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2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#861 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:00 am

I called this about a week ago. Great shooter, Mormon. LOL, Do you think Ainge doesn't have him on the radar?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#862 » by TheMartian » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:03 am

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TheMartian wrote:Anybody have more info on Sam Merrill? I'm kind of intrigued after he was projected as our pick at #47 in the mock draft below. Kid is touted as the most polished shooter in this draft, has good size at 6'5 205 lbs for a guard, has great court vision with a 2.5/1 assist to turnover ratio, with the biggest knock on him being a poor PnR defender but otherwise a decent man defender.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-mock-draft-lamelo-ball-jumps-up-to-no-1-selection-by-the-timberwolves-in-first-two-round-mock/

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Here's his scouting video.



I'm at least hoping this kid is on our scouting team's radar.

I believe we have zoomed him not a bad get with 47 is up against yurtseven and players that drop. That being said he isnt going to there at 47 he is on several teams radar.


I would actually prefer him as our pick at #30, if we haven't drafted a guard yet at #14 and #26.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#863 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:03 am

I think they will consider Merrill with pick #30. He's a great shooter and a Mormon. Cerebral player and an adequate defender.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#864 » by TheMartian » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:05 am

Curmudgeon wrote:I think they will consider Merrill with pick #30. He's a great shooter and a Mormon. Cerebral player and an adequate defender.


Yes please. I hope we get this kid.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#865 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 am

captain green wrote:If we trade up expect it to be for haliburton his name is circled along with Reed at the moment according to my dude only 2 circled and one name underlined twice and that name is Isaac

Does your guy say how likely it is that we trade up? Thanks
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#866 » by 31to6 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:10 am

Y’all just have that Duncan Robinson hangover now..

But sure toss the 6’5” Keith Van Horn in with our other guard prospects
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#867 » by captain green » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:15 am

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captain green wrote:If we trade up expect it to be for haliburton his name is circled along with Reed at the moment according to my dude only 2 circled and one name underlined twice and that name is Isaac

Does your guy say how likely it is that we trade up? Thanks

It's talked about quite a bit but no % is necessary mentioned but they have multiple options.
The way I read the texts and pics is absolutely on the cards for a move up. I also think the underlined name is a meeting coming or trying to schedule as it quite out of place on the board on the names listed make me think it's a schedule board rather than a bigboard. But my dude is only involved for tech and video not in the Intel or analyst stuff.
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Post#868 » by threrf23 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:50 am

I must say that Okoro looks impressive in highlights. Based on stats, scouting reports, and highlights...I think Vince Carter is a good comp? idk, not my top choice, but I would trust Danny if we traded up for him.

I wouldn't trade up for Haliburton, he wouldn't even appeal much to me at 14.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#869 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:56 am

captain green wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
captain green wrote:If we trade up expect it to be for haliburton his name is circled along with Reed at the moment according to my dude only 2 circled and one name underlined twice and that name is Isaac

Does your guy say how likely it is that we trade up? Thanks

It's talked about quite a bit but no % is necessary mentioned but they have multiple options.
The way I read the texts and pics is absolutely on the cards for a move up. I also think the underlined name is a meeting coming or trying to schedule as it quite out of place on the board on the names listed make me think it's a schedule board rather than a bigboard. But my dude is only involved for tech and video not in the Intel or analyst stuff.

That's man, appreciate the info!
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#870 » by Spin Move » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:22 am

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captain green wrote:
TheMartian wrote:Anybody have more info on Sam Merrill? I'm kind of intrigued after he was projected as our pick at #47 in the mock draft below. Kid is touted as the most polished shooter in this draft, has good size at 6'5 205 lbs for a guard, has great court vision with a 2.5/1 assist to turnover ratio, with the biggest knock on him being a poor PnR defender but otherwise a decent man defender.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-mock-draft-lamelo-ball-jumps-up-to-no-1-selection-by-the-timberwolves-in-first-two-round-mock/

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Here's his scouting video.



I'm at least hoping this kid is on our scouting team's radar.

I believe we have zoomed him not a bad get with 47 is up against yurtseven and players that drop. That being said he isnt going to there at 47 he is on several teams radar.


I would actually prefer him as our pick at #30, if we haven't drafted a guard yet at #14 and #26.


No friggen way, if he is there at 47 or as an undrafted free agent, sure
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Post#871 » by themoneyteam2 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:42 am

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2020/10/17/kentucky-guard-immanuel-quickley-has-met-twice-with-3-nba-teams-poised-to-surprise-in-nba-draft/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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Celtics have recently met with Quickley. SEC player of the year and a lights out shooter. Best shooter of any PG in the draft. Surprised he isn’t being talked about more.

Here are some quotes from Calipari:

“ Jamal Murray did not play but about 15 percent point guard (at Kentucky),” Calipari said earlier this year. “I would say Immanuel played 5-8 percent point guard because the other two guys in front of him were better in pick-and-rolls and creating shots for their teammates. They weren’t a shot-creator like he was. So, the team used that strength and exploited that in him.”

Caliipari also compared him to Miami Heat guard Tyler Herro, another breakout Kentucky star in the playoffs, and Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.

“ Like some of our other guys that have gone on and done special things, like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Tyler Herro, he absolutely works his tail off. He takes his conditioning seriously, has unbelievable discipline, unwavering faith, confidence and spent just about all of his extra time in that gym.

“His reward: SEC Player of the Year, as voted on by the coaches. I’ve been in this league for 11 years and only had that happen three other times. Think about that with some of the kids we’ve had go through here”
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#872 » by TheMartian » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:50 am

Spin Move wrote:
TheMartian wrote:
captain green wrote:I believe we have zoomed him not a bad get with 47 is up against yurtseven and players that drop. That being said he isnt going to there at 47 he is on several teams radar.


I would actually prefer him as our pick at #30, if we haven't drafted a guard yet at #14 and #26.


No friggen way, if he is there at 47 or as an undrafted free agent, sure


I just think he fills a need and will not be a project. I understand the apprehension of drafting him that high though, since he is already 24, but somebody is going to take a flier on him if he's available in the 2nd round.

Best case scenario for us is he is still there at 47 or goes undrafted, in which case we can just sign him post draft, although i would imagine it will be a 1st come, 1st served basis with him if that happens.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#873 » by themoneyteam2 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:57 am

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Schmitz thinks Maxey will surprise everyone. Calls him a bucket and similar to Spida coming out of college as a 6’3” combo guard with low field goal percentages but dominating in workouts and everyone raves about his work ethic and character.

Then says Halliburton has fewest weaknesses in his game and arguably best player in this draft. Saw him in Vegas working out individually and 3 on 3 and 5 on 5 and he was lights out. Coaches, players, and rival agents had nothing bad to say about him.

I want either of these guys in Boston!
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#874 » by big-shot-ROB » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:53 am

Josh Green is redundant. Our 2-3 is Tatum and Brown. You don't draft and develop 3D guys, you sign them.
Not really on board with all the Haliburton buzz. I guess would have to buy in the hype if we draft him.

My quick top board for Boston would look like:

K. Hayes
Maxey
S. Bey
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P. Williams
Wiseman
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Maledon
Quickley
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#875 » by Squigglepuffin » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:09 pm

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threrf23 wrote:Is Deni Avidja the prospect he is getting credit for? When I read about him, he sounds a lot like Omri Casspi. Physically, I think he is slightly bigger than Casspi at the same age, and slightly smaller than Saric. Statistically, he looks a lot like Omri Casspi at the same age (and against the same competition), but seems to be a better passer and at least a slightly better rebounder. Saric was a better rebounder and scorer and FT shooter, but otherwise comparable as well.


Deni will most likely bust massively as he is underperforming all previous similar players.
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Post#876 » by Squigglepuffin » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:27 pm

threrf23 wrote:
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He is his own player, has his own game, but the story of his career regarding the draft is just going to be similar to players like Draymond Green, Khris Middleton, Pascal Siakam, etc... but even if he doesn't get to their level (and to be clear I'm saying he can end up a borderline all-star) he has at worst imo a floor of Marcus Smart - he's a top seven prospect in this draft and has no reason to last past the top 10 picks.


Is he in the draft?

A quick glance at his stats and scouting capsules and I agree he is likely slept on. Though on paper he seems more DeAnthony Melton than Marcus Smart.


He is in the draft. Somehow ESPN have him ranked at #63 on their big board.

The idea that there are 62 better players in this draft than Nate Hinton is ridiculous. I'll even stretch it out to 13 players better than him to give ESPN the benefit of the doubt... but 62???

Watch either the Spurs, Thunder, Warriors, Hawks, Raptors, Heat, or Clippers draft him. I say that because these teams are better at identifying talent than a lot of others.

There was a video where he was doing pushups on the court after getting fouled and I started having flashbacks of KG and Rondo. Even as a role player how could any team not want a guy who competes that hard, and is imo a guard version of Robert Covington, or a Marcus Smart who has less assist numbers but higher rebounding numbers and if put in the right situation will become a better player and outperform his own individual talent if surrounded by the right players ala Draymond Green but unlikely to that extent.

Imo he'll be a steal for whichever team drafts him.

Also Killian Hayes is the best player in this draft and will become at the very least a three time all star and that's being modest, but again it seems almost no one else realizes it.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#877 » by 31to6 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:28 pm

threrf23 wrote:I must say that Okoro looks impressive in highlights. Based on stats, scouting reports, and highlights...I think Vince Carter is a good comp? idk, not my top choice, but I would trust Danny if we traded up for him.

I wouldn't trade up for Haliburton, he wouldn't even appeal much to me at 14.


His highlights look like a slightly less explosive Jaylen Brown prospect. That would be a “flood the wings” strategy that I would struggle to understand. When captain green said we had “Isaac” on the board double underlined I figured he meant the oft (and currently) injured guy in ORL:)
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#878 » by Squigglepuffin » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:49 pm

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Schmitz thinks Maxey will surprise everyone. Calls him a bucket and similar to Spida coming out of college as a 6’3” combo guard with low field goal percentages but dominating in workouts and everyone raves about his work ethic and character.

Then says Halliburton has fewest weaknesses in his game and arguably best player in this draft. Saw him in Vegas working out individually and 3 on 3 and 5 on 5 and he was lights out. Coaches, players, and rival agents had nothing bad to say about him.

I want either of these guys in Boston!


Someone feel free to correct me but wasn't Schmitz the same guy who ranked Skal Labisiere #1 over Ben Simmons for the season leading up to the 2016 draft?

I saw Skal back then and even before college just looked like a more athletic Tyler Zeller. Maxey is a poor, poor man's Donovan Mitchell and isn't worth a 1st rounder imo - but that's just me.
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Post#880 » by JHTruth » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:52 pm

    Curmudgeon wrote:I think they will consider Merrill with pick #30. He's a great shooter and a Mormon. Cerebral player and an adequate defender.


    You think Danny drafts guys just because they're Mormon? Has he ever drafted another Mormon?

    Just another 2nd round prospect. Feels like the late firsts are headed somewhere else?

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