Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season)

[Fierce1]

Brad doesn't have the guts to trade JB.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Brad doesn't have the guts to trade JB.

I agree with this, but if he wanted to get off that supermax, maybe something off the wall like this could happen.

JB and Brogdon to ATL

Dejounte Murray, DeAndre Hunter, and Okongwu to BOS

We save 7.9M, get a quality PG in Murray, something of a JB replacement in Hunter, and Al and Rob insurance in Okongwu.

JB would probably be good with resigning in ATL.

[Darthlukey]

Brad doesn't have the guts to trade JB.

I agree with this, but if he wanted to get off that supermax, maybe something off the wall like this could happen.

JB and Brogdon to ATL

Dejounte Murray, DeAndre Hunter, and Okongwu to BOS

We save 7.9M, get a quality PG in Murray, something of a JB replacement in Hunter, and Al and Rob insurance in Okongwu.

JB would probably be good with resigning in ATL.

Allegedly Hawks value hunter irrationally highly

[Darthlukey]

Part of the problem with not paying Brown is that Tatum wants a running mate he views as an elite player. Agree or disagree with it, but he views Brown in that light.

So what if we found a way to replace the elite player, while also pocketing the draft pick…

Brown to POR for #3/Simons is universally considered fair

Simons to ORL for #11 is considered fair on the main board.

There’s a a WAS fan on the main board willing to trade Beal for #11 and total salary relief.

Combine those three ideas…

POR gives: 3, Simons
POR gets: Brown

ORL gives: 11
ORL gets: Simons

WAS gives: Beal
WAS gets: 11, small salary filler from Boston

BOS gives: Brown, small salary filler (Pritchard, Gallo)
BOS gets: 3, Beal


Smart / White
Beal / Brogdon
Tatum
Horford
RWillianms

We’d also have the #3 pick. Probably look to deal it with Brogdon for a great front court player that pushes Horford to the bench.

My gawd that deal actually looks ok. Im not a big beal fan, but getting access to the #3 is sexy

[Fierce1]

Let's not forget that if JB gets traded now, the team getting JB would want an assurance from JB that he would sign a long term deal there.

[titlebound1]

I've come to terms with the fact that a brown trade isn't happening, and that we'll be resigning him

Need to focus on upgrading Al's spot and maybe replacing smart.

[Fierce1]

Only way JB gets traded now is if the owners are cheap and not willing to give the supermax.

[big-shot-ROB]

This thread looks like those **** youtube rebuild video where they keep throwing stuff on the wall and see what sticks

[djFan71]

This thread looks like those **** youtube rebuild video where they keep throwing stuff on the wall and see what sticks

That’s the fun, man. Throw stuff out, workshop it a bit or shut it down if it’s dumb. To quote Primus, they can’t all be zingers.

[Fierce1]

KD wasn't smart enough to tell the Nets to trade him to Boston.

This year's finals would've been more interesting if the Nuggets were facing a Celtic team with JT and KD.

[big-shot-ROB]

This thread looks like those **** youtube rebuild video where they keep throwing stuff on the wall and see what sticks

That’s the fun, man. Throw stuff out, workshop it a bit or shut it down if it’s dumb. To quote Primus, they can’t all be zingers.

Well, I'd argue otherwise, as realistic trades with pros and cons and written nuances seems better, but I'll accept maybe I'm in the wrong here if it works better for everyone

[djFan71]

This thread looks like those **** youtube rebuild video where they keep throwing stuff on the wall and see what sticks

That’s the fun, man. Throw stuff out, workshop it a bit or shut it down if it’s dumb. To quote Primus, they can’t all be zingers.

Well, I'd argue otherwise, as realistic trades with pros and cons and written nuances seems better, but I'll accept maybe I'm in the wrong here if it works better for everyone

Oh, it does,but you’re not getting that here, lol. The real trade board is better for that with a thread per trade. Here it’s just all kinda jumbled and messy like you said. But there’s good stuff amongst the mix to engage on too. It does tend to fly by too quickly in one thread where everyone’s super active right now, though.

[FlatearthZorro]

Only way JB gets traded now is if the owners are cheap and not willing to give the supermax.

This is a dangerous situation for the C's either way. If you trade Brown you're more than likely not getting the same value, if you don't trade him, he's on a CRAZY contract and may be untradeable in a year if he doesn't perform the same way he did last year.

[Fierce1]

Only way JB gets traded now is if the owners are cheap and not willing to give the supermax.

This is a dangerous situation for the C's either way. If you trade Brown you're more than likely not getting the same value, if you don't trade him, he's on a CRAZY contract and may be untradeable in a year if he doesn't perform the same way he did last year.

JB has always improved every season.

I think he's still improving because he has yet to reach his prime.

The safer route is to keep JB, for now.

But in order to do that, he has to be given the supermax.

[zoyathedestroya]

Turn Brown and Brogdon into Dame and WCJ. Addresses the second playmaker issue, adds a clutch scorer, and acquires Horford’s long-term replacement.

Dunno who the max free agents are in 2025 but Cs can have option of opening up max cap space by then if Lillard doesn’t work out. Operate under the cap and reset repeater tax clock.

[Triple7]

Only way JB gets traded now is if the owners are cheap and not willing to give the supermax.

This is a dangerous situation for the C's either way. If you trade Brown you're more than likely not getting the same value, if you don't trade him, he's on a CRAZY contract and may be untradeable in a year if he doesn't perform the same way he did last year.

JB has always improved every season.

I think he's still improving because he has yet to reach his prime.

The safer route is to keep JB, for now.

But in order to do that, he has to be given the supermax.

He is untradeable with that albatross supermax contract. I can’t stand watching Brown and Smart crapped their pants again. Smart with that smug on his face acting like he’s steph curry. This is who brown is. I think he’s reached his peak. Maybe a little more improvement, but i think this is his ceiling. He won’t suddenly learn how to dribble and be a playmaker. If this team decides to sign him to a supermax, then we are stuck with him. If that’s the case, then they better surround them with players that fit. A really good shooting pg for starters, and a really good decent center. Also they have to change the offense entirely. If they want to chuck 3’s for offense, then smart, brown and Rob won’t fit in that.

[Fierce1]

What I don't like about "Dame Time" is he usually turns into "Lame Time" at some point in the season.

[Triple7]

What I don't like about "Dame Time" is he usually turns into "Lame Time" at some point in the season.

Yeah. I remember Dame and CJ went non stop chucking bricks to lose the series.

[Fierce1]

This is a dangerous situation for the C's either way. If you trade Brown you're more than likely not getting the same value, if you don't trade him, he's on a CRAZY contract and may be untradeable in a year if he doesn't perform the same way he did last year.

JB has always improved every season.

I think he's still improving because he has yet to reach his prime.

The safer route is to keep JB, for now.

But in order to do that, he has to be given the supermax.

He is untradeable with that albatross supermax contract. I can’t stand watching Brown and Smart crapped their pants again. Smart with that smug on his face acting like he’s steph curry. This is who brown is. I think he’s reached his peak. Maybe a little more improvement, but i think this is his ceiling. He won’t suddenly learn how to dribble and be a playmaker. If this team decides to sign him to a supermax, then we are stuck with him. If that’s the case, then they better surround them with players that fit. A really good shooting pg for starters, and a really good decent center. Also they have to change the offense entirely. If they want to chuck 3’s for offense, then smart, brown and Rob won’t fit in that.

Yeah, Brown and Smart really lowers the IQ of this Celtics team.

But knowing the Celtics and their owners, they will not trade Brown.

I don't know about Smart because I think Brad loves Smart.

However, if there's a good time to trade Smart, it's right now because Smart's value is very high right now.

[Triple7]

JB has always improved every season.

I think he's still improving because he has yet to reach his prime.

The safer route is to keep JB, for now.

But in order to do that, he has to be given the supermax.

He is untradeable with that albatross supermax contract. I can’t stand watching Brown and Smart crapped their pants again. Smart with that smug on his face acting like he’s steph curry. This is who brown is. I think he’s reached his peak. Maybe a little more improvement, but i think this is his ceiling. He won’t suddenly learn how to dribble and be a playmaker. If this team decides to sign him to a supermax, then we are stuck with him. If that’s the case, then they better surround them with players that fit. A really good shooting pg for starters, and a really good decent center. Also they have to change the offense entirely. If they want to chuck 3’s for offense, then smart, brown and Rob won’t fit in that.

Yeah, Brown and Smart really lowers the IQ of this Celtics team.

But knowing the Celtics and their owners, they will not trade Brown.

I don't know about Smart because I think Brad loves Smart.

However, if there's a good time to trade Smart, it's right now because Smart's value is very high right now.

I agree. Players shouldn’t be emotionally attached to their teammates. This core has run its course already. I’d trade smart and Rob right now for a decent big. White and brog can handle the guard duties.