Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023-24 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption!

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YAS do it
I view this as a risk totally worth taking.
Pending pick(s) announcement, fingers crossed they keep it to one 1st outbound.

[Castle Black]

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[Andrew McCeltic]

Anyone else think, that when he is healthy like this past season, KP is a better second option offensively than Brown?

He is more efficient, that is for sure.
and that was as a 2nd and for some time a primary offensive option on a FAR WORSE team.

I think Porzingas becomes the #2a, brown the #2b.

Other big risk is three scorers who love to take turns and don’t mesh well.

[31to6]

All the Gallo talk. I can't see the Celtics doing Gallo dirty like that and dealing him to Washington or the Clippers. They'll use the ham and eggers to fill salary.

Ya I don't think this really factors into the C's thinking, at all. You're trying to win a championship, and if you add KP and don't trade Horford or Williams then Galo suddenly has a lot less of a role here anyway. I don't think they are worried at mid-level-exception guys feelings.

Not so much feelings its the fact Gallo can also shoot 3s which this team LOVES.

Gallo signing was always a “miss” and I hope they don’t give a rat’s ass about him and his fine suits, what a Poindexter

[Bill Lumbergh]

i hope we keep muscy, get him more involved this season. 15 mins with al as the center.

Not sure about 15 mins, but he can definitely give you some competent minutes. He never got much of a shot last year. Can definitely give you some middle innings relief.

Could get good minutes when Al isn't playing back-to-backs, or in situations where one of the bigs goes down for a little time.

That's true. I wasn't considering that. I never knew why Joe didn't give him more of a shot last year. Not that I think he's a world beater, but he seemed like he was capable of giving minutes without hurting you, and he can get hot from 3.

[Andrew McCeltic]

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[165bows]

Ya I don't think this really factors into the C's thinking, at all. You're trying to win a championship, and if you add KP and don't trade Horford or Williams then Galo suddenly has a lot less of a role here anyway. I don't think they are worried at mid-level-exception guys feelings.

Not so much feelings its the fact Gallo can also shoot 3s which this team LOVES.

Gallo signing was always a “miss” and I hope they don’t give a rat’s ass about him and his fine suits, what a Poindexter

You will take that back when the KP/Gallo/Tatum/Hauser/White lineup is looking all humongous and raining threes.

[31to6]

Love this for Boston
Kristaps is 28? Has been through enough stuff to be ready to win. And is going to get one **** of open looks!

[Larry_Russell]

Not sure about 15 mins, but he can definitely give you some competent minutes. He never got much of a shot last year. Can definitely give you some middle innings relief.

Could get good minutes when Al isn't playing back-to-backs, or in situations where one of the bigs goes down for a little time.

That's true. I wasn't considering that. I never knew why Joe didn't give him more of a shot last year. Not that I think he's a world beater, but he seemed like he was capable of giving minutes without hurting you, and he can get hot from 3.

I thknk he was Hurt,, but he has a 4 million ish dollar contract, he might get lost in the numbers.

I would rather keep Pritchard who we will need as a backup pg (unless Brad knowds he can sign a vet on the cheap)

[ddb]

First trade in Boston history that makes me want to throw up.. Risk is off the charts but the talent upgrade is, too.

Repeat: Brad's turned the tax MLE (Schroeder), Aaron Nesmith and the 26th pick in the draft into Kristaps Porzingis..

I'm not sure why this makes you feel so uneasy. This would be such a win for Boston. Zinger is a health risk, yes. So isn't Brogdon. Case and point in the ECF's. When you look at overall impact on winning, Zinger far surpasses the impact Brogdon brought to the team. Zinger not only stretches the floor effectively, but he can shoot over pretty much anyone. His post-game is smooth. Zinger is a threat at all 3 levels offensively which will do wonders stretching the floor for JT/JB. And vice versa, Zinger on single coverage can COOK people.
Defensively, he's going to struggle staying in front of some guys, but if he's on the floor with Timelord or AL, you now have multiple players that can block shots and protect one another. Not to mention Boston has really good perimeter defense.

Brad is a basketball genius. I'm really starting to think that. 1 super star in Tatum. 2 supporting stars in JB/Zinger. Perimeter defenders in Smart/White...Tatum & Brown long wing defenders. Interior defenders. This team has EVERYTHING. The pieces will fit.

Injuries? You cannot worry about that. It's part of the game. Even with guys missing time, this team is going to be LOADED. Not to mention Brad has a whole offseason to shape the roster.

[31to6]

I think Porzingis can play next to Rob OH **** the paint is going to be CLOSED FOR BUSINESS sorry son, go around

[Larry_Russell]

Anyone else think, that when he is healthy like this past season, KP is a better second option offensively than Brown?

He is more efficient, that is for sure.
and that was as a 2nd and for some time a primary offensive option on a FAR WORSE team.

I think Porzingas becomes the #2a, brown the #2b.

Other big risk is three scorers who love to take turns and don’t mesh well.

yup, but Brad Beal and KP looked really good together last season.

I would have to expect Tatum and KP would as well.

Brown would fill the Kuzma roll that Washington had...the 3rd guy. And he would be the best 3rd guy in the league, imo.

[keevsnick1]

Anyone else think, that when he is healthy like this past season, KP is a better second option offensively than Brown?

He is more efficient, that is for sure.
and that was as a 2nd and for some time a primary offensive option on a FAR WORSE team.

I think Porzingas becomes the #2a, brown the #2b.

Ehhhh, KP isnt actually far more efficient than Brown. He was last year, 58% TS vs 62 for KP. But for that was by far KP
's best year, and Brown has some bad three point luck. For their career Brown has a 57% TS and KP a 56% TS.

KP's TS for a center is actually not good, but thats mostly becasue he takes a lot of threes for a center. 6.0 3pa's per 36 just behind Al at 6.1 and KAT at 6.2. So fans who hate bombing threes probably going to tera their heart out.

IN any case KP and Brown VERY different players and roles.

[31to6]

First trade in Boston history that makes me want to throw up.. Risk is off the charts but the talent upgrade is, too.

Repeat: Brad's turned the tax MLE (Schroeder), Aaron Nesmith and the 26th pick in the draft into Kristaps Porzingis..

I'm not sure why this makes you feel so uneasy. This would be such a win for Boston. Zinger is a health risk, yes. So isn't Brogdon. Case and point in the ECF's. When you look at overall impact on winning, Zinger far surpasses the impact Brogdon brought to the team. Zinger not only stretches the floor effectively, but he can shoot over pretty much anyone. His post-game is smooth. Zinger is a threat at all 3 levels offensively which will do wonders stretching the floor for JT/JB. And vice versa, Zinger on single coverage can COOK people.
Defensively, he's going to struggle staying in front of some guys, but if he's on the floor with Timelord or AL, you now have multiple players that can block shots and protect one another. Not to mention Boston has really good perimeter defense.

Brad is a basketball genius. I'm really starting to think that. 1 super star in Tatum. 2 supporting stars in JB/Zinger. Perimeter defenders in Smart/White...Tatum & Brown long wing defenders. Interior defenders. This team has EVERYTHING. The pieces will fit.

Injuries? You cannot worry about that. It's part of the game. Even with guys missing time, this team is going to be LOADED. Not to mention Brad has a whole offseason to shape the roster.

If people wanted Beal as a 3rd option, they are going to lose their mind when they see Boston with a 20ppg center.

JT/JB/KP will be the best current trio in basketball.

[bisme37]

I like the trade a lot but I can't help feeling bad for Brogdon. He chose the Celtics and came here to win title but then tore his elbow and we obviously didn't win anything. Great dude, had a great season, was the Sixth Man of the Year, and I wish it would have turned out differently.

[Drax]

Brad liked the Zinger for a long long time, it's overdue. We need to tag the Zinger on twitter so that he opts in faster ...

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thats a scene i havent seen for a looooooooong time.

[keevsnick1]

All the Gallo talk. I can't see the Celtics doing Gallo dirty like that and dealing him to Washington or the Clippers. They'll use the ham and eggers to fill salary.

Ya I don't think this really factors into the C's thinking, at all. You're trying to win a championship, and if you add KP and don't trade Horford or Williams then Galo suddenly has a lot less of a role here anyway. I don't think they are worried at mid-level-exception guys feelings.

Not so much feelings its the fact Gallo can also shoot 3s which this team LOVES.

Well then good news because KP also shoots a lot of threes. Unless a center is getting trades after this Galo just doesnt have a lot of role on a team with Horford/KP/Williams as the bigs, Doubly so if Grant returns.

[165bows]

I think Porzingis can play next to Rob OH **** the paint is going to be CLOSED FOR BUSINESS sorry son, go around

Really curious about this part. Not totally sure but they have some lineup combos that could be totally killer here.

[Jellybeans]

I think Porzingis can play next to Rob OH **** the paint is going to be CLOSED FOR BUSINESS sorry son, go around

KP played for months with Gafford together. Both where in top 10 blockers with KP leading lowest % in restricted area in the league