Daniel Theis Thread!!!

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How much is left of Theis' seal screens after the various changes in referee emphasis (plus some time for him to adapt)?

[Triple M]

i think there is some value in holding his 9 million as a place holder in a future trade. You didn't want to lose Schroeder's 6 million for nothing. This summer or next deadline it is $$ to add to a trade because any team wouldnt mind 9 million for a back up big that can occasionally start.

He knows the system, knows Tatum/Brown, can block shots which goes well with a team that already does that well, and can spot start if god forbid Rob misses time.

[Celtic Esquire]

Theis really wanted to be back on the Celtics and put his money where is mouth. Can't wait to see him back in green!

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[Triple7]

Bam says Hi Daniel lol.

- Theis is a backup center that happened to start for the Celtics because they didn't have anybody better.
- Bam is a All Star/All NBA caliber big.
- Theis had knee surgery just after the series ended, suggesting he wasn't 100% healthy.
To expect him to hold his own in that matchup is absurd.

By the way, Bam had two big games in that series, game 3 and 6 which coincided with the two games where Theis played less 30 minutes because of foul trouble. Weird. Also, the Celtics were +4 during Theis' time on the floor during the series. I'm not sure he is nearly as responsible for the Celtics defeat as the fans like to paint him to be.

I don't love the contract but I am really glad to have the player back. Looking at his cleaning the glass page, I was shocked to see that since the 2019/2020 season, the team as a whole fouls way less often when he is on the floor. It certainly doesn't feel that way watching the games

Nah! Enough with the excuses already. He is just not good of a defender that some make him out to be. I still have nightmares of that matchup with Bam. Bam got the ball on consecutive plays and just drove to the basket straight up and dunks it on theis’ face one on one. Not only that, there are several plays where Theis got the ball down low, and pump fakes several times against herro or butler, and still passed the ball outside. He is just soft. I’m fine with Theis as a 3rd string C, but paying him 9M per year for 3 more years after this? This was a dumb move from Brad!

[ParticleMan]

Theirs is not particularly good at anything, but he also isn’t particularly bad. On D he blocks shots, is mobile and switchable, and rarely makes mistakes. But he is also undersized, gets overpowered by rugged bigs, and commits too many phantom fouls. He is what he is, and that’s a solid backup vet big. In today’s NBA that is worth 5-6m. He’s paid 8-9. So a few extra mil, for the insurance of a guy who we can rely on and who balances the roster. I think it’s worth it.

I mean it’s not like the guy is making 27m a year while also shooting 29% from 3.

[jmr07019]

Bam says Hi Daniel lol.

- Theis is a backup center that happened to start for the Celtics because they didn't have anybody better.
- Bam is a All Star/All NBA caliber big.
- Theis had knee surgery just after the series ended, suggesting he wasn't 100% healthy.
To expect him to hold his own in that matchup is absurd.

By the way, Bam had two big games in that series, game 3 and 6 which coincided with the two games where Theis played less 30 minutes because of foul trouble. Weird. Also, the Celtics were +4 during Theis' time on the floor during the series. I'm not sure he is nearly as responsible for the Celtics defeat as the fans like to paint him to be.

I don't love the contract but I am really glad to have the player back. Looking at his cleaning the glass page, I was shocked to see that since the 2019/2020 season, the team as a whole fouls way less often when he is on the floor. It certainly doesn't feel that way watching the games

The refs get so distracted watching Theis they don't see our other guys committing fouls

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Bam says Hi Daniel lol.

- Theis is a backup center that happened to start for the Celtics because they didn't have anybody better.
- Bam is a All Star/All NBA caliber big.
- Theis had knee surgery just after the series ended, suggesting he wasn't 100% healthy.
To expect him to hold his own in that matchup is absurd.

By the way, Bam had two big games in that series, game 3 and 6 which coincided with the two games where Theis played less 30 minutes because of foul trouble. Weird. Also, the Celtics were +4 during Theis' time on the floor during the series. I'm not sure he is nearly as responsible for the Celtics defeat as the fans like to paint him to be.

I don't love the contract but I am really glad to have the player back. Looking at his cleaning the glass page, I was shocked to see that since the 2019/2020 season, the team as a whole fouls way less often when he is on the floor. It certainly doesn't feel that way watching the games

Nah! Enough with the excuses already. He is just not good of a defender that some make him out to be. I still have nightmares of that matchup with Bam. Bam got the ball on consecutive plays and just drove to the basket straight up and dunks it on theis’ face one on one. Not only that, there are several plays where Theis got the ball down low, and pump fakes several times against herro or butler, and still passed the ball outside. He is just soft. I’m fine with Theis as a 3rd string C, but paying him 9M per year for 3 more years after this? This was a dumb move from Brad!

Excluding Romeo who played like two minutes, Theis had the best defensive rating on the team during that conference finals (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/advanced/?sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3&TeamID=1610612738). The Heat had a 112 offensive rating in the regular season, 113 in the playoffs and 114 in the conference finals but just 109 when Theis was on the floor in the ECF (which means that considering the number of minutes he played, when he was off the floor the Celtics had like a 123 defensive rating). The Heat couldn't score at their normal level with Theis in the game but looked like the best offense of all time when he was off the floor. Your takeaway from that series is oh no his defense must be trash because Adebayo dunked on his head twice. By the way, on my team, I'd rather have the guys that end up on posters than get out of the way.

You clearly don't like Theis. That's fine but there's no need to make stuff up to prop up your opinion. To suggest that Theis' defense against Miami was nightmarish is just plain false. Also it doesn't make sense to say that Theis is a third string guy and then get mad that he allegedly couldn't stop Bam. Third stringers can't guard All NBA guys. If they could they wouldn't be buried at the end of the bench. Give me one third unit guy in this league that can consistently stop an all star. I'll wait.

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[robbie84]

We finally have proof that Brad has a unhealthy love affair with Theis. Danny did him a favor by getting rid of him before, now Brad is undoing it.

Schroeder was in demand by contending teams, you could have gotten a real nice piece back. To give up Schroeder, PLUS Kanter to get back a below-average rotation piece with a low-ceiling like Theis is a complete waste of the value Schroder had built.

Awful trade. Celtics are worse today and worse long-term.

You are clueless mate.

[31to6]

so.. where is Daniel Theis? Back in Boston yet? Can we expect him to suit up and make a new debut for the Cs anytime soon?

[greenroom31]

so.. where is Daniel Theis? Back in Boston yet? Can we expect him to suit up and make a new debut for the Cs anytime soon?

Asked my source about it today. He said purely administrative and he’ll be ready soon.

[Curmudgeon]

He has to wait until the small army of players sent to Houston complete their physicals.

[Shak_Celts]

I'm not saying schro is dragging his feet on purpose, I'm just saying someone is a hater.

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[Jammer]

i think there is some value in holding his 9 million as a place holder in a future trade. You didn't want to lose Schroeder's 6 million for nothing. This summer or next deadline it is $$ to add to a trade because any team wouldnt mind 9 million for a back up big that can occasionally start.

He knows the system, knows Tatum/Brown, can block shots which goes well with a team that already does that well, and can spot start if god forbid Rob misses time.

Although Theis waved his 15% Trade Kicker to come back to Boston, does anyone know if he waived it completely for the future???

Meaning, if the Celtics were to try to trade him, would he still be eligible for his 15% Trade Kicker to a new destination, or did the Celtics require him to waive it altogether (I would have played my poker hand that way)??

[sam_I_am]

i think there is some value in holding his 9 million as a place holder in a future trade. You didn't want to lose Schroeder's 6 million for nothing. This summer or next deadline it is $$ to add to a trade because any team wouldnt mind 9 million for a back up big that can occasionally start.

He knows the system, knows Tatum/Brown, can block shots which goes well with a team that already does that well, and can spot start if god forbid Rob misses time.

The year Theis started and team went to ECF in bubble was remarkable because Theis seamlessly filled in for Horford. Our struggles against Miami had a lot more to do with Hayward injury than Theis troubles against Bam. Last year, Theis was pretty bad and I think it had more to do with playing PF next to Tristen.

With White filling the playmaking wing hole left by Hayward, I expect Theis to return to form. We all know that Horford is on the back 9 of his career. If we waive him, he will take the most money he can get so there is no guarantee that we can resign him. If we trade him and he gets waived, there is no guarantee he will choose to come back. Theis contract is actually a big plus because he is a good fit and is great insurance for potential loss of Al. We were not going to be able to resign Theis this past off season which is why Danny traded him away. It’s not likely we would find another back up big other than Kanter had we not traded for him. It’s even possible he could be better than Al right now and could even take his minutes, although I doubt it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this off season we pull a similar move next year and trade a TPE to bring back JRich if we can’t get a third star with Al’s expiring.

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i think there is some value in holding his 9 million as a place holder in a future trade. You didn't want to lose Schroeder's 6 million for nothing. This summer or next deadline it is $$ to add to a trade because any team wouldnt mind 9 million for a back up big that can occasionally start.

He knows the system, knows Tatum/Brown, can block shots which goes well with a team that already does that well, and can spot start if god forbid Rob misses time.

The year Theis started and team went to ECF in bubble was remarkable because Theis seamlessly filled in for Horford. Our struggles against Miami had a lot more to do with Hayward injury than Theis troubles against Bam. Last year, Theis was pretty bad and I think it had more to do with playing PF next to Tristen.

With White filling the playmaking wing hole left by Hayward, I expect Theis to return to form. We all know that Horford is on the back 9 of his career. If we waive him, he will take the most money he can get so there is no guarantee that we can resign him. If we trade him and he gets waived, there is no guarantee he will choose to come back. Theis contract is actually a big plus because he is a good fit and is great insurance for potential loss of Al. We were not going to be able to resign Theis this past off season which is why Danny traded him away. It’s not likely we would find another back up big other than Kanter had we not traded for him. It’s even possible he could be better than Al right now and could even take his minutes, although I doubt it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this off season we pull a similar move next year and trade a TPE to bring back JRich if we can’t get a third star with Al’s expiring.

Without looking it up right now, I question whether we'll have one, because I think both:
-- Our current largest TPE is the Richardson one.
-- Richardson's salary goes up next year.

[sam_I_am]

i think there is some value in holding his 9 million as a place holder in a future trade. You didn't want to lose Schroeder's 6 million for nothing. This summer or next deadline it is $$ to add to a trade because any team wouldnt mind 9 million for a back up big that can occasionally start.

He knows the system, knows Tatum/Brown, can block shots which goes well with a team that already does that well, and can spot start if god forbid Rob misses time.

The year Theis started and team went to ECF in bubble was remarkable because Theis seamlessly filled in for Horford. Our struggles against Miami had a lot more to do with Hayward injury than Theis troubles against Bam. Last year, Theis was pretty bad and I think it had more to do with playing PF next to Tristen.

With White filling the playmaking wing hole left by Hayward, I expect Theis to return to form. We all know that Horford is on the back 9 of his career. If we waive him, he will take the most money he can get so there is no guarantee that we can resign him. If we trade him and he gets waived, there is no guarantee he will choose to come back. Theis contract is actually a big plus because he is a good fit and is great insurance for potential loss of Al. We were not going to be able to resign Theis this past off season which is why Danny traded him away. It’s not likely we would find another back up big other than Kanter had we not traded for him. It’s even possible he could be better than Al right now and could even take his minutes, although I doubt it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this off season we pull a similar move next year and trade a TPE to bring back JRich if we can’t get a third star with Al’s expiring.

Without looking it up right now, I question whether we'll have one, because I think both:
-- Our current largest TPE is the Richardson one.
-- Richardson's salary goes up next year.

That’s what I thought too but many posters here are saying we didn’t use up the Fournier TPE.

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The year Theis started and team went to ECF in bubble was remarkable because Theis seamlessly filled in for Horford. Our struggles against Miami had a lot more to do with Hayward injury than Theis troubles against Bam. Last year, Theis was pretty bad and I think it had more to do with playing PF next to Tristen.

With White filling the playmaking wing hole left by Hayward, I expect Theis to return to form. We all know that Horford is on the back 9 of his career. If we waive him, he will take the most money he can get so there is no guarantee that we can resign him. If we trade him and he gets waived, there is no guarantee he will choose to come back. Theis contract is actually a big plus because he is a good fit and is great insurance for potential loss of Al. We were not going to be able to resign Theis this past off season which is why Danny traded him away. It’s not likely we would find another back up big other than Kanter had we not traded for him. It’s even possible he could be better than Al right now and could even take his minutes, although I doubt it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this off season we pull a similar move next year and trade a TPE to bring back JRich if we can’t get a third star with Al’s expiring.

Without looking it up right now, I question whether we'll have one, because I think both:
-- Our current largest TPE is the Richardson one.
-- Richardson's salary goes up next year.

That’s what I thought too but many posters here are saying we didn’t use up the Fournier TPE.

We surely used most of it.

The reason there's a Richardson TPE is that White wasn't traded for Richardson; rather, he was traded into the Fournier TPE.

The weirdest part is this: Richardson was originally acquired into the part of the Hayward TPE that was not used on Fournier. Now he's been traded away in a deal that does involve the Fournier part of the TPE.