In-Season Tournament – Nets @ Celtics – 7:30PM, Fri, Nov. 10, 2023

[BK_2020]

Nah I’m
Talking about him questioning if we had a timeout at the end of regulation vs the Wolves.

Jaylen Brown called out Joe for not calling a timeout and letting him take a wide open three instead oh lmao lmfao even.

this was a response to Hal dictating how people should feel about our team/coach etc. Barely had anything to do with Brown man. You need a hug? lmao

My bad bro, I thought you said Jaylen Brown called out Joe during a press conference for not calling a timeout.

[CelticsPride18]

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Like I said before Gary is trying to stir up some drama. He’s always been a jackass. I’m glad Joe cooked that POS in the presser.

[KillahGhostface]

Washburn wanted us to hire Doc, and had been a baby since. He was also a baby before, so lol.

[tfribs45]

Holy condescending lol.

lmao this guy thinks it's a dictatorship around here!, he's not even an MOD hahahahahahaha

[lon3lytoaster]

I don't think I'll be able to move on until we win a chip, especially when the replacement has not been convincing at all. Many may have moved on but I think for the ones who still have the "what if" in their minds, I think its a perfectly reasonable feeling

Idk what Udoka did but unless it one day comes out for sure, we'll all be wondering if this firing was necessary. Too bad though, he was a damn good coach and a great leader.

No, not everybody wonders why firing someone for sexual harassement is necessary. For some of us, it's actually pretty obvious why it had to be done. Hopefully you'll get there some day.

If you want to play a morality card, we immediately tagged Joe as the interim with a battery charge on a woman. So there is that.

[fallguy]

This thread is already teetering on the edge of the cliff and we're still hours from game time.

[lon3lytoaster]

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Like I said before Gary is trying to stir up some drama. He’s always been a jackass. I’m glad Joe cooked that POS in the presser.

How is this stirring up drama? It's a fair critique on the team. Joe, self-admittedly is very stubborn. He has a number in his head for what he thinks is good offense and he wants to hit that number regardless of how they come. He truly believes that is a winning recipe for this team.

The problem isn't in the volume, it is indeed with the philosophy. The offense stagnates way too often, which we've seen for over 100 games now, including playoffs, with Mazzulla Ball. They have everyone playing five-out, which is fine.. everyone does. However, there is no movement and players just wait to receive a pass from the top of the key most often and take the first available three pointer there is.

Against good defensive teams like Minnesota, now Philadelphia and even Miami still this season we've seen them stop moving the ball and stop getting paint touches to get those threes.

It's a very unreliable, hot and cold offense. Yes, it's easy to get excited about when it's going well like it did early last season before they got figured out but it is and will continue to be unreliable in the post-season against the better teams.

Re:Washburn. Yes, he can be a prick but I take that as more just not being willing to be pushed around or intimidated by asking fair questions there may not be an easy answer to.

[Green89]

So, the NBA admits that Embiid stepped out of bounds last game. We would have got the ball back with nearly 4 seconds. Why on earth wasn't it reviewed in game? Under two minutes, I thought those were reviewable.

[Hal14]

Idk what Udoka did but unless it one day comes out for sure, we'll all be wondering if this firing was necessary. Too bad though, he was a damn good coach and a great leader.

No, not everybody wonders why firing someone for sexual harassement is necessary. For some of us, it's actually pretty obvious why it had to be done. Hopefully you'll get there some day.

If you want to play a morality card, we immediately tagged Joe as the interim with a battery charge on a woman. So there is that.

Those 2 situations are extremely different.

The Mazzulla incident was over 14 yrs ago, when he was just a college kid, well before he was employed by the Celtics and he was not convicted. Obviously examining that situation was part of the vetting process when he got hired on as an assistant with the Red Claws 7 years ago and has been water under the bridge for quite some time now. Since then, Mazzulla has been hired as a coach for 3 different organizations, has gotten married and is happily raising 2 kids with his wife.

Much different than Udoka doing something while employed by the Celtics, having relations and harassing a woman who was also employed by the Celtics and was a subordinate and immediately an investigation was done by the team, and immediately once the investigation was done, he was suspended for the entire season. The incident cost Udoka his job - also he split up with his fiancee because of it and is now a deadbeat dad. There were also reports that Udoka was involved in similar sketchy incidents multiple times before being hired by the Celtics - he's a known creep.

We're getting way off topic, though. This doesn't really pertain to tonight's Celtics vs Nets game..so I'll bow out of the discussion here..

[Hal14]

So, the NBA admits that Embiid stepped out of bounds last game. We would have got the ball back with nearly 4 seconds. Why on earth wasn't it reviewed in game? Under two minutes, I thought those were reviewable.

One of the writers (Karalis or Keith Smith, I think) said it's not reviewable because it wasn't actually a call that was made. It's not like they called him out of bounds and then could review if that call was correct or not.

But then again, I'm not sure if that adds up. Because what if there was a buzzer-beater, the shot goes in, no call (out of bounds, foul or whatever) is technically made. But they're still gonna probably review it to verify that the shot went in before the buzzer, right?

[lon3lytoaster]

No, not everybody wonders why firing someone for sexual harassement is necessary. For some of us, it's actually pretty obvious why it had to be done. Hopefully you'll get there some day.

If you want to play a morality card, we immediately tagged Joe as the interim with a battery charge on a woman. So there is that.

Those 2 situations are extremely different.

The Mazzulla incident was like 20 yrs ago, when he was just a college kid, well before he was employed by the Celtics and he was not convicted. Obviously examining that situation was part of the vetting process when he got hired on as an assistant with the Red Claws 7 years ago and has been water under the bridge for quite some time now. Since then, Mazzulla has been hired as a coach for 3 different organizations, has gotten married and is happily raising 2 kids with his wife.

Much different than Udoka doing something while employed by the Celtics, having relations and harassing a woman who was also employed by the Celtics and was a subordinate and immediately an investigation was done by the team, and immediately once the investigation was done, he was suspended for the entire season. The incident cost Udoka his job - also he split up with his fiancee because of it and is now a deadbeat dad. There were also reports that Udoka was involved in similar sketchy incidents multiple times before being hired by the Celtics - he's a known creep.

One, Mazzulla is 35 so dear oh my if he was also abusing women at 15. This is literally all conjecture on your part. In "20 years" since Mazzulla's incident, he's been hired by three organizations. Great. In one since Udoka's, he's been hired by one. What's your point? Is Houston just willingly in the market for known creeps? I don't get it. Is Kathleen Lynch a creep and a dead-beat mom for also having a [consensual] affair?

Justifying a battery charge as someone just being a kid, while demonizing two people both doing wrong is an interesting way to paint it, but you wear whatever tinted glasses you'd like.

[zoyathedestroya]

So, the NBA admits that Embiid stepped out of bounds last game. We would have got the ball back with nearly 4 seconds. Why on earth wasn't it reviewed in game? Under two minutes, I thought those were reviewable.

One of the writers (Karalis or Keith Smith, I think) said it's not reviewable because it wasn't actually a call that was made. It's not like they called him out of bounds and then could review if that call was correct or not.

But then again, I'm not sure if that adds up. Because what if there was a buzzer-beater, the shot goes in, no call (out of bounds, foul or whatever) is technically made. But they're still gonna probably review it to verify that the shot went in before the buzzer, right?

In the rulebook, stepping out of bounds is not reviewable. Ball going out of bounds is.

https://official.nba.com/trigger/out-of-bounds-play/

Except remember when they took points off Miami in the 2022 ECF Game 7? They ruled Strus was stepping on the line when he made the corner three. Nothing triggered the review there either. So dunno how Embiid stepping out of bounds is any different. Maybe because it didn't directly lead to points?

[KillahGhostface]

Holy condescending lol.

[BK_2020]

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Like I said before Gary is trying to stir up some drama. He’s always been a jackass. I’m glad Joe cooked that POS in the presser.

How is this stirring up drama? It's a fair critique on the team. Joe, self-admittedly is very stubborn. He has a number in his head for what he thinks is good offense and he wants to hit that number regardless of how they come. He truly believes that is a winning recipe for this team.

The problem isn't in the volume, it is indeed with the philosophy. The offense stagnates way too often, which we've seen for over 100 games now, including playoffs, with Mazzulla Ball. They have everyone playing five-out, which is fine.. everyone does. However, there is no movement and players just wait to receive a pass from the top of the key most often and take the first available three pointer there is.

Against good defensive teams like Minnesota, now Philadelphia and even Miami still this season we've seen them stop moving the ball and stop getting paint touches to get those threes.

It's a very unreliable, hot and cold offense. Yes, it's easy to get excited about when it's going well like it did early last season before they got figured out but it is and will continue to be unreliable in the post-season against the better teams.

Re:Washburn. Yes, he can be a prick but I take that as more just not being willing to be pushed around or intimidated by asking fair questions there may not be an easy answer to.

The Celtics offensive rating was 110 in 2022 playoffs, 117 in 2023. There were plenty off stagnant moments in 2022 playoffs, including the pivotal Game 4 of the Finals, when up 94-90 with 5 minutes left we missed 6 straight threes (all of them open). There's zero evidence presented showing that our offense under Ime or Brad was consistent and always got points no matter what. The same criticism got thrown around with those two when they were coaching.
Also we rarely just stand in a circle then shoot a three unless the defense is sagging off. In which case, why wouldn't you?

[GoGreen]

I don't think I'll be able to move on until we win a chip, especially when the replacement has not been convincing at all. Many may have moved on but I think for the ones who still have the "what if" in their minds, I think its a perfectly reasonable feeling

Idk what Udoka did but unless it one day comes out for sure, we'll all be wondering if this firing was necessary. Too bad though, he was a damn good coach and a great leader.

No, not everybody wonders why firing someone for sexual harassement is necessary. For some of us, it's actually pretty obvious why it had to be done. Hopefully you'll get there some day.

Oh get off your high horse. It's easy to be high and mighty behind a keyboard.

My comment was very clear; I don't know what happened and neither do you because, at be best, we had a vague explanation given to us at the presser and that's it. The players don't even know what happened and they admitted as much. But yes, you certainly have all the answers.

Please let me know this weeks winning lotto numbers.

[BK_2020]

Here's the first 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter. We shoot like 9 threes and one layup. We score 8 points. The offense is stagnant in the sense that we did not score a ton of points. But that doesn't mean the process was bad. Despite the handwringing, there was no standing around in a circle, passing it around and launching threes, or a lot of bad ISO. The video is backwards.

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Poss. 1 - Spain screen for Tatum, pass to Jrue who fakes a drive and is open for a three
Poss. 2 - Jaylen seals Maxie down low, pass to Porzingis who swings it to White for an open three
Poss. 3 - Jrue Porzingis 2 man action. Jrue comes off the screen, stops and pulls up for a contested three. A common move to draw a foul. Did not work there.
Poss. 4 - Tatum Porzingis 2 man action. Jrue v-cuts back up top and draws Embiid out, freeing Porzingis for a lob. The threat of a 3 opened up the inside.
Poss. 5 - Jaylen offensive foul posting up Maxie.
Poss. 6 - On an out of bounds play, White sets a screen for Tatum who cuts to the basket and empties that side. White open for a 3.
Poss. 7 - Semi-transition. Jaylen fakes a 3, pass to Tatum who fakes and passes to White for an open corner 3.
Poss. 8 - White pnr with Horford. Oubre drops hard and gives up a pull up.
Poss. 9 - Jaylen and Horford 2 man game. Jaylen behind the back pass to Horford, who is left wide open.
Poss. 10 - Jrue posting up Maxie and draws Embiid, pass to Horford who swings it to Tatum for an open 3.
We got 8 points out of this.

[tfribs45]

This thread is already teetering on the edge of the cliff and we're still hours from game time.

C's in a landslide tonight! going to be Geno time boyeeeeeee. That will take many off the cliff again

[steefP2]

Here's the first 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter. We shoot like 9 threes and one layup. We score 8 points. The offense is stagnant in the sense that we did not score a ton of points. But that doesn't mean the process was bad. Despite the handwringing, there was no standing around in a circle, passing it around and launching threes, or a lot of bad ISO. The video is backwards.

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Poss. 1 - Spain screen for Tatum, pass to Jrue who fakes a drive and is open for a three
Poss. 2 - Jaylen seals Maxie down low, pass to Porzingis who swings it to White for an open three
Poss. 3 - Jrue Porzingis 2 man action. Jrue comes off the screen, stops and pulls up for a contested three. A common move to draw a foul. Did not work there.
Poss. 4 - Tatum Porzingis 2 man action. Jrue v-cuts back up top and draws Embiid out, freeing Porzingis for a lob. The threat of a 3 opened up the inside.
Poss. 5 - Jaylen offensive foul posting up Maxie.
Poss. 6 - On an out of bounds play, White sets a screen for Tatum who cuts to the basket and empties that side. White open for a 3.
Poss. 7 - Semi-transition. Jaylen fakes a 3, pass to Tatum who fakes and passes to White for an open corner 3.
Poss. 8 - White pnr with Horford. Oubre drops hard and gives up a pull up.
Poss. 9 - Jaylen and Horford 2 man game. Jaylen behind the back pass to Horford, who is left wide open.
Poss. 10 - Jrue posting up Maxie and draws Embiid, pass to Horford who swings it to Tatum for an open 3.
We got 8 points out of this.

Was the same the first quarter; should’ve scored 35-45 in that quarter on those looks. Looked way better than the minny game which makes sense as the sixers aren’t in the same league defensively.


It’s like folks just assume missed shots =bad process.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Idk what Udoka did but unless it one day comes out for sure, we'll all be wondering if this firing was necessary. Too bad though, he was a damn good coach and a great leader.

No, not everybody wonders why firing someone for sexual harassement is necessary. For some of us, it's actually pretty obvious why it had to be done. Hopefully you'll get there some day.

Oh get off your high horse. It's easy to be high and mighty behind a keyboard.

My comment was very clear; I don't know what happened and neither do you because, at be best, we had a vague explanation given to us at the presser and that's it. The players don't even know what happened and they admitted as much. But yes, you certainly have all the answers.

Please let me know this weeks winning lotto numbers.

Yes you are right. I don't know everything that happened. I'm a bit fuzzy on the timeline. Can you remind me when Udoka displayed his "great" leadership qualities ? Was it before, after or while he was sexually harassing other members of the Celtics organization ?

[Ben-N1ce]

Have we signed old as dirt and washed John Wall to replace washed PP yet?