What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling?

[bisme37]

The Yump gushed about our boy today. Windhorst says Jaylen is on his ballot for MIP, All-Star, and All-NBA. And he said there are only 3 or 4 players in the league he'd trade him for. Vince Carter also impressed and said the Cs can come out of the East because the Jays are so good on both ends.

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[Darth Celtic]

Best player on the team. Has the fire that Tatum doesn't. Stats and kobe step backs can be fools gold.

That's a hot take even for me a Jaylen stan Waiting for Cave to come in for the stone cold stunner

OK, I am here. I underestimated how hard Jaylen would work himself into a player. Took like 13 years to eat it on something, but I missed there. With that said, Tatum has more tools in the box. relative to Tatum, Jaylen's handle still a bit suspect, and he can't close games nearly as well because of his lack of FT shooting and lesser playmaking, and also because Tatum has more length and can get his shot up over pretty much anyone.

Tatum is shaping up as a true triple threat, and gets the tougher defenders, plus double-teams. Props to Jaylen for closing what was a fairly large gap until now.

See guys. This is how you admit you are wrong about an opinion. It's why cave is such a good poster with huge respect on realgm.

When you are proven so wrong and you just double down on the stupid instead people realize they should just skip over your posts.


Looking at you bostoncouchderp

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[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The Yump gushed about our boy today. Windhorst says Jaylen is on his ballot for MIP, All-Star, and All-NBA. And he said there are only 3 or 4 players in the league he'd trade him for. Vince Carter also impressed and said the Cs can come out of the East because the Jays are so good on both ends.

Watch on YouTube

I thought you had created a new nickname for Windy when you said the Yump. Imagine my disappointment when I realized it was a typo.

Spoiler:

I’m still going to call Windhorst the Yump.

[bisme37]

Spoiler:

The Yump gushed about our boy today. Windhorst says Jaylen is on his ballot for MIP, All-Star, and All-NBA. And he said there are only 3 or 4 players in the league he'd trade him for. Vince Carter also impressed and said the Cs can come out of the East because the Jays are so good on both ends.

Watch on YouTube

I thought you had created a new nickname for Windy when you said the Yump. Imagine my disappointment when I realized it was a typo.

[spoiler]I’m still going to call Windhorst the Yump.

[/spoiler]

I always call him Windbag in my head haha. Unless he's saying nice things about the Celtics.

[Fencer reregistered]

The Yump gushed about our boy today. Windhorst says Jaylen is on his ballot for MIP, All-Star, and All-NBA. And he said there are only 3 or 4 players in the league he'd trade him for. Vince Carter also impressed and said the Cs can come out of the East because the Jays are so good on both ends.

Watch on YouTube

I thought you had created a new nickname for Windy when you said the Yump. Imagine my disappointment when I realized it was a typo.

Spoiler:

I’m still going to call Windhorst the Yump.

Ja, du hast recht.

[cl2117]

If y'all want a fun throwback, check out the GB thread about his extension:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1899006

[captain green]

“He’s on my Most Improved ballot, he’s on the All-Star ballot, he’s on the All-NBA ballot,” Windhorst said. “I’ve got to be honest, there’s only 3-4 players in this league right now I would probably trade Jaylen Brown for, and the contract he signed — while it is a $100-million contract, it’s well less than the max, making the Celtics thrilled that they got him on that deal. He’s arguably one of the most valued dollar-for-dollar players in the league right now, and if you watch the way he got the points in this game, he showed everything. …hmmm hmmm sounds about right at least a few of us have been holding this opinion down since the beginning.

[Bleeding Green]

If y'all want a fun throwback, check out the GB thread about his extension:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1899006

Wow a lot of those posts are just screaming for the petty And-1.

[sam_I_am]

Best player on the team. Has the fire that Tatum doesn't. Stats and kobe step backs can be fools gold.

That's a hot take even for me a Jaylen stan Waiting for Cave to come in for the stone cold stunner

OK, I am here. I underestimated how hard Jaylen would work himself into a player. Took like 13 years to eat it on something, but I missed there. With that said, Tatum has more tools in the box. relative to Tatum, Jaylen's handle still a bit suspect, and he can't close games nearly as well because of his lack of FT shooting and lesser playmaking, and also because Tatum has more length and can get his shot up over pretty much anyone.

Tatum is shaping up as a true triple threat, and gets the tougher defenders, plus double-teams. Props to Jaylen for closing what was a fairly large gap until now.

Wow!!! I am truly stunned! A RealGM landmark moment. You finally admitted you were wrong!

Seriously though, you are both an astute talent evaluator and a hard to please critic ....so for you to pull a mea culpa on Brown is high praise indeed!

I have always loved Brown but I never thought he would be this good. I did argue that he would live up to and earn his new contract. I never thought it would be the best contract in the NBA a mere 16 games into it .... and yet it is. Right now Jaylen is all NBA and is playing better than the best player on at least 20 teams. He is playing like he deserves a max contract and Danny has locked him in at a huge discount for 3-4 more years.

Comparing him to Jordan is obviously hyperbole....but I will anyway. His game is the most like Jordan’s I have seen in a long time. Kobe could better imitate Jordan’s elite skill and physical dominance but Brown actually plays more like him....just without the overpowering speed, hops and handle that made Jordan (and Kobe) amongst the best ever. His transition game, his ability to attack the rim and pull up or stop and spin before shooting is so reminiscent. Clearly, not nearly as good.....but very similar. It may not be as brilliant, but it is a winning style of basketball just the same.

To be that good and still be second best player on the team by a wide margin is a truly great state for the Celtics franchise.

[Saint Lazarus]

If y'all want a fun throwback, check out the GB thread about his extension:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1899006

You're welcome

[jfs1000d]

I wouldn't go to that extreme. Tatum faces much more defensive challenge than Brown does. The "gravity" argument that everybody else's scoring benefits from Tatum's presence has a lot of merit.

Sometimes Tatum also benefits from more offense scheming to spring him free. (E.g., he uses Theis seals a lot more than Brown does, and he's more likely to get a double screen than Brown is.) But that narrows the gap in difficulty versus other scorers, rather than closing it all the way.

ok, i don’t want to keep bashing tatum, but good to see that perk agrees with me on brown being the best on the team.

Perks is legit one of the dumbest human beings on Earth. Glad you two agree on something

Love Perk. Guy is funny and knows hoops. Wtf u want on a postgame show?


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[Captain_Caveman]

Wow!!! I am truly stunned! A RealGM landmark moment. You finally admitted you were wrong!

Seriously though, you are both an astute talent evaluator and a hard to please critic ....so for you to pull a mea culpa on Brown is high praise indeed!

Right on, but funny thing about that is that I wasn't wrong on the other stuff that I was supposed to do a mea culpa for. Soft tanking would have gotten us Embiid over Smart at the least, and IT was in fact not a building block and was better suited to a 6th man role due to his total lack of defense and the fact his small body was not going to hold up to his style of play.

On Jaylen, I never thought he was terrible, just thought he was slightly overpaid and did not see him as a top 25 player. He actually might be top 15 right now. Bravo.

[Bleeding Green]

Imagine the Celtics drafting Embiid and then he doesn't play for two full seasons, then he plays 31 games, gets injured AGAIN, and now Ainge is giving him the 5-year rookie max extension. What an insane risk.

[Feed Your Head]

Wow!!! I am truly stunned! A RealGM landmark moment. You finally admitted you were wrong!

Seriously though, you are both an astute talent evaluator and a hard to please critic ....so for you to pull a mea culpa on Brown is high praise indeed!

Right on, but funny thing about that is that I wasn't wrong on the other stuff that I was supposed to do a mea culpa for. Soft tanking would have gotten us Embiid over Smart at the least, and IT was in fact not a building block and was better suited to a 6th man role due to his total lack of defense and the fact his small body was not going to hold up to his style of play.

On Jaylen, I never thought he was terrible, just thought he was slightly overpaid and did not see him as a top 25 player. He actually might be top 15 right now. Bravo.

Now that it seems they have a legitimate number one and number two, they just need to find a way to get some more talent around them. The Kings and Grizzlies picks not working out really screwed things up.

[Saint Lazarus]

Imagine the Celtics drafting Embiid and then he doesn't play for two full seasons, then he plays 31 games, gets injured AGAIN, and now Ainge is giving him the 5-year rookie max extension. What an insane risk.

He would've gotten cancer, COVID, and they would have had to amputate both of his legs now if he were on the Celtics. Our injury luck wouldn't have it

[sam_I_am]

Wow!!! I am truly stunned! A RealGM landmark moment. You finally admitted you were wrong!

Seriously though, you are both an astute talent evaluator and a hard to please critic ....so for you to pull a mea culpa on Brown is high praise indeed!

Right on, but funny thing about that is that I wasn't wrong on the other stuff that I was supposed to do a mea culpa for. Soft tanking would have gotten us Embiid over Smart at the least, and IT was in fact not a building block and was better suited to a 6th man role due to his total lack of defense and the fact his small body was not going to hold up to his style of play.

On Jaylen, I never thought he was terrible, just thought he was slightly overpaid and did not see him as a top 25 player. He actually might be top 15 right now. Bravo.

Signing IT to extension was wrong. Trading for Kyrie with the pick that could have been Sexton, Porter Jr. or Shai was wrong. Signing Hayward and getting rid of Jay Crowder even looked bad last year. For a little while this year, letting Rozier go to sign Kemba was stupid. Go figure. Even signing TT and Teague looks iffy at the moment. “Play the draft picks” an opinion I despise is looking better by the day.

I’ll just leave it like this: the current state of the Celtics is really good and really enjoyable as a fan. I’ll live with it even if the Nets and Lakers win titles and we don’t. I like what Celtics have done better.

[ConstableGeneva]

Jaylen might not want to skip the All-Star game this year if it pushes through. They're planning on having it in his home state Atlanta.

[Homerclease]

Wow!!! I am truly stunned! A RealGM landmark moment. You finally admitted you were wrong!

Seriously though, you are both an astute talent evaluator and a hard to please critic ....so for you to pull a mea culpa on Brown is high praise indeed!

Right on, but funny thing about that is that I wasn't wrong on the other stuff that I was supposed to do a mea culpa for. Soft tanking would have gotten us Embiid over Smart at the least, and IT was in fact not a building block and was better suited to a 6th man role due to his total lack of defense and the fact his small body was not going to hold up to his style of play.

On Jaylen, I never thought he was terrible, just thought he was slightly overpaid and did not see him as a top 25 player. He actually might be top 15 right now. Bravo.

Now that it seems they have a legitimate number one and number two, they just need to find a way to get some more talent around them. The Kings and Grizzlies picks not working out really screwed things up.

They need to move Kemba to reset their cap for a third man. The sooner the better

[bucknersrevenge]

Right on, but funny thing about that is that I wasn't wrong on the other stuff that I was supposed to do a mea culpa for. Soft tanking would have gotten us Embiid over Smart at the least, and IT was in fact not a building block and was better suited to a 6th man role due to his total lack of defense and the fact his small body was not going to hold up to his style of play.

On Jaylen, I never thought he was terrible, just thought he was slightly overpaid and did not see him as a top 25 player. He actually might be top 15 right now. Bravo.

Now that it seems they have a legitimate number one and number two, they just need to find a way to get some more talent around them. The Kings and Grizzlies picks not working out really screwed things up.

They need to move Kemba to reset their cap for a third man. The sooner the better

Who even wants or needs a PG like Kemba right now?? Maybe the Knicks? But who else? I just don't see a market for Kemba even if Danny wanted to move him which certainly he does not. This is not me disagreeing with your post in any way btw.

[Homerclease]

Now that it seems they have a legitimate number one and number two, they just need to find a way to get some more talent around them. The Kings and Grizzlies picks not working out really screwed things up.

They need to move Kemba to reset their cap for a third man. The sooner the better

Who even wants or needs a PG like Kemba right now?? Maybe the Knicks? But who else? I just don't see a market for Kemba even if Danny wanted to move him which certainly he does not. This is not me disagreeing with your post in any way btw.

Dallas maybe? Kemba needs to play well the rest of this year and build some confidence back up in the market on that knee and then we need to jettison him before it gives out for good