Celts Get Royally Bucked! Loss vs MIL 1/11

[GrandTheftRondo]

That is Joe's Fault. = He's the one who over-played them.
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~ Parl

A back to back against Minnesota and Milwaukee is brutal.

We were bound to lose one.

They got stuck in a dogfight last night and the starters ended up playing extra minutes in OT.

Not a big deal.

We navigated 5 games in 7 nights pretty much as well as we could have hoped.

TBH, We actually could have Won both Games.
That's part of the Point that many have been making. = Play the Bench.

Mazzulla needed to play the Bench in the 1st Game.
Instead, he was forced to play them in the 2nd Game.

There's no getting around it. 5 Starters Cannot Win a Championship on their own.
Gotta play the Bench.

I disagree.

I’d be very surprised if the analytics didn’t point to this game being one of those scheduled losses every team has every season.

The Bucks had 3 nights off. We played 5 games in 7 days.

Hauser, Pritchard and Kornet all played over 15 minutes last night.

Take away the 5 minutes of OT and all the starters are at normal minutes for a close game.

We don’t just miraculously stay in that game by playing Hauser, Kornet, Pritchard and Brissett more minutes. Have you forgotten Minnesota were running away with that game? How do we just end up winning that game by playing more bench?

I also want the starters getting decent reps in close games like last night.

[Parliament10]

The Celtics have played exceptional basketball and are still only like 3 games in front of the Bucks.

We are not in a position to be going 10-11 deep every night. We have some really bad players on the bench and we’ve also been weathering the storm through a really tough schedule to start the season.

I don’t get how the Celtics haven’t been playing the season? Tatum is a 25 year old dude in his prime playing 36mpg. Brown is at 34mpg. Horford rests all the time. Porzingis is not playing back to backs basically with a make believe calf complaint at this point (it was really initially).

Nobody is playing heavy minutes. We have an easier schedule from here onwards so there should be numerous blow outs where we can sit guys entire quarters.

We didn’t lose last season because of fatigue either.

Obviously, we are in disagreement.
But don't discount others positions.

There's a faction here that are Happy with the Way that Mazzulla played the Players.
And then there's a faction that wants Joe Gone.

That's it.
Let's All Agree to Disagree.

We All Still Want The Celtics To Win Banner 18.

If people want Mazzulla gone on the basis of players being fatigued against an elite team on the second night of a back to back then I don’t know what to say.

I would have thought the people complaining about Mazzulla are more focused on his timeouts, emphasis on 3s etc. Haven’t heard much complaining about minutes at all.

If they do want him out on the basis of overplaying starters or not giving the bench enough burn then that’s a pretty bizarre one.

Horford, Pritchard and Hauser are the only 3 guys is be comfortable with seeing minutes in a playoff series. And it’s not like Mazzulla is pulling a Thibs and playing Tatum etc 42 minutes every game.

We have a pretty **** bench and Brad is on record saying he wants to add another wing.

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

[GoCeltics123]

Parl they won the Minnesota game. Saying they should play the bench more and lose both games as opposed to one is a dumb take lol

[Parliament10]

Hey guys instead of focusing on winning & building chemistry between the players that are going to get minutes in the playoffs, let’s put out a bunch of end of bench guys that won’t get any playoff minutes thus risking losing games & the top seed. What a great **** idea !

If your main focus right now is to keep the top seed, you give yourself the best possible chance to rest players at the end of the season so your fresh for the playoffs.

It’s not rocket science fellas ..

What are you saying?
Sounds like you're trying to clown people who have a different opinion that yours?

[Sweet Serenity]

Obviously, we are in disagreement.
But don't discount others positions.

There's a faction here that are Happy with the Way that Mazzulla played the Players.
And then there's a faction that wants Joe Gone.

That's it.
Let's All Agree to Disagree.

We All Still Want The Celtics To Win Banner 18.

If people want Mazzulla gone on the basis of players being fatigued against an elite team on the second night of a back to back then I don’t know what to say.

I would have thought the people complaining about Mazzulla are more focused on his timeouts, emphasis on 3s etc. Haven’t heard much complaining about minutes at all.

If they do want him out on the basis of overplaying starters or not giving the bench enough burn then that’s a pretty bizarre one.

Horford, Pritchard and Hauser are the only 3 guys is be comfortable with seeing minutes in a playoff series. And it’s not like Mazzulla is pulling a Thibs and playing Tatum etc 42 minutes every game.

We have a pretty **** bench and Brad is on record saying he wants to add another wing.

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

Name one contender that regularly plays all 14 guys

[Romeiro Celtic]

Parl they won the Minnesota game. Saying they should play the bench more and lose both games as opposed to one is a dumb take lol

Except that he never said that. What he said is that keep the starters playing like they have will lead to burn out come playoff time or even possibly stress injuries. You should know better than what you just typed.

[Parliament10]

Parl they won the Minnesota game. Saying they should play the bench more and lose both games as opposed to one is a dumb take lol

I didn't say that.
I think that you can play both Games, with a chance to Win.

Where does it say, that you have to lose one game or the other?
That's all I'm saying.

But others have additional points. And they are not necessarily wrong, either.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Obviously, we are in disagreement.
But don't discount others positions.

There's a faction here that are Happy with the Way that Mazzulla played the Players.
And then there's a faction that wants Joe Gone.

That's it.
Let's All Agree to Disagree.

We All Still Want The Celtics To Win Banner 18.

If people want Mazzulla gone on the basis of players being fatigued against an elite team on the second night of a back to back then I don’t know what to say.

I would have thought the people complaining about Mazzulla are more focused on his timeouts, emphasis on 3s etc. Haven’t heard much complaining about minutes at all.

If they do want him out on the basis of overplaying starters or not giving the bench enough burn then that’s a pretty bizarre one.

Horford, Pritchard and Hauser are the only 3 guys is be comfortable with seeing minutes in a playoff series. And it’s not like Mazzulla is pulling a Thibs and playing Tatum etc 42 minutes every game.

We have a pretty **** bench and Brad is on record saying he wants to add another wing.

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying.

It is bizarre to want the bench to play more when the starters haven’t even been playing that many minutes.

Mazzulla plays the bench guys worthy of playing and that’s it.

As it stands the other guys are pretty much just filling out a roster. They are there for when guys get injured. That’s the reality of a bench on a contending team. Occasionally you get a team with ridiculous depth like the 2016 Warriors whose bench would extend leads but it’s rare.

If we’re lucky we may get a savvy vet or two to fill out the bench like we did in 2008.

[Parliament10]

If people want Mazzulla gone on the basis of players being fatigued against an elite team on the second night of a back to back then I don’t know what to say.

I would have thought the people complaining about Mazzulla are more focused on his timeouts, emphasis on 3s etc. Haven’t heard much complaining about minutes at all.

If they do want him out on the basis of overplaying starters or not giving the bench enough burn then that’s a pretty bizarre one.

Horford, Pritchard and Hauser are the only 3 guys is be comfortable with seeing minutes in a playoff series. And it’s not like Mazzulla is pulling a Thibs and playing Tatum etc 42 minutes every game.

We have a pretty **** bench and Brad is on record saying he wants to add another wing.

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

Name one contender that regularly plays all 14 guys

Now you're grasping at straws.
Come on. Stop the Clowning.

You sound like MagicBagley18.

[Romeiro Celtic]

Spoiler:

If people want Mazzulla gone on the basis of players being fatigued against an elite team on the second night of a back to back then I don’t know what to say.

I would have thought the people complaining about Mazzulla are more focused on his timeouts, emphasis on 3s etc. Haven’t heard much complaining about minutes at all.

If they do want him out on the basis of overplaying starters or not giving the bench enough burn then that’s a pretty bizarre one.

Horford, Pritchard and Hauser are the only 3 guys is be comfortable with seeing minutes in a playoff series. And it’s not like Mazzulla is pulling a Thibs and playing Tatum etc 42 minutes every game.

We have a pretty **** bench and Brad is on record saying he wants to add another wing.

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

Name one contender that regularly plays all 14 guys

Bruh. This is not about playing all 14 guys regularly. It's about minute management for the starters and consistency for players who have been playing well. Give more opportunities. Who's gonna play when KP is out and Al is tired? Kornet is gonna play the 48 minutes?

[GrandTheftRondo]

Parl they won the Minnesota game. Saying they should play the bench more and lose both games as opposed to one is a dumb take lol

Except that he never said that. What he said is that keep the starters playing like they have will lead to burn out come playoff time or even possibly stress injuries. You should know better than what you just typed.

The starters aren’t even playing high minutes…..

That’s the point.

We are arguing over something that isn’t even happening.

[Sweet Serenity]

This argument is ridiculous.
If we ended up playing the likes of Svi, Stevens & Banton 10-15 minutes last night to have the starters fresher tonight but lost both games would those same posters still be fine that we played Svi, Stevens & Banton instead of putting ourselves in the best possible chance to win last night ?

[BK_2020]

Just sit the starters every night and let Banton and Svi carry us to the playoffs. Then our starters who will have the freshest legs in the league can dominate.

[Parliament10]

If people want Mazzulla gone on the basis of players being fatigued against an elite team on the second night of a back to back then I don’t know what to say.

I would have thought the people complaining about Mazzulla are more focused on his timeouts, emphasis on 3s etc. Haven’t heard much complaining about minutes at all.

If they do want him out on the basis of overplaying starters or not giving the bench enough burn then that’s a pretty bizarre one.

Horford, Pritchard and Hauser are the only 3 guys is be comfortable with seeing minutes in a playoff series. And it’s not like Mazzulla is pulling a Thibs and playing Tatum etc 42 minutes every game.

We have a pretty **** bench and Brad is on record saying he wants to add another wing.

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying.

It is bizarre to want the bench to play more when the starters haven’t even been playing that many minutes.

Mazzulla plays the bench guys worthy of playing and that’s it.

As it stands the other guys are pretty much just filling out a roster. They are there for when guys get injured. That’s the reality of a bench on a contending team. Occasionally you get a team with ridiculous depth like the 2016 Warriors whose bench would extend leads but it’s rare.

If we’re lucky we may get a savvy vet or two to fill out the bench like we did in 2008.

I understand your point.
I just disagree with it.

I actually think that we have a pretty capable Bench.
Deep Bench isn't so bad as to be unplayable, either.

I wouldn't play the Deep Bench in the Playoffs.
But, right now, it's not even Halfway through the Regular Season.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Parl they won the Minnesota game. Saying they should play the bench more and lose both games as opposed to one is a dumb take lol

I didn't say that.
I think that you can play both Games, with a chance to Win.

Where does it say, that you have to lose one game or the other?
That's all I'm saying.

But others have additional points. And they are not necessarily wrong, either.

How?

Just on basic +- numbers Hauser and Brissett were significantly worse than a few of our starters.

How do we stay in that game if we kept Brown, Tatum etc benched another 5 minutes or so each in regulation?

The only bench guy with okay counting stats was Kornet and he was getting targeted relentlessly defensively, I couldn’t wait for him to get off the court.

[Parliament10]

Parl they won the Minnesota game. Saying they should play the bench more and lose both games as opposed to one is a dumb take lol

Except that he never said that. What he said is that keep the starters playing like they have will lead to burn out come playoff time or even possibly stress injuries. You should know better than what you just typed.

The starters aren’t even playing high minutes…..

That’s the point.

We are arguing over something that isn’t even happening.

IDk about that.
Many feel that the Starters are, in fact, playing too much.

They clearly played too much on Wednesday?

[GrandTheftRondo]

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying.

It is bizarre to want the bench to play more when the starters haven’t even been playing that many minutes.

Mazzulla plays the bench guys worthy of playing and that’s it.

As it stands the other guys are pretty much just filling out a roster. They are there for when guys get injured. That’s the reality of a bench on a contending team. Occasionally you get a team with ridiculous depth like the 2016 Warriors whose bench would extend leads but it’s rare.

If we’re lucky we may get a savvy vet or two to fill out the bench like we did in 2008.

I understand your point.
I just disagree with it.

I actually think that we have a pretty capable Bench.
Deep Bench isn't so bad as to be unplayable, either.

I wouldn't play the Deep Bench in the Playoffs.
But, right now, it's not even Halfway through the Regular Season.

Who is capable on the bench?

As I said we have easy games coming up and the starters will get rest then. There is zero wrong with playing your starters a lot against a contending team. Have to test yourselves in the season.

[Parliament10]

Parl they won the Minnesota game. Saying they should play the bench more and lose both games as opposed to one is a dumb take lol

I didn't say that.
I think that you can play both Games, with a chance to Win.

Where does it say, that you have to lose one game or the other?
That's all I'm saying.

But others have additional points. And they are not necessarily wrong, either.

How?

Just on basic +- numbers Hauser and Brissett were significantly worse than a few of our starters.

How do we stay in that game if we kept Brown, Tatum etc benched another 5 minutes or so each in regulation?

The only bench guy with okay counting stats was Kornet and he was getting targeted relentlessly defensively, I couldn’t wait for him to get off the court.

I hear ya.

[Sweet Serenity]

You're putting words in my mouth.
Play the Bench more, is part of the Point, that some are making.

And it is in no way "bizarre" to want the Bench players to play.
Why are there 14 Players on the Team, and 3 more Two-Way Players?

They are supposed to play. Right?

Name one contender that regularly plays all 14 guys

Now you're grasping at straws.
Come on. Stop the Clowning.

You sound like MagicBagley18.

Then why bring up teams having 14 players to prove you’re point ?

[GrandTheftRondo]

Except that he never said that. What he said is that keep the starters playing like they have will lead to burn out come playoff time or even possibly stress injuries. You should know better than what you just typed.

The starters aren’t even playing high minutes…..

That’s the point.

We are arguing over something that isn’t even happening.

IDk about that.
Many feel that the Starters are, in fact, playing too much.

They clearly played too much on Wednesday?

It’s not about how people feel.

It’s about the numbers.

Tatum is at 36mpg. Everyone else is at 34 and below which is in line with everyone else’s starters.

High is Tyrese Maxey playing 37mpg on a Sixers team routinely blowing out opponents.