It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

Andrew McCeltic · Post #81 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:20 pm

Best case for the summer is to use the TPE on Satoransky or Bagley and trade a rejuvenated Kemba for Horford and Maledon.

Post #82 » by **Feed Your Head** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:21 pm

Fournier isn’t walking after the season, as LBF is saying.

He’s going to be really good for the Jays on and off the court.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #83 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:21 pm

FARM TiME

MagicBagley18 wrote:It’s obvious too well I’m hopeful anyways we will just play tf out of timelord, Pritchard,Langford (if he’s a real person) and just try to integrate them and build up their value

zoyathedestroya · Post #84 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:22 pm

Wes-J wrote:I'm thrilled Theis, Teague, and Green are history but it wasn't enough. Grant and Edwards needed to be purged too. Semi is borderline to me. Sometimes he's useful but he's mostly just an emergency player to me we should never play him.

His hip contusion may keep him out for a while if that's any consolation.

JediMasterRevan · Post #85 » by **JediMasterRevan** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:22 pm

Cannot believe that the team still has se.i, grant and edwards.

3 of the most useless nba players in the league.

I know there are some here that for some reason love grant(pills? Booze?) But if wagner doesnt bump him down the depth chart then brad needs to get fired along qith danny

Andrew McCeltic · Post #86 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:23 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote::evil: FARM TiME

MagicBagley18 wrote:It’s obvious too well I’m hopeful anyways we will just play tf out of timelord, Pritchard,Langford (if he’s a real person) and just try to integrate them and build up their value

You have any idea how close they were on Gordon or how it fit with their thinking about the luxury tax?

Post #87 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:23 pm

We picked up two seven footers, neither of which can rebound to save their life. Wagner may or may not be useful otherwise, but I anticipate that Kornet won't even be allowed to board his flight to Boston.

MagicBagley18 · Post #88 » by **MagicBagley18** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:24 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote::evil: FARM TiME

MagicBagley18 wrote:It’s obvious too well I’m hopeful anyways we will just play tf out of timelord, Pritchard,Langford (if he’s a real person) and just try to integrate them and build up their value

Honestly, at least now this is the roster and the team isn’t a real contender as is- if we can develop some young guys which ends up pumping up their value at least in some aspects they picked a direction.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #89 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:24 pm

The Comedian wrote:Fournier isn’t walking after the season, as LBF is saying.

He’s going to be really good for the Jays on and off the court.

JediMasterRevan · Post #90 » by **JediMasterRevan** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:24 pm

The Comedian wrote:Fournier isn’t walking after the season, as LBF is saying.

He’s going to be really good for the Jays on and off the court.

No one knows that right now.

themoneyteam2 · Post #91 » by **themoneyteam2** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:24 pm

If Fournier re-signs, will they still be able to create a max spot if they can shed Kemba's salary?

Obviously a dream scenario to get a max spot for Beal but wondering if Fournier would erase the dream?

Captain_Caveman · Post #92 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:25 pm

VeryMuchWoke wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:It's incredibly impressive work and frankly why dudes like.zarren get paid. Only a few guys mentioned Fournier to me and I personally brushed it off as nonsense. Guess it makes lots of sense!

I'm curious as to why we didn't go with Gordon given his price tag.

Are we sure he wanted it from us to be the 4th option?

He's under contract, though.

I also mean "price tag" in terms of what Denver gave up for him.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #93 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:25 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:If Fournier re-signs, will they still be able to create a max spot if they can shed Kemba's salary?

Obviously a dream scenario to get a max spot for Beal but wondering if Fournier would erase the dream?

No.

MagicBagley18 · Post #94 » by **MagicBagley18** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:26 pm

Getting Gordon having brad coach him up for a year in a contract season- then he demands a max deal off that year where he puts it all together (funny how that happens huh?) and them him leaving in free agency would also be a disaster too

Captain_Caveman · Post #95 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:26 pm

The Comedian wrote:Fournier isn’t walking after the season, as LBF is saying.

He’s going to be really good for the Jays on and off the court.

How can we say that, though? He might be amenable to staying at a certain number, but another team could offer more.

hugepatsfan · Post #96 » by **hugepatsfan** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:26 pm

Play out this year, hope for the best, whatever. Nothing I've seen leaves me excited. But lookin ahead to this offseason where I expect Fournier to be re-signed with Bird Rights, the pieces I like and would like to keep...

Kemba (not giving up picks to move him) / Pritchard
Smart / Fournier
Brown / ???
Tatum / ???
??? / R Williams

That's the main 10 man rotation. I have 4 ??? spots. In order to fill those spots we have the following trade chips:

Nesmith
Langford
G Williams
Our 1st round pick
Future picks

The pure salary matching trade pieces are as follows:

Thompson's $9.7M expiring deal
$11.05M left on
$4.767M Kanter TPE
$5M Theis TPE

In free agency we will have the tax payer's MLE and the bi-annual exception to use, along with minimum salary deals of course. Bird rights on Semi as well, though I really hope he isn't re-signed unless it's 3rd string depth. Also bird rights on Wagner and early bird rights on Kornet should either emerge as worthy to re-sign as 3rd string depth or somehow break out into more the rest of the way here.

Ainge needs to be aggressive about finding the right players who fit the role and accept it. Doesn't necessarily have to be vets, but those are generally better bets to be good fits for that.

JediMasterRevan · Post #97 » by **JediMasterRevan** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:26 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:If Fournier re-signs, will they still be able to create a max spot if they can shed Kemba's salary?

Obviously a dream scenario to get a max spot for Beal but wondering if Fournier would erase the dream?

Depends on cap and what he resigns for. 15 mill is probably too much for it too happen.

Post #98 » by **Feed Your Head** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:27 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
The Comedian wrote:Fournier isn’t walking after the season, as LBF is saying.

He’s going to be really good for the Jays on and off the court.

How can we say that, though? He might be amenable to staying at a certain number, but another team could offer more.

Well yeah, obvious disclaimer that a team could come in and blow him away. But apparently him and the team have an understanding, and it’s why they were willing to use the TPE now.

Captain_Caveman · Post #99 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:27 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:If Fournier re-signs, will they still be able to create a max spot if they can shed Kemba's salary?

Obviously a dream scenario to get a max spot for Beal but wondering if Fournier would erase the dream?

Depends on cap and what he resigns for. 15 mill is probably too much for it too happen.

We can do 4/80m no problem.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #100 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:28 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote::evil: FARM TiME

MagicBagley18 wrote:It’s obvious too well I’m hopeful anyways we will just play tf out of timelord, Pritchard,Langford (if he’s a real person) and just try to integrate them and build up their value

You have any idea how close they were on Gordon or how it fit with their thinking about the luxury tax?

Not a player they thought moved the needle, believed in rwIII and saw the results of the two big lineup, Gordon is also a bozo