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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#801 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue May 16, 2023 1:16 am

playa-hater wrote:I would really like to hear people's opinions on Scoot Henderson and/or Brandon Miller.. If Houston is really interested in trading Jalen Green and the number 2 pick As a starting point For J Brown, Boston absolutely has to listen..

And while there is a certain risk in obtaining young unproven talents.. Boston could acquire 2 young studs at a much cheaper contract for the next 10 years or so...

I am already especially high on Brandon Miller.. If we can get jalen green + Miller and another Asset or 2 for Brown, I think it's a no brainer.... Boston already has enough veterans in Derek white and Malcolm Brogdon plus smart and Tatum, They can easily overcome losing one veteran player like Brown for 2 absolute Studs.. Boston May not ever have a chance like this again...


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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#802 » by playa-hater » Tue May 16, 2023 2:55 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I would really like to hear people's opinions on Scoot Henderson and/or Brandon Miller.. If Houston is really interested in trading Jalen Green and the number 2 pick As a starting point For J Brown, Boston absolutely has to listen..

And while there is a certain risk in obtaining young unproven talents.. Boston could acquire 2 young studs at a much cheaper contract for the next 10 years or so...

I am already especially high on Brandon Miller.. If we can get jalen green + Miller and another Asset or 2 for Brown, I think it's a no brainer.... Boston already has enough veterans in Derek white and Malcolm Brogdon plus smart and Tatum, They can easily overcome losing one veteran player like Brown for 2 absolute Studs.. Boston May not ever have a chance like this again...


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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#803 » by playa-hater » Tue May 16, 2023 3:05 am

Another player I'm starting to look at But not expecting to fall into the 2nd round is Jett Howard..

I Think he is a very smooth shooter, He is pretty fundamentally sound thanks to his father.. Still relatively young and has a strong 6' 8 frame.. And while the knock on him is his lack of defensive ability, I think it can be overcome in the same way Sam Hauser was not considered a good defender but anticipates well.

I love to have spacers for our team especially with Tatum on it..
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#804 » by playa-hater » Tue May 16, 2023 3:19 am

snowman wrote:With the 2nd round pick in this draft, I want the Celts to pick Jalen Wilson from Kansas. I think he will be a good back up behind Tatum and Brown, very athletic, and a decent 3-point shooter. His percentage is 33%, but if you look at his individual games, he has had 20 games last season alone of hitting 2 or more per game, and in 15 of those games he hit at least 3 three pointers. He had eight games of hitting 8 or more FT's in a game and had 13 games of at least 10 or more rebounds per game. At 6'8, 225, and a senior with a ton of experience, yes, he is 22.5 years old, but this is who we need to get.

I was right on Saddiq Bey over Nesmith, and I'm right this time too. Trust me.

Also, we need to sign Kabengele to a 4-year minimum contract, with team options like we did Hauser when he came out of the G-League. He will flourish as a backup behind Big Al, and Rob. He is the same age as Kornet, but much more athletic, stronger, and can shoot the three. This is something else to trust me on. He will be fine as a 3rd or 4th big, so we have no need to try to draft a project big, UNLESS Clowney falls into our laps.


I have studied Wilson 2 times.. may be there when we pick and he fills the need of having a backup 3..4 type.

From what I see he doesn't do really anything well but he doesn't have any weaknesses either..

I guess I would consider him a safe pic in the 2nd round..

I guess I'm still stuck on somehow trading up by trading Payton pritchard and our pick to get a higher level player..

But certainly won't complain if hes our pick
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#805 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue May 16, 2023 11:50 am

playa-hater wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I would really like to hear people's opinions on Scoot Henderson and/or Brandon Miller.. If Houston is really interested in trading Jalen Green and the number 2 pick As a starting point For J Brown, Boston absolutely has to listen..

And while there is a certain risk in obtaining young unproven talents.. Boston could acquire 2 young studs at a much cheaper contract for the next 10 years or so...

I am already especially high on Brandon Miller.. If we can get jalen green + Miller and another Asset or 2 for Brown, I think it's a no brainer.... Boston already has enough veterans in Derek white and Malcolm Brogdon plus smart and Tatum, They can easily overcome losing one veteran player like Brown for 2 absolute Studs.. Boston May not ever have a chance like this again...


Jfc


As usual you supply nothing other than being negative towards other poster's comments.. Are you this Useless in your life as well?


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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#806 » by Hal14 » Tue May 16, 2023 12:44 pm

playa-hater wrote:Another player I'm starting to look at But not expecting to fall into the 2nd round is Jett Howard..

I Think he is a very smooth shooter, He is pretty fundamentally sound thanks to his father.. Still relatively young and has a strong 6' 8 frame.. And while the knock on him is his lack of defensive ability, I think it can be overcome in the same way Sam Hauser was not considered a good defender but anticipates well.

I love to have spacers for our team especially with Tatum on it..

Jett is pretty good. Some people are very high on him and think he is a lottery talent (I've seen him ranked as high as 11 recently). I think some of his stats from last season would have been better (and perhaps there'd be less defensive concerns) but he had an ankle injury that limited him for like half the season.

He's 19 on my board at the moment. So would certainly be good value if he's there at 33 or 35.

I don't think he falls to the 2nd round, but you never know.

He's kind of like Hauser but the main difference is he showed some impressive flashes of creating his own shot off the dribble. Some nifty shake and bake crossover moves to create space and throw off the defender - and he's doing that stuff as a 19 yr old, so certainly has some upside.

He even operated as the PnR ball handler quite a bit, making some good reads and passes on the money to the roll man - guys at 6'8" who can do that are certainly valuable.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#807 » by Kalela » Tue May 16, 2023 1:07 pm

If the Celtics are interested in a wing, I am still convinced this guy is the best 3 and D wing in the draft that may still be available in the 2nd round where the Celtics draft. The Uconn guy Andre Jackson measured much better than I anticipated and shot much better at the combine as well.

Olivier-Maxence Prosper:

Height: 6' 6.75' (Without Shoes)
Hand Length: 8.25
Hand Width: 10.00
Standing Reach: 8' 8.00'
Wingspan: 7' 1.00

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Kalela wrote:I don't know if anyone else already mentioned him but Olivier-Maxence Prosper is a player to keep an eye on. He looks like an elite wing defender with good size. The way he shut down Jordan Hawkins in tonight's game in the Big East tournament was impressive. Hawkins is a difficult player to guard because he never stops moving all game and he is a lights-out shooter.

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Post#808 » by Celts17Pride » Tue May 16, 2023 1:10 pm

So 33 or 35?
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#809 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue May 16, 2023 1:49 pm

If the Celtics don't win the lottery, this whole thing is rigged.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#810 » by Hal14 » Tue May 16, 2023 2:18 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:So 33 or 35?

We'll find out tonight. If rockets get a higher pick than the spurs, then 33 is ours. If spurs get higher pick than rockets, we get 35.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#811 » by Hal14 » Tue May 16, 2023 2:23 pm

Kalela, Prosper is certainly an intriguing prospect. Definitely have him as a top 60 guy on my board. Think he may be a little bit of a reach at 33 or 35.

And think he projects more as a PF who can play some small ball 5 than a wing per se.

He's got a chance to raise his stock even more in the combine scrimmages..
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#812 » by playa-hater » Tue May 16, 2023 6:35 pm

They just put out the official combined measurements.. Is man some people shrunk even more than I thought.. I am driving and can't post a link someone should do it
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#813 » by Hal14 » Tue May 16, 2023 6:59 pm

playa-hater wrote:They just put out the official combined measurements.. Is man some people shrunk even more than I thought.. I am driving and can't post a link someone should do it

It probably just looks like the players shrunk because they posted their height without shoes.

Official measurements used by NBA team websites (and college team websites) are in-shoes.

Here's the link, though:
https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/2023-nba-draft-official-combine-measurements
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#814 » by Hal14 » Tue May 16, 2023 8:26 pm

Prospects who fit the following criteria:

-Bigs
-Could possibly still be there for our pick
-Might not be a reach at pick 33 / 35

Noah Clowney
Isaiah Miranda
James Nnaji
Adem Bona
Trayce Jackson-Davis
Tristan Vukcevic

The only one of these guys who's playing in the combine scrimmages is Vukcevic, so I'll be watching him closely during the scrimmages.

Here was Vukcevic yesterday..

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One advantage with taking Vukcevic (or Nnaji) is they come with the flexibility of bringing them over at any time, or stashing them overseas. With the Celtics in win-now mode, and playing time/roster spots that we can offer a rookie are very limited, it might not be a bad idea to grab a stash pick here.

Vukecic is playing for Partizan and Nnaji is playing for FC Barcelona, 2 of the best European teams. So you know that if they're stashed, both players are in good hands and will be in a good environment to help them continue to develop.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#815 » by brackdan70 » Tue May 16, 2023 8:43 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I would really like to hear people's opinions on Scoot Henderson and/or Brandon Miller.. If Houston is really interested in trading Jalen Green and the number 2 pick As a starting point For J Brown, Boston absolutely has to listen..

And while there is a certain risk in obtaining young unproven talents.. Boston could acquire 2 young studs at a much cheaper contract for the next 10 years or so...

I am already especially high on Brandon Miller.. If we can get jalen green + Miller and another Asset or 2 for Brown, I think it's a no brainer.... Boston already has enough veterans in Derek white and Malcolm Brogdon plus smart and Tatum, They can easily overcome losing one veteran player like Brown for 2 absolute Studs.. Boston May not ever have a chance like this again...


Jfc

I agree with the jfc sentiment. If we were starting a rebuild…then OK that’s some fair value for Brown, but we are trying to hang banners with two all NBA guys and a couple all defense guys and some great role players. We shouldn’t be making any trades that don’t make us better now imo.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#816 » by playa-hater » Tue May 16, 2023 8:44 pm

Didn't see the height listed for lively or Noah...
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#817 » by brackdan70 » Tue May 16, 2023 8:49 pm

I always want to draft bigs…idk why. Ainge and now Stevens seem to favor wings/guards and such. I feel we are set with Tatum, Brown, Smart, White,Brogdan, Hauser, Davison, Pritchard.
I think we need to be looking for a Horford replacement and maybe the draft isn’t the place. A few guys that might be there for us.
Noah Clowney
Adem Bona
James Nnaji
Trayce Jackson Davis
Bobi Klintman

I admit my scouting has gone downhill since having a kid, but these guys seem to have a chance to contribute.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#818 » by Hal14 » Tue May 16, 2023 9:03 pm

playa-hater wrote:Didn't see the height listed for lively or Noah...

Yeah, not all prospects get measured. Some prospects only go to the combine for interviews. Some skip it altogether.

But starting next season, every prospect will have to go and do everything at the combine (except scrimmages will still be optional).
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#819 » by Darthlukey » Tue May 16, 2023 9:29 pm

Who does everyone want in the top 2 of the lottery? I dont have a preferred team to be in the two, but my preferred outside the two would be Spurs, Wiz and Chicago.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#820 » by 165bows » Tue May 16, 2023 9:43 pm

Darthlukey wrote:Who does everyone want in the top 2 of the lottery? I dont have a preferred team to be in the two, but my preferred outside the two would be Spurs, Wiz and Chicago.

Detroit was mentioned upthread, and I think similar reasons for Orlando. Besides them always winning the lottery with a top end big available, perhaps WCJ becomes available at some point who would be a great fit. Tough to have the assets but who knows.

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