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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#841 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:29 pm

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captain green wrote:Now I hope roko, isaiah todd or joel ayayi falls to 45
Otherwise I had ariel hukporti penciled in at 45 for my first mock and I liked his zion lite comparison.

Oh man, if Roko is still there at 45 Brad better run that card up there with his name on it. That would be a steal. Adam Spinella has Roko no. 14 on his big board.

2 recent mocks I just checked, 1 has him going 30th and the other has him going 28th so doubt he will still be there, but we can dream..


Yeah I don't know how we get a shot at them but Roko or Isaiah Todd would be *perfect* fits for our roster right now.
Brad Stevens, get one of them and I will sing your praises from the internet rooftops.
Trade Tristan for a late first? Or Grant and a 2nd? Or continue to liquidate all of our future 2nd round picks?

Grant FOR an early 2nd?
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#842 » by 31to6 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:01 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Oh man, if Roko is still there at 45 Brad better run that card up there with his name on it. That would be a steal. Adam Spinella has Roko no. 14 on his big board.

2 recent mocks I just checked, 1 has him going 30th and the other has him going 28th so doubt he will still be there, but we can dream..


Yeah I don't know how we get a shot at them but Roko or Isaiah Todd would be *perfect* fits for our roster right now.
Brad Stevens, get one of them and I will sing your praises from the internet rooftops.
Trade Tristan for a late first? Or Grant and a 2nd? Or continue to liquidate all of our future 2nd round picks?

Grant FOR an early 2nd?


As high as I am on Roko and I. Todd, not sure I'd pull the trigger on that one. Grant has limitations (and tends to get lumped with Semi as 'useless' too quickly) but he also does a lot of good things for us.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#843 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:49 pm

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Yeah I don't know how we get a shot at them but Roko or Isaiah Todd would be *perfect* fits for our roster right now.
Brad Stevens, get one of them and I will sing your praises from the internet rooftops.
Trade Tristan for a late first? Or Grant and a 2nd? Or continue to liquidate all of our future 2nd round picks?

Grant FOR an early 2nd?


As high as I am on Roko and I. Todd, not sure I'd pull the trigger on that one. Grant has limitations (and tends to get lumped with Semi as 'useless' too quickly) but he also does a lot of good things for us.

Yeah, he's 3 steps above Semi in my book. But his peak is PJ Tucker that taller players shoot over. I don't know what happened to him this year, soph slump or something, but he didn't progress, maybe even regressed. And he's got the Sully diet fear as well.

I doubt it happens, we don't appear to be needing more youth by any means. 45 is good.

If it did, maybe something with Pistons - 37 & 42 for Grant, 45 and cash. Or maybe they'll want Carsen....
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#844 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:50 pm

This would be a definite gamble but if the right to players fell early 2nd round I would rather or strongly consider trading next year's 1st to OKC's 34th and 36 pick.

If everything goes well and of course we stay healthy a big if we might and the picking late 1st round next year anyhow but to get through 1st round talents I would be all over and give up next year's number one but that's just me..

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Post#845 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:51 pm

This would be a definite gamble but if the right two players fell early 2nd round I would rather or strongly consider trading next year's 1st to OKC's 34th imagine Boston and Roko for.example
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Post#846 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:17 pm

playa-hater wrote:This would be a definite gamble but if the right to players fell early 2nd round I would rather or strongly consider trading next year's 1st to OKC's 34th and 36 pick.

If everything goes well and of course we stay healthy a big if we might and the picking late 1st round next year anyhow but to get through 1st round talents I would be all over and give up next year's number one but that's just me..

Thoughts??

I'm torn since I love the potential, but you'd have to really LOVE the 2 guys and feel neither would survive til 45.
We got 13 guys already if Parker is back. Could probably jettison some more. But, I assume we'll also want some more vet mins.
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Post#847 » by lon3lytoaster » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:03 pm

Would love to get back into the last first round if Roko slips. He’s gonna be solid.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#848 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:48 am

The same group of crazies who wrecked the roster and the salary cap just gave away the first round pick to try to fix some of the damage they did.

No crafting drafting now.

Huge failures.



Everyone hates Luka Garza even though he is tall and hits 44% of his 3s?

Would be fine at pick 45.


Most of the Celtics' roster is so bad they need to add a first with them to get a second rounder back in trade.



Boston owner is so cheap, will probably sell the second rounder for cash.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#849 » by playa-hater » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:51 am

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31to6 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Oh man, if Roko is still there at 45 Brad better run that card up there with his name on it. That would be a steal. Adam Spinella has Roko no. 14 on his big board.

2 recent mocks I just checked, 1 has him going 30th and the other has him going 28th so doubt he will still be there, but we can dream..


Yeah I don't know how we get a shot at them but Roko or Isaiah Todd would be *perfect* fits for our roster right now.
Brad Stevens, get one of them and I will sing your praises from the internet rooftops.
Trade Tristan for a late first? Or Grant and a 2nd? Or continue to liquidate all of our future 2nd round picks?

Grant FOR any 2nd?


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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#850 » by playa-hater » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:57 am

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playa-hater wrote:This would be a definite gamble but if the right to players fell early 2nd round I would rather or strongly consider trading next year's 1st to OKC's 34th and 36 pick.

If everything goes well and of course we stay healthy a big if we might and the picking late 1st round next year anyhow but to get through 1st round talents I would be all over and give up next year's number one but that's just me..

Thoughts??

I'm torn since I love the potential, but you'd have to really LOVE the 2 guys and feel neither would survive til 45.
We got 13 guys already if Parker is back. Could probably jettison some more. But, I assume we'll also want some more vet mins.


my belief is players like Roko, Trey Murphy, I Todd, BJ Boston amongst a few more are all quality first rd talents that can not all be drafted in RD in such a deep draft. I say strike if possible. This team needs and upgrade on talent first and foremost. We don't need another Veteran with Big Al on board.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#851 » by Hal14 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:10 am

playa-hater wrote:This would be a definite gamble but if the right two players fell early 2nd round I would rather or strongly consider trading next year's 1st to OKC's 34th imagine Boston and Roko for.example

Ohh, BJ Boston and Roko Pkacin would be a nice combo.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#852 » by Patsfan1081 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:34 am

:noway: Second year in a row we had to give away a first rounder to correct the roster..... :banghead: I don’t think Ainge is getting enough heat. Oh well.....I would hope Bassey or Hukporti would still be there but I doubt they grab a big man. Prob a stash oversees.
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Post#853 » by return2glory » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:59 am

Man, I'm disappointed we gave up the 16th pick in this deep draft. I love draft night and this move messed that up, haha.

I'm hoping we can still make a trade to get back into the 1st round this year.

I like the Moses Brown addition but I feel their are better bigs in this years draft in the late 1st round and early to mid 2nd round. It doesn't seem to make too much sense to draft a center at 45 now with Brown on board. But I would still take a center if he was best available player.
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Post#854 » by gocelts » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:57 am

What undersized point guard will be there in the 2nd?
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Post#855 » by djFan71 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:23 am

playa-hater wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:This would be a definite gamble but if the right to players fell early 2nd round I would rather or strongly consider trading next year's 1st to OKC's 34th and 36 pick.

If everything goes well and of course we stay healthy a big if we might and the picking late 1st round next year anyhow but to get through 1st round talents I would be all over and give up next year's number one but that's just me..

Thoughts??

I'm torn since I love the potential, but you'd have to really LOVE the 2 guys and feel neither would survive til 45.
We got 13 guys already if Parker is back. Could probably jettison some more. But, I assume we'll also want some more vet mins.


my belief is players like Roko, Trey Murphy, I Todd, BJ Boston amongst a few more are all quality first rd talents that can not all be drafted in RD in such a deep draft. I say strike if possible. This team needs and upgrade on talent first and foremost. We don't need another Veteran with Big Al on board.

Yeah, I kinda wish we'd gotten one their early 2nds as part of this deal. But, oh well. Agree, I like those guys. But I don't agree we don't need more vets. We're trying to win. Next year.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#856 » by return2glory » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:41 am

gocelts wrote:What undersized point guard will be there in the 2nd?


We just traded one. Hopeful undersized guards are a thing of past for the team.
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Post#857 » by cloverleaf » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:15 pm

Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:This would be a definite gamble but if the right two players fell early 2nd round I would rather or strongly consider trading next year's 1st to OKC's 34th imagine Boston and Roko for.example

Ohh, BJ Boston and Roko Pkacin would be a nice combo.


So do you see yesterday's move as double good news for Yam? One fewer PGs on the roster and an opening to come over as the de facto 1st-round pick?
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Post#858 » by Half-Full » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:17 pm

Another second round candidate to consider is Rai'Quan Gray. I've mentioned his name before, but with our first pick traded, our focus is now on who might be available at pick #45. I think he would make a nice complement in a lineup with a rim protector like Timelord or Moses Brown. I like that he is a decent defender, and that in a pinch he can serve as a small-ball 5. He's not going to get pushed around. His down side is that he doesn't have a very good jump shot, has limited verticality, and is prone to fouling. On the plus side his size, strength, and quickness allows him to guard multiple positions, he's a very good passer/ball handler, good at pick and roll, very good driving to the basket, and has a decent floater. Currently Bleacher Report's mock has him going at #34, NBAdraftnet at #55, NBADraftRoom has him at #43.

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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#859 » by Hal14 » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:02 pm

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Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:This would be a definite gamble but if the right two players fell early 2nd round I would rather or strongly consider trading next year's 1st to OKC's 34th imagine Boston and Roko for.example

Ohh, BJ Boston and Roko Pkacin would be a nice combo.


So do you see yesterday's move as double good news for Yam? One fewer PGs on the roster and an opening to come over as the de facto 1st-round pick?

Well, yes of course. It's good news for both Yam and Pritchard.

But long way to go till opening night and I expect more moves to come so we'll see..
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Post#860 » by cloverleaf » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:16 pm

Half-Full wrote:Another second round candidate to consider is Rai'Quan Gray. I've mentioned his name before, but with our first pick traded, our focus is now on who might be available at pick #45. I think he would make a nice complement in a lineup with a rim protector like Timelord or Moses Brown. I like that he is a decent defender, and that in a pinch he can serve as a small-ball 5. He's not going to get pushed around. His down side is that he doesn't have a very good jump shot, has limited verticality, and is prone to fouling. On the plus side his size, strength, and quickness allows him to guard multiple positions, he's a very good passer/ball handler, good at pick and roll, very good driving to the basket, and has a decent floater. Currently Bleacher Report's mock has him going at #34, NBAdraftnet at #55, NBADraftRoom has him at #43.

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Ugh. Another Grant?

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