Joe Mazzulla Thread, Head Coach – (Contract Extension)

[Setshot33]

You fire Joe because he never had a Plan B. In any game he coached.

[Fierce1]

Ask Tatum and JB if they want Joe fired.

If not then Joe will just do a Triple H and tell you guys to "Suck it!"

[Setshot33]

If your the GM, you make sure their input isn't necessary.

[redslastlaugh]

With JT set to miss the year next year, why would they fire Joe?
I just do not think that's going to be in the cards.
Joe Mazzulla is almost certainly the coach on opening night imo

[zoyathedestroya]

Joe has an opportunity to craft a JT-less offense next season. Brad’s not reactionary like fans so he’s not gonna just replace his coach after a postseason that ended prematurely due to JT injury. BUT the Celtics going down 0-3 incl two at home in 2023 and 1-3 incl two at home this postseason when they’re heavily favored in both series is a red flag.

[ThePigeon]

Joe has an opportunity to craft a JT-less offense next season. Brad’s not reactionary like fans so he’s not gonna just replace his coach after a postseason that ended prematurely due to JT injury. BUT the Celtics going down 0-3 incl two at home in 2023 and 1-3 incl two at home this postseason when they’re heavily favored in both series is a red flag.

We didn't lose because of JT's injury. But this will obviously be the narrative
We lost two rounds of playoff to lesser teams, having home court advantage (MIA and NY), while having the most talented team ever

Injuries, banged up players etc are just excuses. Rigid, unimaginative coach, no player development whatsoever (PP was forced to play because of injuries, not as a plan, same for Kornet), no athleticism in team build and no plan B if the 3s don't fall

Thanks for the championship but we need some changes. Start with a new scheme and getting more athletic players. Maybe add 2-3 player development coaches

[jonige94]

Joe has an opportunity to craft a JT-less offense next season. Brad’s not reactionary like fans so he’s not gonna just replace his coach after a postseason that ended prematurely due to JT injury. BUT the Celtics going down 0-3 incl two at home in 2023 and 1-3 incl two at home this postseason when they’re heavily favored in both series is a red flag.

Joe has already shown he can't craft an offense, I think its pretty obvious he's a mediocre coach, and if Brad doesn't fire him it shows me he's a pretty mediocre GM as well.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Joe has an opportunity to craft a JT-less offense next season. Brad’s not reactionary like fans so he’s not gonna just replace his coach after a postseason that ended prematurely due to JT injury. BUT the Celtics going down 0-3 incl two at home in 2023 and 1-3 incl two at home this postseason when they’re heavily favored in both series is a red flag.

Joe has already shown he can't craft an offense, I think its pretty obvious he's a mediocre coach, and if Brad doesn't fire him it shows me he's a pretty mediocre GM as well.

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the regular season
2022/2023 117.3 offensive rating (2nd in the league)
2023/2024 122.2 offensive rating (1st in the league, highest all time)
2024/2025 119.5 offensive rating (2nd in the league)

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the playoffs
2022/2023 116.1 offensive rating (3rd in the league)
2023/2024 116.8 offensive rating (4th in the league)
2024/2025 114.4 offensive rating (5th in the league)

But, but he only does it because of the talent on the team. Funny because with the same roster that Mazzulla had in 2023, Udoka in 2022 could only manage a 113.6 offensive rating (9th in the league) in the regular season and a 110.3 offensive rating in the playoffs (9th in the league).

Can't craft an offense though

If you are going to ask for someone to be fired you should at least base your criticism of their performance in reality.

[jonige94]

Joe has an opportunity to craft a JT-less offense next season. Brad’s not reactionary like fans so he’s not gonna just replace his coach after a postseason that ended prematurely due to JT injury. BUT the Celtics going down 0-3 incl two at home in 2023 and 1-3 incl two at home this postseason when they’re heavily favored in both series is a red flag.

Joe has already shown he can't craft an offense, I think its pretty obvious he's a mediocre coach, and if Brad doesn't fire him it shows me he's a pretty mediocre GM as well.

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the regular season
2022/2023 117.3 offensive rating (2nd in the league)
2023/2024 122.2 offensive rating (1st in the league, highest all time)
2024/2025 119.5 offensive rating (2nd in the league)

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the playoffs
2022/2023 116.1 offensive rating (3rd in the league)
2023/2024 116.8 offensive rating (4th in the league)
2024/2025 114.4 offensive rating (5th in the league)

But, but he only does it because of the talent on the team. Funny because with the same roster that Mazzulla had in 2023, Udoka in 2022 could only manage a 113.6 offensive rating (9th in the league) in the regular season and a 110.3 offensive rating in the playoffs (9th in the league).

Can't craft an offense though

If you are going to ask for someone to be fired you should at least base your criticism of their performance in reality.

So you watch the team play offensively with constant iso ball, chucking 3's and getting beat by mediocre teams and you're satisfied with it?

I dont care what the analytics say, my eyes and the results are enough and im pretty sure if last season we didnt get lucky with the injuries our opponents had we wouldnt have won because of the guy we have on the bench.

[brackdan70]

As my daughter used to say when she first learned to speak and wa steady to move on to something new “done,done,done!”

[The Corey's]

Joe has already shown he can't craft an offense, I think its pretty obvious he's a mediocre coach, and if Brad doesn't fire him it shows me he's a pretty mediocre GM as well.

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the regular season
2022/2023 117.3 offensive rating (2nd in the league)
2023/2024 122.2 offensive rating (1st in the league, highest all time)
2024/2025 119.5 offensive rating (2nd in the league)

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the playoffs
2022/2023 116.1 offensive rating (3rd in the league)
2023/2024 116.8 offensive rating (4th in the league)
2024/2025 114.4 offensive rating (5th in the league)

But, but he only does it because of the talent on the team. Funny because with the same roster that Mazzulla had in 2023, Udoka in 2022 could only manage a 113.6 offensive rating (9th in the league) in the regular season and a 110.3 offensive rating in the playoffs (9th in the league).

Can't craft an offense though

If you are going to ask for someone to be fired you should at least base your criticism of their performance in reality.

So you watch the team play offensively with constant iso ball, chucking 3's and getting beat by mediocre teams and you're satisfied with it?

I dont care what the analytics say, my eyes and the results are enough and im pretty sure if last season we didnt get lucky with the injuries our opponents had we wouldnt have won because of the guy we have on the bench.

None of these Joe supporters are able to articulate how it's Joe who has them playing so "effectively" vs the fact that he's had the NBA championship favorite in all 3 of his seasons.

Color me surprised that when you have the best NBA roster year in and out what your numbers look so good. Shocked I tell you.

[ThePigeon]

Joe has an opportunity to craft a JT-less offense next season. Brad’s not reactionary like fans so he’s not gonna just replace his coach after a postseason that ended prematurely due to JT injury. BUT the Celtics going down 0-3 incl two at home in 2023 and 1-3 incl two at home this postseason when they’re heavily favored in both series is a red flag.

Joe has already shown he can't craft an offense, I think its pretty obvious he's a mediocre coach, and if Brad doesn't fire him it shows me he's a pretty mediocre GM as well.

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the regular season
2022/2023 117.3 offensive rating (2nd in the league)
2023/2024 122.2 offensive rating (1st in the league, highest all time)
2024/2025 119.5 offensive rating (2nd in the league)

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the playoffs
2022/2023 116.1 offensive rating (3rd in the league)
2023/2024 116.8 offensive rating (4th in the league)
2024/2025 114.4 offensive rating (5th in the league)

But, but he only does it because of the talent on the team. Funny because with the same roster that Mazzulla had in 2023, Udoka in 2022 could only manage a 113.6 offensive rating (9th in the league) in the regular season and a 110.3 offensive rating in the playoffs (9th in the league).

Can't craft an offense though

If you are going to ask for someone to be fired you should at least base your criticism of their performance in reality.

Stats don't tell the whole story in the playoff as the games are different and the sample size is smaller
Having the favorite team to win it all for 3 years and losing to a far inferior team TWICE while having home court advantage. That is the story
Having 20 points leads at home and still manage to lose. End of game execution, out of time out execution, no plan B on offense except contested isos, not developing or trusting players etc

If it is on the players than maybe he isn't a commanding enough presence

Something is broken and needs to be fixed

[Smart2Nesmith43]

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the regular season
2022/2023 117.3 offensive rating (2nd in the league)
2023/2024 122.2 offensive rating (1st in the league, highest all time)
2024/2025 119.5 offensive rating (2nd in the league)

The Celtics under Mazzulla in the playoffs
2022/2023 116.1 offensive rating (3rd in the league)
2023/2024 116.8 offensive rating (4th in the league)
2024/2025 114.4 offensive rating (5th in the league)

But, but he only does it because of the talent on the team. Funny because with the same roster that Mazzulla had in 2023, Udoka in 2022 could only manage a 113.6 offensive rating (9th in the league) in the regular season and a 110.3 offensive rating in the playoffs (9th in the league).

Can't craft an offense though

If you are going to ask for someone to be fired you should at least base your criticism of their performance in reality.

So you watch the team play offensively with constant iso ball, chucking 3's and getting beat by mediocre teams and you're satisfied with it?

I dont care what the analytics say, my eyes and the results are enough and im pretty sure if last season we didnt get lucky with the injuries our opponents had we wouldnt have won because of the guy we have on the bench.

None of these Joe supporters are able to articulate how it's Joe who has them playing so "effectively" vs the fact that he's had the NBA championship favorite in all 3 of his seasons.

Color me surprised that when you have the best NBA roster year in and out what your numbers look so good. Shocked I tell you.

It's actually the opposite. It's the people that want Joe fired that are like "Bro trust me I know what I'm taking about". Then I offer some numbers that go against that position and people are like "You are wrong I have eyes." What a compelling argument, I'm convinced let's fire Budenholzer to hire Griffin instead that'll solve all the Celtics' problems.

[The Corey's]

So you watch the team play offensively with constant iso ball, chucking 3's and getting beat by mediocre teams and you're satisfied with it?

I dont care what the analytics say, my eyes and the results are enough and im pretty sure if last season we didnt get lucky with the injuries our opponents had we wouldnt have won because of the guy we have on the bench.

None of these Joe supporters are able to articulate how it's Joe who has them playing so "effectively" vs the fact that he's had the NBA championship favorite in all 3 of his seasons.

Color me surprised that when you have the best NBA roster year in and out what your numbers look so good. Shocked I tell you.

It's actually the opposite. It's the people that want Joe fired that are like "Bro trust me I know what I'm taking about". Then I offer some numbers that go against that position and people are like "You are wrong I have eyes." What a compelling argument, I'm convinced let's fire Budenholzer to hire Griffin instead that'll solve all the Celtics' problems.

It's not the opposite. You're acting like this man with the the best roster in the league every year if his career somehow managed to milk something out of them that no one else has.

2 out of 3 playoffs he flamed out in spectacular fashion. That's my proof. That's the stat you're looking for. You're just ignoring it.

[redslastlaugh]

John Zannis on CLNS Garden Report last night said that he believes (not sure but thinks) that Joe is going into the last season of his 3 yr deal. And that he's unlikely to go into the season as a lame duck coach.

This means his agent will come to Brad and request a pay raise and extension this summer. If the team isn't going to extend him, then the move would be to fire him this summer and find a new coach rather than refuse to extend him and just let him coach out his final year and walk. That this the custom in the NBA with coaches who've had success, either commit to them or give them the courtesy of releasing them that they find a new team that will make a long term commitment

The panel on Garden Report thought that between the two options: release Joe or extend Joe, that Joe would get a new contract this summer to continue as Celtics coach.

If Joe got another 3 yr extension, he'd be signed as Celtics coach for the next 4 yrs.

[tfmiii]

John Zannis on CLNS Garden Report last night said that he believes (not sure but thinks) that Joe is going into the last season of his 3 yr deal. And that he's unlikely to go into the season as a lame duck coach.

This means his agent will come to Brad and request a pay raise and extension this summer. If the team isn't going to extend him, then the move would be to fire him this summer and find a new coach rather than refuse to extend him and just let him coach out his final year and walk. That this the custom in the NBA with coaches who've had success, either commit to them or give them the courtesy of releasing them that they find a new team that will make a long term commitment

The panel on Garden Report thought that between the two options: release Joe or extend Joe, that Joe would get a new contract this summer to continue as Celtics coach.

If Joe got another 3 yr extension, he'd be signed as Celtics coach for the next 4 yrs.

God plz no

[phincsfan]

If they move on from Joe hopefully it’s before the draft so the new coach has input in the selection.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Just let him go for God’s sake. Bring Taylor Jenkins or Michael Malone in.

[Fierce1]

And if Joe remains coach of the Cs?

[redslastlaugh]

This is a big decision for Brad Stevens.
I don't think Brad should bring Joe back.
There are lots of options this summer that make more sense.

I don't want Michael Malone. Not interested. Taylor Jenkins would be good. Jeff Van Gundy would be good as well.
Afer the last several coaches were first time NBA coaches, I'd go the other way and look for a coach who has been around the block a few times.
I'd love JVG, I think he'd be awesome.

Just let him go for God’s sake. Bring Taylor Jenkins or Michael Malone in.