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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#81 » by Jammer » Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:51 pm

What about the following for Ben Simmons???

Two 1rst Round Picks
Marcus Smart
Aaron Nesmith
Juancho Hernangomez
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Post#82 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:56 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Stop the silliness. Smart isn't leading the team to a title, but neither are Tatum and Brown. They keep the team just good enough to stay out of the lottery. I want to be BAD for the next 2-3 years. Get it?


What's silly is trading both Tatum and Brown.


Might be reality if they can't figure this **** out.


Would not surprise me if they trade Brown at the deadline. Would be shocked if they dealt both.
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Post#83 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:02 pm

Jammer wrote:What about the following for Ben Simmons???

Two 1rst Round Picks
Marcus Smart
Aaron Nesmith
Juancho Hernangomez


Not enough for Morey.
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Post#84 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:50 pm

It's kind of pathetic reading all of the proposals attempting to turn this team into chicken salad. It can't be done.
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Post#85 » by cl2117 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:58 pm

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Jammer wrote:What about the following for Ben Simmons???

Two 1rst Round Picks
Marcus Smart
Aaron Nesmith
Juancho Hernangomez


Not enough for Morey.

Yeah it's gotta be Brown, but the question would be what else you get back.

Maybe if you could swing a 3 team type deal where that kind of package goes to a team like Sacramento for Fox who goes to Philly, while Boston get Simmons, but that's probably a stretch. Fox is having a tough year though and SAC don't seem like a good fit for Simmons with them having Hali ready to run the point, so maybe.
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Post#86 » by Parliament10 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:20 pm

Can we Trade Coaches?
It doesn't even have to be for a Head Coach.


Ime Udoka for Sam Cassell


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Post#87 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:24 pm

Rip the bandaid already instead of patching another bandaid. Trade Jaylen for the best possible return. But ONLY if Cs are changing the way they play. 'Cos if we trade him and we'll still run the same uncreative stagnant offense, we'll pretty much get the same result.
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Post#88 » by Feed Your Head » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:29 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Rip the bandaid already instead of patching another bandaid. Trade Jaylen for the best possible return. But ONLY if Cs are changing the way they play. 'Cos if we trade him and we'll still run the same uncreative stagnant offense, we'll pretty much get the same result.


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Post#89 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:33 pm

Jason Tatum and Romeo Langford to the Timberwolves for Patrick Beverley, Taurean Prince, Jake Layman and two unprotected first round picks, including the Wolves' 2023 first rounder.

Then, Jaylen Brown. Marcus Smart and Al Horford to Houston for John Wall, Jalen Green. Usman Garuba and an unprotected first round pick in 2023.
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Post#90 » by Feed Your Head » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:35 pm

Those Wolves picks would be crap. You said yourself Tatum/Jaylen is too good to suck enough. Tatum/Towns is a better version. So Tatum for picks in the late teens or early 20s? C’mon son.

And the Rockets wouldn’t do that trade.

Bring better.
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Post#91 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:37 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Rip the bandaid already instead of patching another bandaid. Trade Jaylen for the best possible return. But ONLY if Cs are changing the way they play. 'Cos if we trade him and we'll still run the same uncreative stagnant offense, we'll pretty much get the same result.


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Post#92 » by Bad-Thoma » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:38 pm

This season, for the first time in a long time, I don't care too much about who get's traded. The team is a mess, as it was last year prior to Ime. It doesn't mean he's a good coach but putting this mess purely in his lap in unfair and I'm giving him an inc. until there is a broader body of work. There's some guys I hope are still here if anything happens but honestly a change is needed so badly I'm not going to be outraged by anything up to and including getting anything for Dennis and punting the rest until the offseason. If we go into next season with the same roster and the same problems I'm going to be watching a lot less basketball.
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Post#93 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:41 pm

Bad-Thoma wrote:This season, for the first time in a long time, I don't care too much about who get's traded. The team is a mess, as it was last year prior to Ime. It doesn't mean he's a good coach but putting this mess purely in his lap in unfair and I'm giving him an inc. until there is a broader body of work. There's some guys I hope are still here if anything happens but honestly a change is needed so badly I'm not going to be outraged by anything up to and including getting anything for Dennis and punting the rest until the offseason. If we go into next season with the same roster and the same problems I'm going to be watching a lot less basketball.

Come on, man, this is still too rational of a take on this board.

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Post#94 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:44 pm

The Comedian wrote:Those Wolves picks would be crap. You said yourself Tatum/Jaylen is too good to suck enough. Tatum/Towns is a better version. So Tatum for picks in the late teens or early 20s? C’mon son.

And the Rockets wouldn’t do that trade.

Bring better.


Tatum, Towns and Russell would be a disaster.

As for the Rockets, who knows? Certainly they would like to turn Wall into useful players. Are you saying they wouldn't part with Jalen Green for Jaylen Brown? LOL, that's even more reason to unload Brown ASAP.

Another home for Brown would be Orlando for Gary Harris and Cole Anthony. But I would want an unprotected pick in that deal too.
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Post#95 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:51 pm

cl2117 wrote:
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Jammer wrote:What about the following for Ben Simmons???

Two 1rst Round Picks
Marcus Smart
Aaron Nesmith
Juancho Hernangomez


Not enough for Morey.

Yeah it's gotta be Brown, but the question would be what else you get back.

Maybe if you could swing a 3 team type deal where that kind of package goes to a team like Sacramento for Fox who goes to Philly, while Boston get Simmons, but that's probably a stretch. Fox is having a tough year though and SAC don't seem like a good fit for Simmons with them having Hali ready to run the point, so maybe.


Swapping Brown for Simmons or Fox just exacerbates the shooting woes.
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Post#96 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:52 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Jason Tatum and Romeo Langford to the Timberwolves for Patrick Beverley, Taurean Prince, Jake Layman and two unprotected first round picks, including the Wolves' 2023 first rounder.

Then, Jaylen Brown. Marcus Smart and Al Horford to Houston for John Wall, Jalen Green. Usman Garuba and an unprotected first round pick in 2023.


Beyond silly.
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Post#97 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:52 pm

Simmos is overpaid and entitled, like Tatum and Brown. That would not be anything remotely close to a championship core.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#98 » by cl2117 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:04 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
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Not enough for Morey.

Yeah it's gotta be Brown, but the question would be what else you get back.

Maybe if you could swing a 3 team type deal where that kind of package goes to a team like Sacramento for Fox who goes to Philly, while Boston get Simmons, but that's probably a stretch. Fox is having a tough year though and SAC don't seem like a good fit for Simmons with them having Hali ready to run the point, so maybe.


Swapping Brown for Simmons or Fox just exacerbates the shooting woes.

The idea would be to pay the price for Fox to swing him to Philly for Simmons without using Brown. Not sure it's possible, but it's obviously vastly preferable to a Brown/Simmons swap.

Still not ideal, but it's something.

I'm also growing fond of a Jrue Holiday type package for Dejounte Murray if the Spurs would listen. He's not gonna fix the shooting woes, but think he could be the bridge we need between Brown/Tatum as a facilitator/playmaker.
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Post#99 » by BK_2020 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:07 pm

Boston's offensive problems is not shooting. It's shot creation.
Simmons is one of the best in the league at creating open 3 point looks and delivering passes on the spot, on time, so that the shooting window doesn't close by the time the pass gets there. Simmons may not shoot from the three himself, but he impacts his team's 3 point percentage.
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Post#100 » by playa-hater » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:14 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Boston's offensive problems is not shooting. It's shot creation.
Simmons is one of the best in the league at creating open 3 point looks and delivering passes on the spot, on time, so that the shooting window doesn't close by the time the pass gets there. Simmons may not shoot from the three himself, but he impacts his team's 3 point percentage.


God dang it, I agree with you on something. Simmons can't shoot to save his life but does make role players better for sure.. Definitely > Brown in that department..
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