2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

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I hear what you're saying, but to be fair a 6'7" Terry Rozier would actually be a stud in the league. Like if not all-star one of those lesser ones just below. Rozier's biggest issue only shows up in the playoffs due to his sub optimal heigh and sub 200lb weight. But you used "ceiling" there so no reason to really project someone's ceiling. That's hard to reach.

I think RJ Hampton could end up being a lot like a Boston version of Evan Turner. With a worse mid range shot but much better passing skills and higher end speed. You can probably get some second unit offense based solely off him running downhill grabbing a handoff much like we did for IT. Never let him ISO, always have him already running when he gets the ball to put the heat on the defense.

RJ is not 6'7 he is 6'3 barefoot. 6'4 in shoes.

He's 6'5" with a 6'7" wingspan...

According to whom?
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/rj-hampton/
" Hampton measured 6’3 barefoot, 6’4 in shoes, 176 lbs, with a 6’7 wingspan, and a 8’4 standing reach"

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Josh Green would be great in the early 20s. Likely won't be there at 26 but if they packaged 26 and 30 I think he could be there at 20-22.

Great defender and athlete. Shot good percentages and said he's improved his mechanics a bit. 6'6" 220 lb frame and we know Celtics like rookies that are physically ready Day 1.

[100proof]

Not a Hampton fan at all. Terry Rozier 2.0 is his ceiling IMHO..

I hear what you're saying, but to be fair a 6'7" Terry Rozier would actually be a stud in the league. Like if not all-star one of those lesser ones just below. Rozier's biggest issue only shows up in the playoffs due to his sub optimal heigh and sub 200lb weight. But you used "ceiling" there so no reason to really project someone's ceiling. That's hard to reach.

I think RJ Hampton could end up being a lot like a Boston version of Evan Turner. With a worse mid range shot but much better passing skills and higher end speed. You can probably get some second unit offense based solely off him running downhill grabbing a handoff much like we did for IT. Never let him ISO, always have him already running when he gets the ball to put the heat on the defense.

RJ is not 6'7 he is 6'3 barefoot. 6'4 in shoes.

RJ is not 6'7 he is 6'3 barefoot. 6'4 in shoes.

He's 6'5" with a 6'7" wingspan...

According to whom?
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/rj-hampton/
" Hampton measured 6’3 barefoot, 6’4 in shoes, 176 lbs, with a 6’7 wingspan, and a 8’4 standing reach"

He is listed as 6'5" on pretty much every major draft site.
NBA.com
Draft Express
Tankathon
TheStepian
basketball reference
Draft Junkies
Yahoo

Only Draftnet has him at 6'3". which was his height, IIRC, 1.5 years ago.

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Josh Green would be great in the early 20s. Likely won't be there at 26 but if they packaged 26 and 30 I think he could be there at 20-22.

Great defender and athlete. Shot good percentages and said he's improved his mechanics a bit. 6'6" 220 lb frame and we know Celtics like rookies that are physically ready Day 1.

Anothre one of those guys that could become a star.

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Josh Green would be great in the early 20s. Likely won't be there at 26 but if they packaged 26 and 30 I think he could be there at 20-22.

Great defender and athlete. Shot good percentages and said he's improved his mechanics a bit. 6'6" 220 lb frame and we know Celtics like rookies that are physically ready Day 1.

I like Green. His game resembles his namesake Green, Danny.

[captain green]

Nightmare scenario is drafting one these at 14 or 26

Theo Maledon – 6-5 – France

This kid has played against Euroleague competition and he held his own at 18 y.o.

He'll probably be the best PG in this draft class, and a rotation caliber player on a good team in 3 years.

I'd love to see him in Celtics green.

Maledon at 26/30 would be great, especially if he can be stashed for a year. A year of added strength training would be amazing. He looks like an easily great PnR guard. Good shooter, great change of pace ability, great length. He would kill with the jail play where Theis seals the paint and the guard gets his man on his back. Peep his highlights, he's maybe the shiftiest guard in this class in terms of slowing the play down and attacking at the exact right moment. He's been playing in europe for three years now, always a good FT shooter, shot looks clean, quick. He can take it off the dribble or off the catch.

Celtics absolutely need to either draft at least one euro-stash player, trade out of the draft for future picks, or trade up. Trading up in a terrible draft is the worst option to me unless you genuinely trust Ainge/Zarren to key in on a player and decide he is THE GUY. There are worse things than having a lanky PG waiting in Europe for a year. If no trades happen, I want one of Maledon, Bolmaro or N'Doye, whoever will agree to be stashed basically. Maledon first, then N'Doye, then Bolmaro if the other two won't agree to be stashed. Maledon/Bolmaro are candidates at 26/30 and N'Doye at 47. I'll leave it up to Zarren and Ainge on who can be acquired where, but if they trade up in this draft and don't **** kill it with who they pick, that's a huge misstep. I don't exactly think they're amazing talent evaluators, so why should they trade up? Just keep kicking the can down the road with the roster crunch. Draft a euro player who will agree to stay in Europe for a year or trade out of the draft with one or more of the picks.

To be fair maledon does have that potential but it would be a nightmare because if we draft and stash that means we are staying Pat and I need depth on our roster

[SmartWentCrazy]

"Not a Hampton fan at all. Terry Rozier 2.0 is his ceiling IMHO"

monthly reminder that Terry Rozier, as a 23 y/o, led us (20 y/o Jaylen and 19 y/o Tatum ) to Game 7 of the ECF. As a starter that season he put up 16-6-5 and shot 39% from three. Small sample you say? He then goes to CHA, everyone laughs at them for paying him $18 million, and puts up 18-4-4 and shot 41% from three with good defense. It's time Celtics fans who gave him crap eat crow about him. In 17 years as G.M. he's one of just a few, mid to late 1st draft picks that has panned out for Danny. His loss has been felt these past two years. So if we're taking "Terry Rozier 2.0" at #26, #30 or #47, we've hit the jackpot folks.

Yay, we agree on something.

I loved Terry. Still do. He’s prob not a championship PG but hes still a home run of a pick at 15.

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Josh Green would be great in the early 20s. Likely won't be there at 26 but if they packaged 26 and 30 I think he could be there at 20-22.

Great defender and athlete. Shot good percentages and said he's improved his mechanics a bit. 6'6" 220 lb frame and we know Celtics like rookies that are physically ready Day 1.

Anothre one of those guys that could become a star.

I don't see him becoming a star at all but think he could contribute Day 1 off the bench as a 3 and D wing. He's already physically able to play in the NBA which is huge. All he needs to do in Boston is be able to hit open threes. He's basically just an upgrade over the minutes Semi gave us and he actually has an offensive game. 6'6" 220 lb pound 20 yr old would be huge to add wing depth.

He's also an absolute problem for defenses in the open court and in transition. Picking him at 14 is a reach though. I think he'll like go anywhere from 17-25 or something along those lines so Celtics would need to trade up to get him which I would love.

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Can someone break down the difference between Time lord and Okongwu?

they seem similar to me? can these guys co-exists as a super ubber athletic 4 and 5 men?

[threrf23]

Can someone break down the difference between Time lord and Okongwu?

they seem similar to me? can these guys co-exists as a super ubber athletic 4 and 5 men?

Watching highlights, reading scouting reports, glancing at stats....Okongwu reminds me of Bam Adebayo, but seems to have a bit more upside as a defender and as a scorer.

Timelord has his strengths, but, well, you know.

[leper-con]

Can someone break down the difference between Time lord and Okongwu?

they seem similar to me? can these guys co-exists as a super ubber athletic 4 and 5 men?

Watching highlights, reading scouting reports, glancing at stats....Okongwu reminds me of Bam Adebayo, but seems to have a bit more upside as a defender and as a scorer.

Timelord has his strengths, but, well, you know.

I was hoping someone could confirm this that has seen him play. The reports I read are the same but they state he can't put it on the floor and can't pass. So, no dribble drive game and not able to facilitate offence.

[JHTruth]

Can someone break down the difference between Time lord and Okongwu?

they seem similar to me? can these guys co-exists as a super ubber athletic 4 and 5 men?

Watching highlights, reading scouting reports, glancing at stats....Okongwu reminds me of Bam Adebayo, but seems to have a bit more upside as a defender and as a scorer.

Timelord has his strengths, but, well, you know.

Okongwu is a poor man's Bam at best. Poor passer, can't come close to running the offense like Bam. Not as long, doesn't possess Bam's freakish athleticism. Bam blew the SPARQ metrics out of the water during the combine.

Anyone expecting OO to be Bam will be horribly disappointed...

[leper-con]

Can someone break down the difference between Time lord and Okongwu?

they seem similar to me? can these guys co-exists as a super ubber athletic 4 and 5 men?

Watching highlights, reading scouting reports, glancing at stats....Okongwu reminds me of Bam Adebayo, but seems to have a bit more upside as a defender and as a scorer.

Timelord has his strengths, but, well, you know.

Okongwu is a poor man's Bam at best. Poor passer, can't come close to running the offense like Bam. Not as long, doesn't possess Bam's freakish athleticism. Bam blew the SPARQ metrics out of the water during the combine.

Anyone expecting OO to be Bam will be horribly disappointed...

thanks, that's what i was looking for. I see him much like Timelord, less like Bam.

[JHTruth]

Can someone break down the difference between Time lord and Okongwu?

they seem similar to me? can these guys co-exists as a super ubber athletic 4 and 5 men?

Watching highlights, reading scouting reports, glancing at stats....Okongwu reminds me of Bam Adebayo, but seems to have a bit more upside as a defender and as a scorer.

Timelord has his strengths, but, well, you know.

I was hoping someone could confirm this that has seen him play. The reports I read are the same but they state he can't put it on the floor and can't pass. So, no dribble drive game and not able to facilitate offence.

Time Lord is a more vertically athletic and longer. Superior passer.

OO seems laterally a bit quicker although we have yet to see him against NBA competition so that's TBD. Not as much the vertical spacer but has flashed more offensive diversity, although still fairly raw on offense.

[threrf23]

I was hoping someone could confirm this that has seen him play. The reports I read are the same but they state he can't put it on the floor and can't pass. So, no dribble drive game and not able to facilitate offence.

If you are comparing Okongwu to who Adebayo is right now, sure. If you are comparing freshman years - Okongwu has the better A/TO ratio, averaged more points per game, shot a higher percentage from both the field and the line. And from everything I've read he can put it on the floor.

[snowman]

Call me crazy but Maledon’s highlights look exactly like Markelle Fultz’s did. And better than Halliburton’s. Good thing I’m a draft expert!

Random plug, too, for Paul Reed here.
S.Bey
Maledon
Oturu
Reed (traded up for higher 2nd?)
Make it happen Danny!

I agree with a lot of this. I would not draft Maledon, Not a fan. I do agree with :

Saddiq Bey @ 14

Tyler Bey @ 26.

Daniel Oturu @ 30

Guys Kanter, I now believe will opt in, and I always thought Hayward will opt in. I hope Kanter will opt out, but I don't think he will. If he does opt in, maybe we can trade hi. But for those of you thinking we have no room for 3 more rookies, YES, we will.

Green's option will not be picked up. That's 1 spot that only cost 100K guarantee to create.
Semi's option will not be picked up. That's a 2nd spot that costs up nothing to create.
Wannamaker will be allowed to leave via FA. That's a 3rd spot that costs us nothing to create.
Poirier will probably be bought out to go back to France. That's a possibility of a 4th, but that one costs us 2.6 unless we trade him to a team with an exception along with the 47th to move.

That's enough room to sign our 3 1st round draft picks, and have a slot left over to sign a vet min FA point guard. ( DJ Augustin, Jeff Teague, Evan Turner come to mind)

I can not be convinced that S. Bey, T. Bey and Oturu is not a huge upgrade over Green, Semi and Wannamaker.

[JHTruth]

I was hoping someone could confirm this that has seen him play. The reports I read are the same but they state he can't put it on the floor and can't pass. So, no dribble drive game and not able to facilitate offence.

If you are comparing Okongwu to who Adebayo is right now, sure. If you are comparing freshman years - Okongwu has the better A/TO ratio, averaged more points per game, shot a higher percentage from both the field and the line. And from everything I've read he can put it on the floor.

He's flashed it here and there. OO and Bam were used very differently in College. Bam was on a team with DeAaron Fox and Malik Monk. OO doesn't play with another NBA player. That's one of the reasons Bam fell to 14. The real reason Bam has developed so quickly is his athletic foundation. Is OO doing the combine?

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I don't hate this at all actually. Wasserman then has Celtics taking Desmond Bane at 30 which would be a great pick, although not sure he lasts that long.

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I don't hate this at all actually. Wasserman then has Celtics taking Desmond Bane at 30 which would be a great pick, although not sure he lasts that long.

I'd like it a whole lot more if it were Edwards instead of waters

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I don't hate this at all actually. Wasserman then has Celtics taking Desmond Bane at 30 which would be a great pick, although not sure he lasts that long.

I'd like it a whole lot more if it were Edwards instead of waters

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Nobody expects the Boston Celtics to walk away from the draft with three first-round rookies. "It feels like they're up to something," one scout told Bleacher Report.