK's...... of course all of this assuming Ainge makes a couple moves. If he doesn't then this team simply isn't good enough to compete in the East this year. period. but they aren't far off either


I agree. Any info if Danny is close to something?

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