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youngthegiant wrote:Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Tyler Zeller and Jaylen Brown??? Close???or nah???
youngthegiant wrote:Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Tyler Zeller and Jaylen Brown??? Close???or nah???
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Trade Rozier and a pick for Nurkic. Sign Hayward. Then you have Nurkic, Horford, Hayward, AB, IT, Crowder, Brown, Smart, Fultz. I suspect Crowder gets moved though...
SmartWentCrazy wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Trade Rozier and a pick for Nurkic. Sign Hayward. Then you have Nurkic, Horford, Hayward, AB, IT, Crowder, Brown, Smart, Fultz. I suspect Crowder gets moved though...
Denver fans value Nurkic way more than that. One on the trade board argued that Nurkic was worth more than the BKN18 pick. Their very wrong about him, but that's their prerogative.
Captain_Caveman wrote:SmartWentCrazy wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Trade Rozier and a pick for Nurkic. Sign Hayward. Then you have Nurkic, Horford, Hayward, AB, IT, Crowder, Brown, Smart, Fultz. I suspect Crowder gets moved though...
Denver fans value Nurkic way more than that. One on the trade board argued that Nurkic was worth more than the BKN18 pick. Their very wrong about him, but that's their prerogative.
They don't get it and never will. Nuggets are in one of the worst situations of any team in the league. With role playing, cap-clogging vets, and 4th tier young prospects, they are on track to be in 20th place from now until the end of time.
SmartWentCrazy wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Trade Rozier and a pick for Nurkic. Sign Hayward. Then you have Nurkic, Horford, Hayward, AB, IT, Crowder, Brown, Smart, Fultz. I suspect Crowder gets moved though...
Denver fans value Nurkic way more than that. One on the trade board argued that Nurkic was worth more than the BKN18 pick. Their very wrong about him, but that's their prerogative.
CelticFaninLBC wrote:SmartWentCrazy wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Trade Rozier and a pick for Nurkic. Sign Hayward. Then you have Nurkic, Horford, Hayward, AB, IT, Crowder, Brown, Smart, Fultz. I suspect Crowder gets moved though...
Denver fans value Nurkic way more than that. One on the trade board argued that Nurkic was worth more than the BKN18 pick. Their very wrong about him, but that's their prerogative.
No fan base has a higher opinion of their players than Denver fans.
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truth18 wrote:youngthegiant wrote:Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Tyler Zeller and Jaylen Brown??? Close???or nah???
What?
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
KGboss wrote:Banks2Pierce wrote:Gant wrote:Detroit is 18-24 and has an "Untouchable List?" Guffaw. in this situation at 18-24 everybody should be touchable.
If the Pistons continue to plummet, how long before super-humorous Stan calls Danny and says he'd be reluctantly willing to deal from the "Untouchable List" for a certain Brooklyn based asset?
No one on their roster is worth the 2017 or 2018 BKN pick.
Drummond is.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Give Denver Brad Stevens and they're above .500.
Nurkic is comparable to Smart in defensive/offensive stats, but he's not being well-developed. Mudiay and Murray are as good as any young player in our pipeline, in terms of raw ability and upside. And Jokic is very good.
Like, a lot depends on context, system, role, usage, development.
I don't understand why Denver hasn't done a full rebuild (Gallo, Faried, Chandler out) when they're losing so much anyway. But their young players are all solid - if Murray, Mudiay or Jokic were in Boston you'd all be hyping the sh*t out of them, or hyping their trade value.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
Boston34Bg wrote:Andrew McCeltic wrote:Give Denver Brad Stevens and they're above .500.
Nurkic is comparable to Smart in defensive/offensive stats, but he's not being well-developed. Mudiay and Murray are as good as any young player in our pipeline, in terms of raw ability and upside. And Jokic is very good.
Like, a lot depends on context, system, role, usage, development.
I don't understand why Denver hasn't done a full rebuild (Gallo, Faried, Chandler out) when they're losing so much anyway. But their young players are all solid - if Murray, Mudiay or Jokic were in Boston you'd all be hyping the sh*t out of them, or hyping their trade value.
That's one thing I have been wondering about for a while. I'm not saying they need to trade with us or anything. Just saying that they should've traded Gallinari/Chandler and Farried for some asstets. The past 2 years they have been winning meaningless games- worsening their draft position. Their FO is full of ****.
Captain_Caveman wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Denver fans value Nurkic way more than that. One on the trade board argued that Nurkic was worth more than the BKN18 pick. Their very wrong about him, but that's their prerogative.
No fan base has a higher opinion of their players than Denver fans.
Up there with Knick fans in their levels of unfounded homerism.
SmartWentCrazy wrote:youngthegiant wrote:Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Tyler Zeller and Jaylen Brown??? Close???or nah???
Not close. We don't value Nurkic remotely similar to how you do, and Gallo is an FA in 40 games. Strong pass.
Boston wants to trade for stars, not just 'good' players. We're not going to trade one of our three best assets for another 'good' player that makes us no more competitive with Toronto, let alone Cleveland or Golden State.
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Two years ago Lawson may have had *more* trade value than Giannis..
peachbucket wrote:SmartWentCrazy wrote:youngthegiant wrote:Danilo Gallinari, Jusuf Nurkic for Tyler Zeller and Jaylen Brown??? Close???or nah???
Not close. We don't value Nurkic remotely similar to how you do, and Gallo is an FA in 40 games. Strong pass.
Boston wants to trade for stars, not just 'good' players. We're not going to trade one of our three best assets for another 'good' player that makes us no more competitive with Toronto, let alone Cleveland or Golden State.
What's really troubling with Nurkic is his lack of improvement. Notably, his ft % has gone from .636 to .616 to a low of .524 this year. Similarly his block and steal rate has dropped while turnovers have gone up every year. Based on this it seems that he is not a hard worker which is probably why Denver wants to get rid of him. Also, it doesn't make sense to spend any assets on him when we have an better player in Zizic coming in next year who has been lauded for his competitiveness and work ethic.