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Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#801 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:32 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:How much better is Harrell than prime Kenneth Faried?

I'd say we have a better shot at Clint Capela, something like Kanter/Langford/Wanamaker (has to agree to a deal)/Javonte/1st - and that we could probably be negotiated up to include Grant Williams and/or Carsen..

Robert Williams will be better than Clint Capela next year. You would give up four draft picks (three rookie and a first), to marginally improve the C position (maybe)? What do you do in the final five minutes of basketball games where Capela is unplayable?


I wouldn’t make that deal, I’m just telling you what I think the price would be..
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#805 » by NYG » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:45 am

Celtics choice of Theis or Kanter
Langford
Poirier
Earlier of Celtics/Bucks 2020 1st

for

Capela

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Post#806 » by The Corey's » Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:15 am

Is anyone surprised to learn Danny isnt willing to move on with any of the core players?

This the same guy who didnt move Horford and Irving when he should of known that one of them was certainly leaving.
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Post#807 » by 100proof » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:26 pm

Playing with the trade checker

Chicago trades:
Zach Lavine, Felicio and Wendel Carter
gets:
Hayward, Poirier, Minny first, Detroit first, boston first

Detroit trades:
Griffin, First rounder
gets
Teague, Grant Williams, Enes Kanter, Felicio and Graham

Minny trades
Graham, Teague and Covington
gets
Lavine

Boston trades
Hayward, Grant Williams, Enes Kanter, Vincent Poirier
gets
Wendell Carter, Griffin, Wood, Covington

Chicago adds alot of picks and builds around Laurie, hayward keeps them competetive.
Detroit retools
Minny adds a big wing upgrade
Boston restructures, adds youth and a star and has arguably the best and deepest top 10 in the league.

Kemba/Wannamaker
Brown/Smart
Tatum/Covington
Griffin/wood
Carter JR/Theis

Edwards/Waters/Langford/Timelord/Tacko, Bucks pick and Memphis pick sitting as future assets still.
Griffing become more tradeable next season if team no longer wants him, or thinks they dont need him.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#808 » by VeryMuchWoke » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:41 pm

This would never happen and may not be possible because of the hard cap, but what would people think of this:

Hayward to GS, DLo and 2020 1st (unprotected) to Boston.

Why? DLo and the pick fits the Tatum/Brown timeline, we will need some luck to get championships with this rebuild and the pick gives us a good deal of variance. Maybe a Wiseman/Tatum/Brown trio could get it done if Wiseman becomes a high level player. DLo isn't very good and not worth his contract, but the pick offsets that, and DLo is only 23 and may improve. I'd be worried Hayward may start winning them games.

Why for GS? Hayward would be fantastic with Curry/Klay/Draymond and put GS back in the title picture next year.

I don't think Ainge wants to trade Hayward, and I don't think GS would say yes to this (because of the player option), but I imagine people here wouldn't approve either, so I wanted to get the boards thoughts.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#809 » by Wes-J » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:31 pm

No Hayward trades.

But I'm starting to come around on the idea of trading for Cauley-Stein. Kanter won't be much use in the playoffs.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#810 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:33 pm

Wes-J wrote:No Hayward trades.

But I'm starting to come around on the idea of trading for Cauley-Stein. Kanter won't be much use in the playoffs.

Isn't WCS a terrible rebounder though?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#811 » by Wes-J » Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:34 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Wes-J wrote:No Hayward trades.

But I'm starting to come around on the idea of trading for Cauley-Stein. Kanter won't be much use in the playoffs.

Isn't WCS a terrible rebounder though?


No I wouldn't say he's terrible at a career 6.4/23mpg clip but nothing great but defense is legit when inspired.

Would be curious to see how he contributes in a win now culture. Could be had for cheap I'd do it. Don't think we're getting Baynes back.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#812 » by Gomes3PC » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:09 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Wes-J wrote:No Hayward trades.

But I'm starting to come around on the idea of trading for Cauley-Stein. Kanter won't be much use in the playoffs.

Isn't WCS a terrible rebounder though?

He rebounds at the same rate as Theis.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#813 » by 100proof » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:58 pm

Damian Jones and Kevin Huerter

for

Romeo, Poirier and both the bucks and boston picks

Atlanta adds another young player with alot of potential and adds a couple of late first. They ride out the rest of the season then make a consolidation trade.

Boston adds a young big bodied center capable of starting immediately and growing with the core. Huerter adds a shooting/scoring punch off the bench. Theis goes to bench to better offset Kanter's weaknesses.

Kemba/Wannamaker
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Huerter
Tatum/Theis
Jones/Kanter

Robert, Grant, Waters, Edwards, Tacko, Theis, Green as depth pieces
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#814 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:42 pm

The Corey's wrote:Is anyone surprised to learn Danny isnt willing to move on with any of the core players?

This the same guy who didnt move Horford and Irving when he should of known that one of them was certainly leaving.

Thank the heavens that he knows what he's doing or the Celtics roster would have Steven Adams, Nikola Vucevic and Kevin Love on it right now.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#815 » by Roddy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:49 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:
The Corey's wrote:Is anyone surprised to learn Danny isnt willing to move on with any of the core players?

This the same guy who didnt move Horford and Irving when he should of known that one of them was certainly leaving.

Thank the heavens that he knows what he's doing or the Celtics roster would have Steven Adams, Nikola Vucevic and Kevin Love on it right now.


Danny one month ago about last season :

“I think that in hindsight, we should have cleaned out the roster a little bit to make it easier for [coach] Brad [Stevens], more joy for him to coach,” Ainge said.

Ultimately, Ainge said he refrained from trading any players last season because, after an uneven start, the team entered the All-Star break 37-21.

“So that’s why I didn’t do any deals, but in hindsight, you know, I would,” Ainge told ESPN. Going forward, Ainge said he would be “a little bit more careful … building another team that had such equal depth.”
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#816 » by The Corey's » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:54 pm

Roddy wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:
The Corey's wrote:Is anyone surprised to learn Danny isnt willing to move on with any of the core players?

This the same guy who didnt move Horford and Irving when he should of known that one of them was certainly leaving.

Thank the heavens that he knows what he's doing or the Celtics roster would have Steven Adams, Nikola Vucevic and Kevin Love on it right now.


Danny one month ago about last season :

“I think that in hindsight, we should have cleaned out the roster a little bit to make it easier for [coach] Brad [Stevens], more joy for him to coach,” Ainge said.

Ultimately, Ainge said he refrained from trading any players last season because, after an uneven start, the team entered the All-Star break 37-21.

“So that’s why I didn’t do any deals, but in hindsight, you know, I would,” Ainge told ESPN. Going forward, Ainge said he would be “a little bit more careful … building another team that had such equal depth.”



Danny knows what hes doing, sometimes he gets it wrong, no one bats a 1000%

I assume the previous poster was making some sort or sarcastic retort in regards to what I said that he disagreed with but whatever.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#817 » by Ernest » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:30 am

The team is doing a good job with the rookies. Not sure if they have real trade value yet, but I think they will. Williams, Edwards, Langford, Green, Waters and Fall. Thats 6 guys, statistically speaking you'd imagine 1 or 2 of them would be clear busts and another 1 or 2 would not show much. But we have 3 of them that have played a lot and we are winning. I'm not trying to say, lets go out and trade them, but just that we are smart to use the early season to develop and down the road it should pay off.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#818 » by ddb » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:37 pm



this would literally go down as the worst trade in Celtics history. hahaha. Laugh out Loud at this idea.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#819 » by ddb » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:40 pm

100proof wrote:Damian Jones and Kevin Huerter

for

Romeo, Poirier and both the bucks and boston picks

Atlanta adds another young player with alot of potential and adds a couple of late first. They ride out the rest of the season then make a consolidation trade.

Boston adds a young big bodied center capable of starting immediately and growing with the core. Huerter adds a shooting/scoring punch off the bench. Theis goes to bench to better offset Kanter's weaknesses.

Kemba/Wannamaker
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Huerter
Tatum/Theis
Jones/Kanter

Robert, Grant, Waters, Edwards, Tacko, Theis, Green as depth pieces


absolutely cannot trade Romeo Langford. lottery pick with good upside. way too early to trade him. reminds me of Avery Bradley's rookie season when everyone and their mother were throwing him in trade proposals because he was sitting at the end of the bench after being drafted in the 1st round out of Texas. Sometimes Danny drafts for the future. Romeo is 1 of those pieces. but as we're now seeing in limited action, Romeo can play. Give this kid a couple of seasons and he's going to be really good
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#820 » by ddb » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:43 pm

Wes-J wrote:No Hayward trades.

But I'm starting to come around on the idea of trading for Cauley-Stein. Kanter won't be much use in the playoffs.


Celtics are 20-7 with Hayward playing in only 11 games. Smart has missed time too. This team doesn't need to make a move right now. They can wait it out and see what the waiver wire looks like. Ideally, a veteran big man that can defend in the post and play a little bit becomes available. It's either that or a minor trade for a guy like Harry Giles where Danny wouldn't have to give up much.

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