"We Tried So Hard, and (Haven't) Got so Far, But in the End, It Doesn't Even Matter" Trade Thread

[JHTruth]

Don’t be so sure.

Man what is this team's direction? We're trading Theis, then Thompson, trying to get Barnes, Collins?

Are we going for it? Are we selling?

Or...are we standing pat? Like usual

Idk if Danny knows at this point

He's building around the Jays (like he has any choice) but they are our two best players. Sadly, by the time they are seriously ready to compete for rings, Kemba's contract will be over and he will probably be in decline. We need to stock up with players around their age

[Banks2Pierce]

Hell no to Useless Bum Baynes! Trash!!!!

Would give us 2 million more room for this season/free it all up for the offeseason and we may need that. I stopped seeing the point in Tristan when he got torched 1v1 vs Embiid. He's clogging up the rotation(and the lane). The only hesitation is that Theis and Timelord are injury prone. Buyouts seem to be around in case something happens and I find it interesting that the Lamarcus Aldridge link has come out on the same day anyhow.

[jirrit]

Where are we currently in the trading landscape? Havent read much lately so date me up with the juicy yet semi-realistic rumors please

[aporel18]

Ok, four trades to get this team going...

Grant Williams and Javonte Green to SAC for Bjelica
Tristan to Toronto for Baynes
Carsen to Detroit for Wayne Ellington
Teague and the 2021 FRP to Cleveland for Larry Nance Jr.

... then sign IT to an extra spicy postseason

Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Bjelica/Theis
Pritchard/Smart/Ellington/Nance Jr./Timelord
IT/Romeo/Nesmith/Semi/Baynes

#18 is coming...

[CeltsfaninDC]

I don’t blame him. Sounds like others do too. But again, he’s getting leftover scraps on the Celtics. Tatum/Brown/Kemba all ahead of him in the pecking order here. That dude will be lucky to get the same amount of FGA here than what he’s getting in Atlanta?

If they get Collins, Kemba will be dumped in the off-season.

Yah, we cant have 4 max guys

And everyone is settling on Collins for the final piece? I have far higher expectations for the final guy that the Js need. John Collins is meh. All this talk here about getting another banner and John Collins is what we are proposing here?

[JHTruth]

If they get Collins, Kemba will be dumped in the off-season.

Yah, we cant have 4 max guys

And everyone is settling on Collins for the final piece? I have far higher expectations for the final guy that the Js need. John Collins is meh. All this talk here about getting another banner and John Collins is what we are proposing here?

And who do you have your eyes on?

[Celts17Pride]

If they get Collins, Kemba will be dumped in the off-season.

Yah, we cant have 4 max guys

And everyone is settling on Collins for the final piece? I have far higher expectations for the final guy that the Js need. John Collins is meh. All this talk here about getting another banner and John Collins is what we are proposing here?

Celtics are not a final piece away. Getting Collins puts the Celtics closer to needing a final piece.

[Fencer reregistered]

Ok, four trades to get this team going...

Grant Williams and Javonte Green to SAC for Bjelica
Tristan to Toronto for Baynes
Carsen to Detroit for Wayne Ellington
Teague and the 2021 FRP to Cleveland for Larry Nance Jr.

... then sign IT to an extra spicy postseason

Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Bjelica/Theis
Pritchard/Smart/Ellington/Nance Jr./Timelord
IT/Romeo/Nesmith/Semi/Baynes

#18 is coming...

Nance isn't coming for a single pick. Not coincidentally, he'd start over Bjelica.

[SuperDeluxe]

Read on Twitter

Someone gets it. YES! YES! YES!

Hell no to Useless Bum Baynes! Trash!!!!

Like clockwork.

He must have an email alert for whenever anybody in cyberspace types "Baynes."

[CeltsfaninDC]

Yah, we cant have 4 max guys

And everyone is settling on Collins for the final piece? I have far higher expectations for the final guy that the Js need. John Collins is meh. All this talk here about getting another banner and John Collins is what we are proposing here?

And who do you have your eyes on?

If we are at the point of looking at guys that get us over the top then I think its guys like Beal, not John Collins. If we are looking for 4s then I'd want one thats not undersized and can shoots 3s better than Semi. Right now he's not as good as Siakam or Tobey Harris and I don't want to pay either of them max deals either. You also are going to have to buy HIGH on this guy which means a bunch of outgoing assets too. I'd rather take some deals that make us better now without hamstringing us for the next 4 years with a mediocre 4

[CelticFaninLBC]

And everyone is settling on Collins for the final piece? I have far higher expectations for the final guy that the Js need. John Collins is meh. All this talk here about getting another banner and John Collins is what we are proposing here?

And who do you have your eyes on?

If we are at the point of looking at guys that get us over the top then I think its guys like Beal, not John Collins. If we are looking for 4s then I'd want one thats not undersized and can shoots 3s better than Semi. Right now he's not as good as Siakam or Tobey Harris and I don't want to pay either of them max deals either. You also are going to have to buy HIGH on this guy which means a bunch of outgoing assets too. I'd rather take some deals that make us better now without hamstringing us for the next 4 years with a mediocre 4

How do they get Beal?

[aporel18]

Ok, four trades to get this team going...

Grant Williams and Javonte Green to SAC for Bjelica
Tristan to Toronto for Baynes
Carsen to Detroit for Wayne Ellington
Teague and the 2021 FRP to Cleveland for Larry Nance Jr.

... then sign IT to an extra spicy postseason

Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Bjelica/Theis
Pritchard/Smart/Ellington/Nance Jr./Timelord
IT/Romeo/Nesmith/Semi/Baynes

#18 is coming...

Nance isn't coming for a single pick. Not coincidentally, he'd start over Bjelica.

I think Nance would fit better off the bench, he'd thrive in the Semi role, and of course, he can be the small ball center to end games: Kemba/Smart/Brown/Tatum/Nance. On the other hand, Bjelica would give you more spacing and also complement Theis better on the starting lineup. If Cleveland wants more than a first, I'd pass.


In the end, with those trades you would have 10 reliable rotation players, plus IT/Baynes/Semi in situational roles. Romeo and Nesmith would need to earn their minutes, and eventually crack the rotation. Enough to win it all? if your main players are healthy, why not?

[CeltsfaninDC]

Yah, we cant have 4 max guys

And everyone is settling on Collins for the final piece? I have far higher expectations for the final guy that the Js need. John Collins is meh. All this talk here about getting another banner and John Collins is what we are proposing here?

Celtics are not a final piece away. Getting Collins puts the Celtics closer to needing a final piece.

but you would probably be forced to use some assets to get him that would be valuable in getting that final piece. I guess you could make a case that if the price isn't too high you could bundle some marginal assets into Collins and then use him and other pieces to get a Beal......

[Celts17Pride]

And everyone is settling on Collins for the final piece? I have far higher expectations for the final guy that the Js need. John Collins is meh. All this talk here about getting another banner and John Collins is what we are proposing here?

Celtics are not a final piece away. Getting Collins puts the Celtics closer to needing a final piece.

but you would probably be forced to use some assets to get him that would be valuable in getting that final piece. I guess you could make a case that if the price isn't too high you could bundle some marginal assets into Collins and then use him and other pieces to get a Beal......

Beal is a pipe dream but if you were going after him then Collins or Brown is going to get the Wiz a lot more interested then first round picks in the 20-30 range

[CeltsfaninDC]

And who do you have your eyes on?

If we are at the point of looking at guys that get us over the top then I think its guys like Beal, not John Collins. If we are looking for 4s then I'd want one thats not undersized and can shoots 3s better than Semi. Right now he's not as good as Siakam or Tobey Harris and I don't want to pay either of them max deals either. You also are going to have to buy HIGH on this guy which means a bunch of outgoing assets too. I'd rather take some deals that make us better now without hamstringing us for the next 4 years with a mediocre 4

How do they get Beal?

well, they don't this year, but possibly before next season. It would absolutely take Jaylen as a starting point and I'm sure some other assets as well. You'd also have to do something with Kemba too if you expect to sign Collins long term or you just wave bye bye to him and all the stuff you gave away to rent him.

[CelticFaninLBC]

If we are at the point of looking at guys that get us over the top then I think its guys like Beal, not John Collins. If we are looking for 4s then I'd want one thats not undersized and can shoots 3s better than Semi. Right now he's not as good as Siakam or Tobey Harris and I don't want to pay either of them max deals either. You also are going to have to buy HIGH on this guy which means a bunch of outgoing assets too. I'd rather take some deals that make us better now without hamstringing us for the next 4 years with a mediocre 4

How do they get Beal?

well, they don't this year, but possibly before next season. It would absolutely take Jaylen as a starting point and I'm sure some other assets as well. You'd also have to do something with Kemba too if you expect to sign Collins long term or you just wave bye bye to him and all the stuff you gave away to rent him.

Tatum and Beal would still need another major piece, if you're dealing Brown...

[TommyForever]

Man what is this team's direction? We're trading Theis, then Thompson, trying to get Barnes, Collins?

Are we going for it? Are we selling?

Or...are we standing pat? Like usual

Idk if Danny knows at this point

He's building around the Jays (like he has any choice) but they are our two best players. Sadly, by the time they are seriously ready to compete for rings, Kemba's contract will be over and he will probably be in decline. We need to stock up with players around their age

FTR He has a choice. He could trade one of them. Or both. The return on Jayson Tatum would be franchise altering.

[Ben-N1ce]

I don't see any move putting them over the top unless they aquire a top 20 player without losing the Jay's. I don't see any avenue to that. If they make a move it should be for a good player that hasnt peaked which I doubt there are any available.

[Bohemian]

Who are we targetting from the Raptors?

[BigTrade92]

This Toronto rumor is confusing.

What the hell was the point in signing Thompson for 2/$19 and passing on Baynes in the offseason, if only a few months later you're looking to dump Tristian for pennies for the exact same guy you passed on...

It’s like Ainge is just winging it at this point.